Speaker Stands - lead shot - sand or

dee1949
dee1949 Posts: 1,425
edited October 2009 in The Clubhouse
...Has anybody tried using pennies to fill speaker stands. I have thousands of pennies laying around. See any downside?
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited October 2009
    I use shot, nice and tight.
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  • Jim Shearer
    Jim Shearer Posts: 369
    edited October 2009
    Pennies might work, but the poor packing concerns me.

    I don't like the idea of lead shot, since lead is toxic if ingested--and the little pieces could easily escape to be eaten by pets or children. Iron shot would be fine.

    Dry, sterile sand and kitty litter both offer good packing and damping.

    Cheers, Jim
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  • dee1949
    dee1949 Posts: 1,425
    edited October 2009
    ...But I have coolers filled with pennies laying around.....need to find a use for them.... 20 year supply
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited October 2009
    Cash the pennies in :)

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited October 2009
    Lead shot, there is no substitute.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2009
    Cash the pennies in to buy lead shot or sand.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • dee1949
    dee1949 Posts: 1,425
    edited October 2009
    ...wow....there is a product for every need....what does that stuff cost?
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  • Fireman32
    Fireman32 Posts: 4,845
    edited October 2009
    dee1949 wrote: »
    ...But I have coolers filled with pennies laying around.....need to find a use for them.... 20 year supply

    Thats alot of money. All those pennies add up
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,508
    edited October 2009
    dee1949 wrote: »
    ...wow....there is a product for every need....what does that stuff cost?

    $46.99...per quart. I'll stay with lead shot.

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited October 2009
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    $46.99...per quart. I'll stay with lead shot.

    Yeah, really.

    25 lbs. of lead shot....

    http://www.precisionreloading.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=PRE&Category_Code=LEAD_SHOT_BB9


    However, these materials absorb dynamics and micro-dynamics when used with audio and acoustical equipment. They literally soak up and destroy the energies that make the musical presentation exhilarating.

    I have not found that to be the case.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2009
    Lead shot.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited October 2009
    Lead shot, which size?

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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited October 2009
    I use No 8. I found a retired couple locally that used to load their own. They had a basement full of this stuff. They charged me $8 per bag (25 lb).
    Michael ;)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2009
    #8 as well...$10/bag.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited October 2009
    Thanks I seen a lot of lead shot for #8, so it most be the one. :)

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    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
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    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited October 2009
    I've used #5 and #7. This stuff is so small I don't think it really matters.
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  • zeppage2
    zeppage2 Posts: 196
    edited October 2009
    I found the lead shot to be prohibitively expensive. I use play sand from the local Home Depot.
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  • dee1949
    dee1949 Posts: 1,425
    edited October 2009
    ..what is the property in lead that makes it good for audio. Is it because it is soft ...absorption of sound , or at least less transmission.

    I have these stands w/ Snell type E/III's....how much shot would I need?

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OONBZ8/ref=asc_df_B000OONBZ8946638?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=googlecom09c9-20&linkCode=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B000OONBZ8
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2009
    1,000,000 lbs.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Barefoot
    Barefoot Posts: 149
    edited October 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    Lead shot, there is no substitute.

    ^^^^
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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited October 2009
    A $3 bag of sand from Home Depot works great for me.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited October 2009
    I am still going naked and dont use anything.

    RT1
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited October 2009
    Cash in the pennies, buy the cement and sand bags, mix together with water, use a funnel, pour down the throat, and let it dry.

    No lead shots or pennies. Lead is very environmental unfriendly! Difficult to dispose properly.
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited October 2009
    megasat16 wrote: »
    Lead is very environmental unfriendly! Difficult to dispose properly.


    That's easy make bullets :)

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    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
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    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited October 2009
    I always use silver bullets since Lead bullets are very environmental unfriendly. :D
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited October 2009
    It has been my thought that the material you fill stands with is supposed to help by turning vibration into heat. Is that correct? And, if so, it has to move to make the heat, correct? So it would be better to use lead shot rather than melt the lead and pour it in?
    madmax
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited October 2009
    Like sealing joints in old cast iron pipes :) Cool you first.

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    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2009
    megasat16 wrote: »
    Cash in the pennies, buy the cement and sand bags, mix together with water, use a funnel, pour down the throat, and let it dry.

    No lead shots or pennies. Lead is very environmental unfriendly! Difficult to dispose properly.


    Who's disposing of it? I just put it back in the bag.
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited October 2009
    You are disposing of it. You paid for these lead bags, don't you?
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2009
    Disposing of it to me means throwing it away, as in garbage and I'm not.....I actually reuse it or recycle it for other projects. Did you forget your meds today?
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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