Room treatments

concealer404
concealer404 Posts: 7,440
edited November 2009 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
Where do you all buy your room treatments? I'm in desperate need of some, but i also don't really have the budget to drop a ton of money on them, either.

I probably need 4 decent size panels to start. Pretty patterns or colors for optimum SOAF is a plus. :p
I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited October 2009
    Build them!
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited October 2009
    I bought my OC 705 from these guys http://www.spi-co.com/directory.html

    Local to you is

    Insulation/Architectural
    5230 Park Emerson Drive Suite O
    Indianapolis, IN
    USA

    Wife made the covers. Made L bracket for bottom and loop near the top in the back for one of those fish hook looking hooks you push in the wall.

    See my setup for pics.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited October 2009
    I'm ordering some panels from these guys in a few days.

    http://www.atsacoustics.com/
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited October 2009
    Room treatments are so under rated. Look into first reflection, and then behind you.

    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited October 2009
    vc69 wrote: »
    I'm ordering some panels from these guys in a few days.

    http://www.atsacoustics.com/

    Those are nice but for 1 2'x4' 2" you could buy 3 from the site above. If you or your SO is handy with a sewing machine you can make your own to match your decor.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited October 2009
    thsmith wrote: »
    I bought my OC 705 from these guys http://www.spi-co.com/directory.html

    Local to you is

    Insulation/Architectural
    5230 Park Emerson Drive Suite O
    Indianapolis, IN
    USA

    Wife made the covers. Made L bracket for bottom and loop near the top in the back for one of those fish hook looking hooks you push in the wall.

    See my setup for pics.

    Hrmmm.... What did she use for the covers?

    I may give them a call, that's right down the road from me.

    Thanks!
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited October 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Room treatments are so under rated. Look into first reflection, and then behind you.

    Ben

    No doubt. After some dinking around I did last weekend, I am convinced that the 6 panels I am buying (about $300) will be the most significant upgrade to my system I can make.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited October 2009
    thsmith wrote: »
    Those are nice but for 1 2'x4' 2" you could buy 3 from the site above. If you or your SO is handy with a sewing machine you can make your own to match your decor.

    My current SO is a danger to herself and others with regard to sharp objects, etc. :o

    Thanks for the pointer though, I'm going to take a look at their offerings.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • Zeros
    Zeros Posts: 940
    edited October 2009
    concealer404 wrote: »
    Hrmmm.... What did she use for the covers?

    I may give them a call, that's right down the road from me.

    Thanks!

    Take a look at this thread on AVS about making panels:

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=487747

    Most people cover them in GOM (Gilford of Maine) fabric.
    My Basement / Home Theater Room
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited October 2009
    concealer404 wrote: »
    Hrmmm.... What did she use for the covers?

    I may give them a call, that's right down the road from me.

    Thanks!

    Fabric from Hancocks. Just make sure you can easily blow threw the fabric. You do not want anything heavy like burlap.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited October 2009
    thsmith wrote: »
    Fabric from Hancocks. Just make sure you can easily blow threw the fabric. You do not want anything heavy like burlap.

    I'll probably want a total of four 2x4 panels. I apologize for asking dumb questions, but i can't call them until tomorrow, stuck at work at the moment.

    How much did yours end up costing and how many/what sizes did you do?


    This idea has been in the back of my head for awhile, but after Nik's visit on Saturday, i realized just how bad this room sounds. It's AWFUL, and neither of us could believe that my system even sounded as good as it does in this room.

    Sooo... room treatments > DAC at the moment. :)
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited October 2009
    The Owens Corning 703s were about $10 and the 705s were about $12 from what I remember. I used 705 2"x2'x4'

    I used 5 panels. I could use more but I have a huge fireplace that is basically a wall and I was not allowed to treat it.

    It did help.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited October 2009
    Oh nice! Looks like i can easily do this for a good chunk under $100 when all is said and done, and this way i can actually put them together in the apartment without making a mess. :)

    Thank you sir!
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • CoolJazz
    CoolJazz Posts: 570
    edited October 2009
    Owens Corning 705 is about as good as it gets for absorbing! Standing it off from the wall does increase it's effectiveness...as in going lower. The best treatment is for it to be very broad and not all centered at one narrow frequency band.

    I built using 2" 705 in 2' X 4' frames that I stood off another 2" from the wall. I found them to be very effective! I put the first pair a little to the side from in line behind the speakers (dipolar). Then centered the next one on the front wall...which seems to have a great impact. Then I put the next pair on the side walls. Then the last one (I've got made so far) directly behind the listening position.

    It is some of the best money you can spend!! Good luck!

    CoolJazz
    A so called science type proudly says... "I do realize that I would fool myself all the time, about listening conclusions and many other observations, if I did listen before buying. That’s why I don’t, I bought all of my current gear based on technical parameters alone, such as specs and measurements."

    More amazing Internet Science Pink Panther wisdom..."My DAC has since been upgraded from Mark Levinson to Topping."
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited October 2009
    I was planning on putting one behind each main, probably slightly towards the inside of both of them, and then two right up next to each other, essentially making a 4x4 behind the listening position.

    I only have one side wall, and it's unfortunately a sliding glass door, so i can't do much about that. :(
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited October 2009
    concealer404 wrote: »
    Oh nice! Looks like i can easily do this for a good chunk under $100 when all is said and done, and this way i can actually put them together in the apartment without making a mess. :)

    Thank you sir!

    The covers are a little tricky. I used plastic corner trim cut to fit the width for the corners. MY wife tried a zipper across the top but ultimately machine sewed 3 sides, slip the panel in and hand sewed the top. Mine sit 1" from the wall but as someone said more is better.

    Used hot glue to hold the corners on. You could try it without it but I was afraid the insulation would break down on the corners fitting it into the the bag.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited October 2009
    thsmith wrote: »
    The covers are a little tricky. I used plastic corner trim cut to fit the width for the corners. MY wife tried a zipper across the top but ultimately machine sewed 3 sides, slip the panel in and hand sewed the top. Mine sit 1" from the wall but as someone said more is better.

    Used hot glue to hold the corners on. You could try it without it but I was afraid the insulation would break down on the corners fitting it into the the bag.

    Hrmmm... i'm having a hard time visualizing this. I think i'll pop down there this weekend and get the panels ordered, and then i'll probably bug you from there, if that's alright with you?
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited October 2009
    concealer404 wrote: »
    Hrmmm... i'm having a hard time visualizing this. I think i'll pop down there this weekend and get the panels ordered, and then i'll probably bug you from there, if that's alright with you?

    No problem. Here is a tutorial

    http://www.readyacoustics.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=40&chapter=0

    Go to Bagging your traps
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • RJMELKON
    RJMELKON Posts: 37
    edited October 2009
    room treatments are goo
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  • RJMELKON
    RJMELKON Posts: 37
    edited October 2009
    they are very good
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  • RJMELKON
    RJMELKON Posts: 37
    edited October 2009
    so very good really
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  • RJMELKON
    RJMELKON Posts: 37
    edited October 2009
    sometimes it can be good
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  • RJMELKON
    RJMELKON Posts: 37
    edited October 2009
    but not so much goo
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited October 2009
    Wonder what is going to be offered FS ^^^
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • RJMELKON
    RJMELKON Posts: 37
    edited October 2009
    sorry guys trying to get post count up so i can post an ad for my lsi's.I will move on
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited October 2009
    Bad form. Been watching you spam up threads all morning.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • TouchOfEvil
    TouchOfEvil Posts: 967
    edited October 2009
    I really need to get some treatments but i have been told NO lol.
    Living Room Rig:D
    Rotel RSP-1069/Rotel RMB-1095/Rotel-1072/Polk lsI15's W/modded xoverW/DBsubs/Polk LsiC/lsI7's/Klipsch sub-12"the weak link"/DLP Mitsubishi 65"
    Xbox360/PS3/WII
    M.Br. setup:)
    Emotiva MMC-1/Rotel RMB-1075/Polk BlackStone TL350's/Velodyne SPL1000/Samsung 51" Plasma
    Computer Rig:
    Rotel RB1050/Tannoy DC4's/Klipsch RW-10d/ImodIpod/HK AVR230 for now....
    Headphones-Ultrasone-HFI780's w/LittleDot MK Vamp Portables Panasonic HJE-900's
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  • hockeyboy
    hockeyboy Posts: 1,428
    edited October 2009
    I started with a pair of them from ATS. I have no energy to build my own anything. I got the fire proof ones, and have since added several more pairs over the last couple of years. I have ten in my theater which is great with no big expense at any given time. The biggest impact was when I put them where the wall meets the ceiling. Highly recommended and ATS is a good value if you don't want to DIY.
    My Main Gear
    Mitsu HC5000 (Proj.)
    Marantz SR8001 (AVR)
    Sunfire TGA7200 (AMP)
    Marantz DV7001 (SACD)
    Samsung BD-P1500 Blu-Ray
    LSi 15's (Front)
    LSiC (Center)
    LSiFx (Surrounds)
    DUAL SVS 20-39 CS Plus     (Passive Subs)
    Marantz IS201 I-Pod Dock[/SIZE]
    Panamax M5300EX
    Carada Criterion 106" Brightwhite Screen
    Sunfire TGA 5200 & (4) B&W 605's in the party room
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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited October 2009
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65330


    Best room and system I ever had..
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65567





    Nik
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited October 2009
    nikolas812 wrote: »
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65330


    Best room and system I ever had..
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65567





    Nik


    Yep, i checked your threads out... but that level of DIY isn't really possible in my apartment setting. :(
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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