More BS from the NFL

F1nut
F1nut Posts: 50,654
edited October 2009 in The Clubhouse
Ripped from the headlines........
The National Football League has fined Baltimore Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis $25,000 for a hit on Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Chad Ochocinco on Sunday, ignoring Ochocinco's request that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell spare Lewis a fine.

The hit happened when Ochocinco was running a pattern over the middle, and it sent Ochocinco's helmet flying and drew a 15-yard penalty, helping the Bengals get into position for their game-winning touchdown in a 17-14 victory. After the game, Ochocinco posted a direct request to Goodell on Twitter, saying there was no harm done and he didn't want to see Lewis lose money.

Goodell, however, didn't listen: ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported on Friday that Lewis's next paycheck will be $25,000 lighter. The Baltimore Sun notes that the fine represents 42.5 percent of Lewis' $58,823 weekly salary.

And while Ochocinco might not like it, this was obviously the right call: Lewis clearly led with his helmet and drilled a defenseless receiver in the chops. That's a textbook personal foul, and it's a play that gets players fined every week.

Pretty soon we'll be watching flag football. :rolleyes:
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  • 66chevyIISS
    66chevyIISS Posts: 857
    edited October 2009
    Yeah it does suck! Totally agree. The NFL will soon be 2 hand touch after they define flag pulling too agressive.

    I'd like to discuss another NFL problem I have, but will refrain since it will only go 1 direction.
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited October 2009
    They're just setting everything up for women in the NFL.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    edited October 2009
    Gotta agree here. Funny thing is,with all the added B.S. about Rush Limbaugh,the diversity police will soon pay a visit to the NFL. Those dopes who run the NFL sure know how to blow a good thing when they have it. Because of Brady,you have to knock a QB over with your breath now.....pitifull I tell ya.
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  • BlueFox
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    edited October 2009
    At least it is not as whimpy as NASCAR and restrictor plates.
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  • Rodeo0530
    Rodeo0530 Posts: 797
    edited October 2009
    I don't mind...it helped the Bengals win. Seriously though, I think it's a good thing to protect the players to a point. The "Brady" rule has become a joke in protecting the NFL money, I mean quarterbacks. That pass was way over Chad's head and Lewis was definitely leading with his helmet, which is a penalty. With all the new research about concussions and how it effects people later in life, this is something that needs to be done. I know they make a lot of money, but they live much shorter lives on average in comparison to the rest of the population.


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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited October 2009
    Rodeo0530 wrote: »
    I don't mind...it helped the Bengals win. Seriously though, I think it's a good thing to protect the players to a point. The "Brady" rule has become a joke in protecting the NFL money, I mean quarterbacks. That pass was way over Chad's head and Lewis was definitely leading with his helmet, which is a penalty. With all the new research about concussions and how it effects people later in life, this is something that needs to be done. I know they make a lot of money, but they live much shorter lives on average in comparison to the rest of the population.


    "Repeated concussions brought on by blows to the head during their playing days significantly boost the chances that retired professional football players will suffer dementias such as mild cognitive impairment in later life, a new study suggests."

    http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/concussions_promote_dementia_in_retired_football_players_9059
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited October 2009
    At least he didn't stab anyone. Let's be thankful for small miracles.

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  • Rodeo0530
    Rodeo0530 Posts: 797
    edited October 2009
    ^^Nice!!^^


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  • 66chevyIISS
    66chevyIISS Posts: 857
    edited October 2009
    Lasareath wrote: »
    What's the NFL?

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited October 2009
    That pass was way over Chad's head and Lewis was definitely leading with his helmet, which is a penalty.

    You probably shouldn't watch football.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,447
    edited October 2009
    Enjoy football while you can. Soon it will be deemed to violent for television and the health care czar will determine that due to the higher than normal injury rate, the sport should be banned.
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited October 2009
    Enjoy football while you can. Soon it will be deemed to violent for television and the health care czar will determine that due to the higher than normal injury rate, the sport should be banned.


    Doubt it, too much money to be made.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,447
    edited October 2009
    I was being sarcastic, but there is the possibility that they will force the players to whear those inflatable sumo wrestler suits for added protection.;)
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  • superjunior
    superjunior Posts: 1,632
    edited October 2009
    BlueFox wrote: »
    At least it is not as whimpy as NASCAR and restrictor plates.

    on some tracks restrictor plates keep the cars on the track and not in the stands. Its more about safety for the fans. I've been to a lot of races including restrictor plate races, they're anything but whimpy..
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    Vette C6.r Posts: 1,560
    edited October 2009
    "At least it is not as whimpy as NASCAR and restrictor plates"


    That is funny stuff. There is a crazy rumor they might come out of the 50's and use fuel injection soon. What a joke.
  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited October 2009
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    Doubt it, too much money to be made.

    Agreed, its all about the Money!
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  • Rodeo0530
    Rodeo0530 Posts: 797
    edited October 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    You probably shouldn't watch football.

    I disagree with you here. I understand that they've sissified the game quite a bit, but the rules are the rules. I don't see the need to have a guy getting blown apart in that situation if it's an unnecessary hit. The ball was clearly over him and well past him by the time that Ray lead with his helmet. I wish they would take away some of the rules against hitting these guys, but this is one that should, and will, stay in effect.


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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited October 2009
    The NFL is close to going the way of the NBA for me. I was a HUGE NBA fan growing up and followed it closely all the way through the Bird and Magic years and with mild interest in the early MJ years. Now I don't even watch the playoffs.

    I've enjoyed the NFL as a casual fan for as long as I can remember...but I rarely watch anymore as it just doesn't interest me. All professional team sports have become too much about the so-called stars, too much "just entertainment" and not enough about the competition. People like Mark Gastineau and Billy "white shoes" Johnson were the beinging of the downturn with the "sack dance" and "touchdown dance" IMO.

    As to Jesse's OP...I expect OSHA would love to get it's hand on the NFL. They would would make sure professional football was a "safe" career....:rolleyes:
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited October 2009
    I watched the game and saw that play - head first, cheap shot - foul was rightly called.

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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited October 2009
    Gotta agree with Erik, it was a blatant head shot even it was Ocho Cinco. Lewis launched himself head first upward into Ocho. The intent was to dangerously blow somebody up. The same effect on the play would have happened with Lewis' shoulder into Cinco's upper chest. I'm just surprised the players weren't looking for Ocho Cinco's gold teeth on the ground.

    I say this having been around long enough to remember Jack Tatum's hit on Daryll Stingley back in the 1970's and the tragic quadroplegic life Stingley lived until his passing.
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited October 2009
    It may have been different had Lewis gone for a body shot to go thru Ocho.

    But no - he targeted Ocho's head, led with his own - maybe if he had his eyes up he could have changed his trajectory and target - but no - head lowered, eyes lowered for the 'bang' hit.

    I love a deep cleat hit or block or the clean pancake tackle, but there's cheap shots that should be enforced with prejudice to send a clear message that purposed shots to the head are not tolerated.

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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited October 2009
    Enjoy football while you can. Soon it will be deemed to violent for television and the health care czar will determine that due to the higher than normal injury rate, the sport should be banned.


    Nothing new…….
    “The situation came to an end in 1905 when there were 19 fatalities nationwide. Theodore Roosevelt threatened to shut the game down if drastic changes were not made.”
    While I do not care for the wimpifying of many sports, if it was a flagrant violation the rules need to be enforced (I did not see the play). If it was a bad call, it wasn’t the first and won’t be the last.

    While not all players fit into this mold, I have given up on most pro sports because of the prima donna attitudes so many share.
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited October 2009
    on some tracks restrictor plates keep the cars on the track and not in the stands. Its more about safety for the fans.

    While fan safety is important, along with driver safety, slowing the cars down is not the correct approach. I am sure there are other ways to keep the cars out of the stands. That is what the roof flaps accomplish. A minor mod so that if a car gets sideways or tail first then the aerodynamics are interrupted and keep the car on the ground. Other aero mods are certainly possible. That's why we have wind tunnels.

    Racing, in my mind, is building the fastest car possible, and having it last 'x' miles. Period. If a team wants to strap rockets onto the car, and can insure other cars will not be incinerated, then they should be able to do that. It would be nice to hear a spotter say, "Go with throttle up." :rolleyes:
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  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,068
    edited October 2009
    Enjoy football while you can. Soon it will be deemed to violent for television and the health care czar will determine that due to the higher than normal injury rate, the sport should be banned.

    The players will have to pay such high taxes, (I mean insurance premiums) under Obamacare that it will no longer be a lucrative career for athletes to get into.....:eek:;)
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited October 2009
    Eff the NFL, I want to see old style fighting to the death with clubs and feeding the looser to the lions...
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited October 2009
    madmax wrote: »
    Eff the NFL, I want to see old style fighting to the death with clubs and feeding the looser to the lions...
    madmax


    Don't you mean you want to see "Thunderdome" ??? ;)

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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,059
    edited October 2009
    Demiurge wrote: »
    At least he didn't stab anyone. Let's be thankful for small miracles.

    Child please.

    True, I don't understand the double standard where drug-addicts cannot own an NFL team, but murderers are allowed to play in the NFL.

    With that said, the NFL is still the strongest pro-sport vs. baseball, hocket, basketball. and dodgeball.
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited October 2009
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    Don't you mean you want to see "Thunderdome" ??? ;)

    Yeah, that would be fine too. :)
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,447
    edited October 2009
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    Don't you mean you want to see "Thunderdome" ??? ;)
    I could go for murderers an rapists appearing on "The Running Man!":D
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,047
    edited October 2009
    I agree that the NFL has become more "wussified". That Tom Brady penalty a couple weeks ago (against the Ravens) was an absolute joke and helped them win the game. Howeve, the hit that Lewis layed on Ochocinco was a definite cheap shot and something that could have caused very serious injury. Ochoconco's blessings or not, the next guy might not be so lucky. You can call it risk of the sport or whatever, but that was a blatant cheap shot and a disregard of the rules.
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