tests and info on speaker wire

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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited October 2009
    Sure many of us are biased. A lot of us have tried different gear and equiptment. You are an asshat with nothing to bring to the table. Get bent:) Those who know know. Those that don't don't know they don't. Bye bye.
    Ben
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  • lbristow
    lbristow Posts: 131
    edited October 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Sure many of us are biased. A lot of us have tried different gear and equiptment. You are an asshat with nothing to bring to the table. Get bent:) Those who know know. Those that don't don't know they don't. Bye bye.
    Ben

    well, i guess that is the purpose, to read the outcome of different test on these products without spending a million dollars doing so. never said i was bringing anything to the table, but that would be what the link is for. oh well, you can not argue with stupidity, but i expected a little more from you ben:( this is not a forum, it is a group that you must agree with or else they ostracize you and act like children. good lord guy's, most of you have been out of high school for some time, act like it:D i think you guy's should make a list of the equipment you must have in order to be part of the gang so you do not have a thread like this again. then i will be sure to run out and get it, just to make you happy. to hell with reading up on it a little first.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited October 2009
    You are a tard. Reading tells you nothing about what you hear. Don't agree. I don't think anyone cares. You are a tiny spec in the internet world. What I think, you think matters none. Bottom line is trust your ears.
    Bye
    Bye

    Edit: Please very short and straight to the point what is the purpose of starting this thread, and what are your findings based on?
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  • lbristow
    lbristow Posts: 131
    edited October 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    You are a tard. Reading tells you nothing about what you hear. Don't agree. I don't think anyone cares. You are a tiny spec in the internet world. What I think, you think matters none. Bottom line is trust your ears.
    Bye
    Bye

    i agree with trusting your ears, would like to have a idea where to start. there are only 5 million types out there. if i read bad reviews that is probably not where i would start. this is common sense. glad to see you are trying to impress your forum bud's there ben. give it a rest. If you would do this you might be able to buy a car instead of having it up on blocks for a week trying to fix it;) like i said, it is just a link, if people are up in arms about it then take a xanax and get over it. the point of the thread is just info on cable that may be of interest to some. that is it. like i said, there a 5 million types out there and this may give me or someone else a idea where to start in looking for the right pair. again, never said i had any findings as this is what the purpose of the link is for. did not know that was such a big deal.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited October 2009
    I obviously don't care about going against the grain here. You have what 96 post here with next to nothing to share, and how many troll post here?
    Thanks so much for sharing nothing but a useless link.
    Thanks much.
    Ben
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  • lbristow
    lbristow Posts: 131
    edited October 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    I obviously don't care about going against the grain here. You have what 96 post here with next to nothing to share, and how many troll post here?
    Thanks so much for sharing nothing but a useless link.
    Thanks much.
    Ben

    well ben, a lot of us do not mess with audio equipment all day and night, so we rely on info from sites like that to have a idea where we might begin. do audioquest wires sound better than what i have:confused: they might, but after reading the review i would not spend the money to find out. if someone had a pair i could try and see for myself then i would do so, then make a decision. but i guess this is a problem, not sure why, but it is. ok, so if i buy them and they suck, and i read that they did but still bought them anyway, then quite simply i am a fool. i guess the difference is this is a hobby for you, and you enjoy tinkering with things, which is fine. i just want to know what i am getting before i get it. i have no use for ten pair of speaker wires. having said that, since you do know a lot about this stuff and said you liked them, then i would be more willing to try them for that reason. but if i did not know the person then it would not mean a whole lot. so if you do not like the link then don't look at it, unless the groupies tell you to, then you must:D
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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited October 2009
    lbristow wrote: »
    well ben, a lot of us do not mess with audio equipment all day and night, so we rely on info from sites like that to have a idea where we might begin. do audioquest wires sound better than what i have:confused: they might, but after reading the review i would not spend the money to find out. if someone had a pair i could try and see for myself then i would do so, then make a decision. but i guess this is a problem, not sure why, but it is. ok, so if i buy them and they suck, and i read that they did but still bought them anyway, then quite simply i am a fool. i guess the difference is this is a hobby for you, and you enjoy tinkering with things, which is fine. i just want to know what i am getting before i get it. i have no use for ten pair of speaker wires. having said that, since you do know a lot about this stuff and said you liked them, then i would be more willing to try them for that reason. but if i did not know the person then it would not mean a whole lot. so if you do not like the link then don't look at it, unless the groupies tell you to, then you must:D

    Even used cables coming from Audioquest like you mentioned don't cost an arm and a leg, I mean heck it's alot less than going out for a meal with the significant other (imo).

    And there was a demo going on for a pair of AQ Type 4's for people to try out that run "rat shack" cables and the sort. If you can't even cough up 40 bucks though, or even 50-60 (if you need a good length) then what the hell are you doing here anyway?

    Edit: Forgot to add though, if you did spend said amount of money for a pair of used cables....the great thing is you can sell them for the same amount you paid. Hmmm, so I would think that's a win win situation no?
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  • lbristow
    lbristow Posts: 131
    edited October 2009
    kawizx9r wrote: »
    Even used cables coming from Audioquest like you mentioned don't cost an arm and a leg, I mean heck it's alot less than going out for a meal with the significant other (imo).

    And there was a demo going on for a pair of AQ Type 4's for people to try out that run "rat shack" cables and the sort. If you can't even cough up 40 bucks though, or even 50-60 (if you need a good length) then what the hell are you doing here anyway?

    don't consider that to be a lot of money. this is the point, some would argue that these suck because the do not cost a thousand dollars:) it is not really about spending a little money, it is about getting what you pay for and not just hype. i would think anyone would spend a hundred bucks for great speaker wire. if i read a review about them and it said they sucked, then i probably would not just go out and buy them though. i am not the one running these test, i am not saying all expensive wire sucks, just passing on a link i found interesting.
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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited October 2009
    lbristow wrote: »
    don't consider that to be a lot of money. this is the point, some would argue that these suck because the do not cost a thousand dollars:) it is not really about spending a little money, it is about getting what you pay for and not just hype. i would think anyone would spend a hundred bucks for great speaker wire. if i read a review about them and it said they sucked, then i probably would not just go out and buy them though. i am not the one running these test, i am not saying all expensive wire sucks, just passing on a link i found interesting.

    You've been very repetitive in all your posts thus far :confused:

    Anyway we get the point, you're not talking about 50-100 dollar cables....you're aiming at the big boy 1k-2k+ cables right? I personally wouldn't spend that much and I've got many reasons why I wouldn't.....but it's not because I don't think I'd hear at least a subtle difference. Why would you put $10k rims on a $10k car?

    There were a few reviews on this forum talking about MIT shotguns and up, you can check out what others have heard and base your decision off that. Isn't that what you're doing now anyway? Coming to the conclusion that you shouldn't buy these cables because someone else said they don't hear a difference?
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  • lbristow
    lbristow Posts: 131
    edited October 2009
    that is even better than the first:D
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,816
    edited October 2009
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  • lbristow
    lbristow Posts: 131
    edited October 2009
    kawizx9r wrote: »
    You've been very repetitive in all your posts thus far :confused:

    Anyway we get the point, you're not talking about 50-100 dollar cables....you're aiming at the big boy 1k-2k+ cables right? I personally wouldn't spend that much and I've got many reasons why I wouldn't.....but it's not because I don't think I'd hear at least a subtle difference. Why would you put $10k rims on a $10k car?

    There were a few reviews on this forum talking about MIT shotguns and up, you can check out what others have heard and base your decision off that. Isn't that what you're doing now anyway? Coming to the conclusion that you shouldn't buy these cables because someone else said they don't hear a difference?

    i guess i am repetitive because all of the responses have been nothing but sad. yes, i am just looking at different reviews to help in making a decision, did not know that was such a problem. and then posted a link to some of that info. then the morons decided to come to lunch. yes, i would be much more willing to buy a certain wire if most everyone said they made a difference. up to a point that is. i am with you, i would not spend 1k on speaker wire. :)
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    F1nut Posts: 50,816
    edited October 2009
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    edited October 2009
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    edited October 2009
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  • lbristow
    lbristow Posts: 131
    edited October 2009
    good night all, wonderful discussion with most of you tonight. most of you have made me embarrassed to say i even own polk audio speakers.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,020
    edited October 2009
    Discussion of what ? You have been asked repeatedly to list the cables you have personally listened to and all you do is repeat your crap,direct people to audioholics,and insult members who have had more gear than you can stuff in your 5700 sq. foot house.
    Do us all a favor,sell your polk speakers and go back to bose so you can lurk around over there.
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  • CoolJazz
    CoolJazz Posts: 570
    edited October 2009
    lbristow wrote: »
    i am in the medical industry, you would be amazed how people think something is better, but it is not. generic over name brand drugs for example. they will argue all day about name brand being better. it is the same thing of course. ..... all in the mind.
    That's funny! My Doctor sat with me just last week telling me how the generics are different and that the results do differ!

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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited October 2009
    Its my money, I can blow it any way I want. The thing I hate is people that think it is their mission in life to educate me on how cables are all the same.

    I really need to figure out the bozo list thing.

    If I was in the medical field and lived in a MacMansion I would have better stuff to do.:rolleyes:
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited October 2009
    OP, i still can't figure out what the purpose of this thread is, or why you insist on just repeating yourself time and time again, while dodging the questions that are asked of you.

    If high end wire doesn't make a difference to your ear, then don't buy it. It's that simple.

    For your reading pleasure, here's the most recent time that we've been down this road.

    Read this thread, and once you get through it all, THEN post back. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmkay?

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80453&highlight=spearker

    Welcome to my ignore list.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • lbristow
    lbristow Posts: 131
    edited October 2009
    it amazes me that people are still saying that they can not figure out the purpose of the thread. then i have other ladies saying i am just repeating myself. which is it morons:confused: i have never seen a bigger group of **** in my life. should rename the forum crybaby for nut jobs into audio. amazing that a simple thread leads to complete and utter stupidity. sad part about this is you guy's are serious about this. you can all get into you daily circle jerk and settle down. what a bunch of pathetic loosers.:D
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited October 2009
    Enlighten us. What was the purpose of this thread?
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited October 2009
    I let my wallet, and ears, and common sense make my determinations in what audio gear I get.

    I don't give a rats behind what anyone else has, or is willing to spend on THEIR systems.

    You rightfully claim that you were attacked with the first thread, However, you promply followed said "morons" into the gutter with your vulgar attacks, which NO but you started & things degraded from there. So you just put yourself right into the moronic, immature catagory that you labeled everyone else with. Welcome to the club.

    My common sense tells me you are really just trying to cause trouble around here since you already see that most on here believe differently than you. But instead of accepting that and letting it go, you just keep trying to stir the pot more.

    One more Moron going on the ignore list.
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  • lbristow
    lbristow Posts: 131
    edited October 2009
    actually, this is for my thesis in psychology. we are studying human behavior and i needed to come up with a way to study a group. i must say this worked. better than going to the library.:D it is a shame that some of these traits seem to be ingrained into the human species. thanks guy's, sorry for fckn with you:D
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,354
    edited October 2009
    The amazing thing is this guy is not banned after yesterdays BS. i guess it is OK to call everybody here c*#ts.




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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited October 2009
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2009
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    The amazing thing is this guy is not banned after yesterdays BS. i guess it is OK to call everybody here c*#ts.




    This message is hidden because lbristow is on your DUMBASS list.

    He was given an infraction and the thread was removed, stop whining. That and most of you end up doing the same thing over and over again as well. Unbelievable.
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