Official Definitive Mythos ST / 10 5.2 speaker package review.
What's up all?
I finished my demo listening tonight. I had what felt like a long road of playing/ breaking in but I feel they are about as good as they are going to get and if they get any better , good for me.
System in review.
Fronts Mythos ST
Center Mythos 10
Rears Mythos 10
Sub Mythos ST internal sub
Sub Dynaudio Sub 500.
Receiver Pioneer ELite Sc-07.
DVD / CD / SACD / DVD AUDIO player Pioneer ELite dv58av wired in HDMI
powercord is a Audioquest NRG-3
Blu Ray Playstation 3 wired in HDMI
Cable is Comcast HD wire in HDMI
Game system is a Xbox 360 / Playstation 3.(removed Wii)
Power Panamax M5500ex wired with Kimber PK10 powercord.
Speakerwire is DH Labs Silver Sonic 14-2 ( is will be replaced with Kimber Kable 4tc)
Sub cables are Audioquest ITA 1.1 Custom built by me so Audioquest Mantis series.
Rear speaker wire is Audioquest 14-2
Center is Audioquest 14-2 ( will be replaced with Kimber 4tc)
Movies.
I will go on record right off the bat and say this is the most awesome impact dynamic theater system I have ever owned. Even before I Installed the Dynaudio sub500, the system is kinda scary in a good way.
Example: My son and I watch Resident Evil on DVD and everytime something jumped , we jumped. We both watched this movie a few times n the past and kinda know it. But the dynamic range of this system will put a fear in your spine. I love this about it.
Voice is natural and very tone rich. What I mean is male voice sounds real. It's like someone is talking in the room. It doesn't sound like it comes from the center channel. It sound like it's coming right out of the screen. Some speakers have a "speaker"sound" and you can tell it's being recreated. This Mythos 10 center channel has a extremely clear and deep "Airy" if you will ability. It's bigger then it's cabinet. I think the curved design does something for the way it sounds. The roundness about it I think comes into play. Something went right when they designed it.
Effects jump out into the room. You feel like your being assaulted. You feel like bullets are being fired off in your room and hitting things. Ok killer rears man, the Mythos 10 is a unbelievable rear. It really fills the room with sound, pressure and authority. It lets you know it's got it's job handled. It asked for more and more. Push it and it pushes you. Like a big bully or something. I feel these rears act like mono / bipolar speakers. They are a mono design but they are huge sounding. Having the center and rears being the same exact speaker powered by the same exact amp power is uncanny. I believe I have found Synergy in it's deepest meaning. I can't be any happier here.
Front performance. Well what can I say that I already didn't. They ST's just blend in with everything the 10's do. They stand there ground, pound there chest ( and mine) and do there job. They roll right in and fill the front of my room with a landscape. A city block , a country side , deep space or whatever you are watching.
As a system this system is perfect for me and everything I wanted and more. I have not laughed at my system in a very long time. It's a laughter that you get when you are very pleased with what you are experiencing. It's what I have always wanted and didn't know I did. I have alway s gone after the perfect music first type system that did movies as well(with in my budget of course). I have had some very good gear speakers wire and what have you. I always found that I wanted more. Today I can sit here and tell each and every one of you I have reached my goal. My theater experience is top notch. It's a system if you would have asked me a year ago if I would own , I would tell you to fly a kite. I never thought I would go back to a receiver and of all speakers own Definitive Technology. I heard them many times in the past( BP series ) and thought they where nice but not for me. Man it's nice to grow up and allow an experience judge your decesion then the names on the gear. It's a wonderful experience.
MUSIC.
This is something I have been nervous about ever sine I took my long loved and still loved/missed Dynaudio Audience 82's. These where my babies. A year ago if you asked me to sell them , fly a kite would have been the answer. I considered it a few times as I knew my theater experience was not what I wanted. They where so clear and detailed but lacked the sheer force and dynamic range I required that I didn't know I required but knew something was always missing. I would Install other systems and have to go home to see if my system sounded that good.
The Mythos system I have I use for cd / sacd and dvd audio as well as Ipod. I think cable music sucks balls and sounds like **** so I don't "listen" to it. If I was cleaning the house , working out in the garage and had the house on ,sure cable music is fine. When I want to sit down and enjoy a piece of music , I need the best quality I can get.
2 channel performance.
The ST's are skinny towers with built in subs. I had RT1000p's and told myself back then I would never again have powered towers. I hated the time and effort that had to go into them to get them to perform that way I wanted/expected. but What I noticed about the ST's is there uncanny ability to sound like a full range passive speaker. You have to blend the subs in for 2 channel just right. This is something I learned with experience over the last week and would be glad to share my craft.
I listen to Loreena McKennitt a lot. I have all of her cd's. It's a voice and mood I often need to clear my mind and soul. I'm a angry person by environment I guess. My life has been good to me for the most part but I have had some ruff times growing up and in my adulthood. She has a way of calming the beast with in and when my system is on , she can reach me on a very deep level. I hear her voice and it .... ok you get the idea. The Mythos ST's for music are wonderful. They are very different sounding then my Dynes. I had to get over they are gone and there is a new kid on the block. I'm one who loves/hates change. I like structure and guide lines. I feel sad and a bit lost when things change even if it's for the better. I can't go on record and say the Mythos ST's are a better musical speaker , I don't believe that.If anything they are different. Some things I like very much but others I like my Dynes more.
Rock music. I find the ST's to be able to play rock music very well. I can jam with them and dig every riff. The Kick drums thunder out of the built in subs and sound like kick drums and not a one hit wonder crappy theater junk trash sub. They are actually pretty musical when tuned right. I'm pretty impressed here.
Jazz. I have mixed feeling here. Some of my cd's sound pretty damn good but lack something. I have not been able to place my finger on it. It's like the emotional connection to the mood is disconnected. I don't know if they are doing something wrong or I'm looking for something else. Not sure what to say other then I like my Dynes better here.
Classical. Huge big deep sounds. I have SACD cuts on a sampler I got years ago when SACD first came out. It has some really good cuts on it and the ST's are way up for the challenge. I'm not a big fan of classical but I find it fascinating at times to listen 2.Stravinsky doesn't make my top ten list but finds his way into my SACD collection. I'd rather listen to Jerry Goldsmith and movie cuts like Star Trek the motion Picture or Air force one. All on SACD.
Music overall I'd say most people will find the ST's exceptional for a theater skinny powered tower. You could put them up against most 4 thousand dollar speakers and below and feel very good about the results.
I did however enjoy listening to Norah Jones sacd "come away with me". It started out as a demo secession and turned into a entire album secession. Thats when I know I enjoy a speaker when I can sit there and start out in demo mode and end up in comfort mode. When I feel myself living in the moment , I know I have something I enjoy. When I sit there wanting more or just stay in demo mode, I know I need to move on.
This will be one of many reports of my finding of the Mythos series speakers. So far so good. As a double duty speaker , I think these are the ones. They are good enough with music that I can live with them with no regrets but the theater performance is just off the effing hook. I'm so damn happy.
I could get into gaming performance but I think I made my point. If you can get a proper demo of the Mythos series speakers I think you might find something special. It's like finding a gem where you didn't expect it. I love that about them. You know you go around and read the reviews and think to yourself " how the hell are these Definitive Technology speakers getting such high marks across the board in all the reviews. No other speakers made has better reviews. NONE. And now I know why they score so well. The cost to performance is uncanny.
In the Old Home Theater review fashion I give them an overall score of 96 out of 100. I think they don't have enough weakness to flaw them much. No speaker is perfect unless you have the Dynaudio C4's and even then you have to pay out your **** and nose and maybe your mouth to get them. Then there is the rest of the system that is required to power them and get them to achieve such incredible sound. The Mythos series does what it does with receivers. I personally think the SC-07 is the very best sounding under 2200.00 receiver on the market and can sound as good as some separates. Those ICE amps are amazing. And mixing them with Mythos is truly my dream come true.
I finished my demo listening tonight. I had what felt like a long road of playing/ breaking in but I feel they are about as good as they are going to get and if they get any better , good for me.
System in review.
Fronts Mythos ST
Center Mythos 10
Rears Mythos 10
Sub Mythos ST internal sub
Sub Dynaudio Sub 500.
Receiver Pioneer ELite Sc-07.
DVD / CD / SACD / DVD AUDIO player Pioneer ELite dv58av wired in HDMI
powercord is a Audioquest NRG-3
Blu Ray Playstation 3 wired in HDMI
Cable is Comcast HD wire in HDMI
Game system is a Xbox 360 / Playstation 3.(removed Wii)
Power Panamax M5500ex wired with Kimber PK10 powercord.
Speakerwire is DH Labs Silver Sonic 14-2 ( is will be replaced with Kimber Kable 4tc)
Sub cables are Audioquest ITA 1.1 Custom built by me so Audioquest Mantis series.
Rear speaker wire is Audioquest 14-2
Center is Audioquest 14-2 ( will be replaced with Kimber 4tc)
Movies.
I will go on record right off the bat and say this is the most awesome impact dynamic theater system I have ever owned. Even before I Installed the Dynaudio sub500, the system is kinda scary in a good way.
Example: My son and I watch Resident Evil on DVD and everytime something jumped , we jumped. We both watched this movie a few times n the past and kinda know it. But the dynamic range of this system will put a fear in your spine. I love this about it.
Voice is natural and very tone rich. What I mean is male voice sounds real. It's like someone is talking in the room. It doesn't sound like it comes from the center channel. It sound like it's coming right out of the screen. Some speakers have a "speaker"sound" and you can tell it's being recreated. This Mythos 10 center channel has a extremely clear and deep "Airy" if you will ability. It's bigger then it's cabinet. I think the curved design does something for the way it sounds. The roundness about it I think comes into play. Something went right when they designed it.
Effects jump out into the room. You feel like your being assaulted. You feel like bullets are being fired off in your room and hitting things. Ok killer rears man, the Mythos 10 is a unbelievable rear. It really fills the room with sound, pressure and authority. It lets you know it's got it's job handled. It asked for more and more. Push it and it pushes you. Like a big bully or something. I feel these rears act like mono / bipolar speakers. They are a mono design but they are huge sounding. Having the center and rears being the same exact speaker powered by the same exact amp power is uncanny. I believe I have found Synergy in it's deepest meaning. I can't be any happier here.
Front performance. Well what can I say that I already didn't. They ST's just blend in with everything the 10's do. They stand there ground, pound there chest ( and mine) and do there job. They roll right in and fill the front of my room with a landscape. A city block , a country side , deep space or whatever you are watching.
As a system this system is perfect for me and everything I wanted and more. I have not laughed at my system in a very long time. It's a laughter that you get when you are very pleased with what you are experiencing. It's what I have always wanted and didn't know I did. I have alway s gone after the perfect music first type system that did movies as well(with in my budget of course). I have had some very good gear speakers wire and what have you. I always found that I wanted more. Today I can sit here and tell each and every one of you I have reached my goal. My theater experience is top notch. It's a system if you would have asked me a year ago if I would own , I would tell you to fly a kite. I never thought I would go back to a receiver and of all speakers own Definitive Technology. I heard them many times in the past( BP series ) and thought they where nice but not for me. Man it's nice to grow up and allow an experience judge your decesion then the names on the gear. It's a wonderful experience.
MUSIC.
This is something I have been nervous about ever sine I took my long loved and still loved/missed Dynaudio Audience 82's. These where my babies. A year ago if you asked me to sell them , fly a kite would have been the answer. I considered it a few times as I knew my theater experience was not what I wanted. They where so clear and detailed but lacked the sheer force and dynamic range I required that I didn't know I required but knew something was always missing. I would Install other systems and have to go home to see if my system sounded that good.
The Mythos system I have I use for cd / sacd and dvd audio as well as Ipod. I think cable music sucks balls and sounds like **** so I don't "listen" to it. If I was cleaning the house , working out in the garage and had the house on ,sure cable music is fine. When I want to sit down and enjoy a piece of music , I need the best quality I can get.
2 channel performance.
The ST's are skinny towers with built in subs. I had RT1000p's and told myself back then I would never again have powered towers. I hated the time and effort that had to go into them to get them to perform that way I wanted/expected. but What I noticed about the ST's is there uncanny ability to sound like a full range passive speaker. You have to blend the subs in for 2 channel just right. This is something I learned with experience over the last week and would be glad to share my craft.
I listen to Loreena McKennitt a lot. I have all of her cd's. It's a voice and mood I often need to clear my mind and soul. I'm a angry person by environment I guess. My life has been good to me for the most part but I have had some ruff times growing up and in my adulthood. She has a way of calming the beast with in and when my system is on , she can reach me on a very deep level. I hear her voice and it .... ok you get the idea. The Mythos ST's for music are wonderful. They are very different sounding then my Dynes. I had to get over they are gone and there is a new kid on the block. I'm one who loves/hates change. I like structure and guide lines. I feel sad and a bit lost when things change even if it's for the better. I can't go on record and say the Mythos ST's are a better musical speaker , I don't believe that.If anything they are different. Some things I like very much but others I like my Dynes more.
Rock music. I find the ST's to be able to play rock music very well. I can jam with them and dig every riff. The Kick drums thunder out of the built in subs and sound like kick drums and not a one hit wonder crappy theater junk trash sub. They are actually pretty musical when tuned right. I'm pretty impressed here.
Jazz. I have mixed feeling here. Some of my cd's sound pretty damn good but lack something. I have not been able to place my finger on it. It's like the emotional connection to the mood is disconnected. I don't know if they are doing something wrong or I'm looking for something else. Not sure what to say other then I like my Dynes better here.
Classical. Huge big deep sounds. I have SACD cuts on a sampler I got years ago when SACD first came out. It has some really good cuts on it and the ST's are way up for the challenge. I'm not a big fan of classical but I find it fascinating at times to listen 2.Stravinsky doesn't make my top ten list but finds his way into my SACD collection. I'd rather listen to Jerry Goldsmith and movie cuts like Star Trek the motion Picture or Air force one. All on SACD.
Music overall I'd say most people will find the ST's exceptional for a theater skinny powered tower. You could put them up against most 4 thousand dollar speakers and below and feel very good about the results.
I did however enjoy listening to Norah Jones sacd "come away with me". It started out as a demo secession and turned into a entire album secession. Thats when I know I enjoy a speaker when I can sit there and start out in demo mode and end up in comfort mode. When I feel myself living in the moment , I know I have something I enjoy. When I sit there wanting more or just stay in demo mode, I know I need to move on.
This will be one of many reports of my finding of the Mythos series speakers. So far so good. As a double duty speaker , I think these are the ones. They are good enough with music that I can live with them with no regrets but the theater performance is just off the effing hook. I'm so damn happy.
I could get into gaming performance but I think I made my point. If you can get a proper demo of the Mythos series speakers I think you might find something special. It's like finding a gem where you didn't expect it. I love that about them. You know you go around and read the reviews and think to yourself " how the hell are these Definitive Technology speakers getting such high marks across the board in all the reviews. No other speakers made has better reviews. NONE. And now I know why they score so well. The cost to performance is uncanny.
In the Old Home Theater review fashion I give them an overall score of 96 out of 100. I think they don't have enough weakness to flaw them much. No speaker is perfect unless you have the Dynaudio C4's and even then you have to pay out your **** and nose and maybe your mouth to get them. Then there is the rest of the system that is required to power them and get them to achieve such incredible sound. The Mythos series does what it does with receivers. I personally think the SC-07 is the very best sounding under 2200.00 receiver on the market and can sound as good as some separates. Those ICE amps are amazing. And mixing them with Mythos is truly my dream come true.
Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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On a side note.
I have been thinking all day about tweaks. Better quality power cords , going back to Kimber Kable for both speaker and line level. Just finding those little things that might make a difference. let the fun start again.
Gotta love it.Dan
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Dan,
Thanks for the information and it's great your loving your new speakers. Music sure can smooth things over when you need some TLC. Keep up the good work and keep the faith. -
The specs for the Mythos ST said it'll go down to 14 HZ and at what output. Have you done any measurement to validate this? If true, then this is really good..i.e, without the need for a subwoofer. Most subwoofers on the market go down to about 16 HZ only.
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Thank you for all of your time with this mantis. I am so happy for you.
To me, there is nothing quite like owning an audio system that really "moves you" and you've got that part covered very well my friend.
By chance are you closer to Pittsburgh or Philadelphia,mantis ? Just curious......
Anyways, take care of yourself and I wish you many many years of happy listening.
Sincerely, Bill(BB3)Sony 52in.XBR6
Sony 32in.XBR6
Anthem AVM50V
Anthem PRE-2L
Sonic Frontiers SFCD-1
Carver C-9
Carver C-19 PreAmp
Carver C-16 PreAmp
2-Carver Silver 7-T's
4-Carver TFM55's
2-Carver TFM35's
1-Carver TFM25
Carver 490T
Denon DCD1560
Sony BDP-S350
Sony PS3
Nintendo Wii
Panasonic DMK23DVR
Speakers :
PolkAudio SDA-SRS
PolkAudio SDA-SRS 1.2TL
PolkAudio SDA-CRS+(Compliments Of Mr. Jim Thomas"jtgranby")
PolkAudio RTA-15TL
PolkAudio M3
3-Velodyne F-1500's -
Dan, really a very awesome, and in-depth review! Wish i was a fly on the wall at your place for a listen, LOL.:D Glad your happy with the current setup, and thanks for providing some great info.
Pat.Receiver: Pioneer Elite SC-05
Amp: Emotiva Xpa-3
Front L/R: POLK Rti-a9s':D
Center:POLK Csi-a6
Rear surround's:POLK Rti-a1s'
Sub: Klipsch Synergy sub-12
Sony Kdl-46w4100 46" LCD
PS3
Audioquest type 4 wiring. -
The specs for the Mythos ST said it'll go down to 14 HZ and at what output. Have you done any measurement to validate this? If true, then this is really good..i.e, without the need for a subwoofer. Most subwoofers on the market go down to about 16 HZ only.
As far as the Mythos outputting at 14hz, well I don't buy it. They dig deep but I will find out exactly how deep when I test them.
Just so you know most subs can't even play 20hz my man, not many at all. I measure at 0db loss not -6 or -10. I find those numbers unusable.Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time. -
I live about 25 -30 minutes north of Philadelphia.Thank you for all of your time with this mantis. I am so happy for you.
To me, there is nothing quite like owning an audio system that really "moves you" and you've got that part covered very well my friend.
By chance are you closer to Pittsburgh or Philadelphia,mantis ? Just curious......
Anyways, take care of yourself and I wish you many many years of happy listening.
Sincerely, Bill(BB3)Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time. -
As far as the Mythos outputting at 14hz, well I don't buy it. They dig deep but I will find out exactly how deep when I test them.
Just so you know most subs can't even play 20hz my man, not many at all. I measure at 0db loss not -6 or -10. I find those numbers unusable.
That's why I was so surprised they spec it at 14HZ. I have a HSU VTF-3 MK2 and it goes down to 16HZ. If it's any where near the HSU, then it's almost too good to be true...meaning you don't need a subwoofer with the Mythos whatsoever.
Let us know when you have the numbers.
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In your first post, you mentioned you have the SC-07. That's the receiver I am thinking of getting. Do you know anything about the new SC-27 and what are the differences between them?
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The specs for the Mythos ST said it'll go down to 14 HZ and at what output. Have you done any measurement to validate this? If true, then this is really good..i.e, without the need for a subwoofer. Most subwoofers on the market go down to about 16 HZ only.
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/speakers/2358/test-bench-definitive-technology-mythos-st-loudspeakers.html
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In your first post, you mentioned you have the SC-07. That's the receiver I am thinking of getting. Do you know anything about the new SC-27 and what are the differences between them?
thanks
The new SC-27 now has an extra HDMI on the front panel, it also has a new iphone connection. I heard the new onscreen is better but I have not seen it myself.Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time. -
Great Review-ThanksLinn AV5140 fronts
Linn AV5120 Center
Linn AV5140 Rears
M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
Odyssey Mono-Blocs
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I'll give you 6 months Dan,before you go shopping for dynaudio's again.The Mythos are new,so the glamor is still there but in the end,I don't think they will satisfy you with music.I have owned every power tower Polk made,and can honestly say,for music,I wouldn't go the powered tower route again.If anything,I'd add a sub,you can dial it in better.In case you happen to rob a bank,I noticed a front end of Dynaudio Temptations,including the center,for sale here in chicago,for 25 g's. A steal. So you have my prediction,I could be wrong,but I don't think so. 6 months buddy boy,start counting.:DHT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
I'll give you 6 months Dan,before you go shopping for dynaudio's again.The Mythos are new,so the glamor is still there but in the end,I don't think they will satisfy you with music.I have owned every power tower Polk made,and can honestly say,for music,I wouldn't go the powered tower route again.If anything,I'd add a sub,you can dial it in better.In case you happen to rob a bank,I noticed a front end of Dynaudio Temptations,including the center,for sale here in chicago,for 25 g's. A steal. So you have my prediction,I could be wrong,but I don't think so. 6 months buddy boy,start counting.:D
I think what I gotta do is get my theater built in the basement( which I have been putting off for years) build my office/2 channel room. Then I can have a dedicated 2 channel listening instead of keep trying to do both with one system.
Thats a killer price and setup but a little out of my price range. I would like one day to own the Dynaudio C4's.Dan
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So, do tell us about this future two channel rig? I am interested as to what current speakers you would select for that?
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So, do tell us about this future two channel rig? I am interested as to what current speakers you would select for that?
There are several 2 channel speakers I would like to have.
1) Dynaudio C4's
2) Dynaudio Contour 1.8se's
3) B&W N801's
4) Totem Hawk
5) Totem Arrow
6) Vienna Acoustic Beethoven
As for a preamp/amp I would like to have a Mark Levinston #383 intergraded which I find to be Incredible.
Wire would be all Kimber Kable or Audioquest.
Source would be a Phono , CD , 2 channel SACD .
I would use power management by Richard Gray or Panamax.
There is so much good new and older models out there I love. One day I plan on building it.Dan
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Glad to see your happy with the switch to the DT Mythos series from the Danes. I was somewhat nervous reading your posts when you first proposed this.
For myself, I will continue to stay with Danes. I had a pair of C1's I purchased used and decided to "update" to a new pair. I had listened to other monitors but did not find any I preferred over the C1's. The new C1's are currently breaking in as I type.
The C4's (and all of the Confidence series) are a great speaker. The local dealer had a pair breaking in with the gloss Rosewood finish. A customer had ordered these along with Ayre KX-R and MX-R components. That was an nice experience.
Regards.
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nice review.
I'm surprised by how cheap the matching surround speakers are -- quite a lot cheaper than the LSiFX speakers. Would make a rather affordable surround setup (considering $4000 retail for the two mains)... even if you wanted a crazy 9.1 system with rears and height channels.My Iron Man training/charity blog.
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32" Sharp LCD. H/K dpr 1001 to Outlaw Audio 7900 to Polk LSi + Paradigm Studio center. Hsu DualDrive ULS-15. PS3/Wii. Outlaw 7900. -
nice review.
I'm surprised by how cheap the matching surround speakers are -- quite a lot cheaper than the LSiFX speakers. Would make a rather affordable surround setup (considering $4000 retail for the two mains)... even if you wanted a crazy 9.1 system with rears and height channels.
I wouldn't call the matching rears cheap. I have the 10's for rears and for the pair retail they cost 1799.99. Thats a nice chunk of change. I don't and will not use the Gem xl's. I firmly believe they are for for lower end Mythos speakers. I would not use them with the STS or the 1's, ok maybe the ones but I would rather have the 8's with the 1's and the 9's with the STS.
The Center channel is cool wall hang able and the exact speaker I have for surrounds but I would have liked a nicer option like one without the raidators that could fit inside a cabinet. The 10 has placement issues if it's not going to be hung. It's damn 34 1/2 inches in length. That kinda sucks for a lot of installs. My personal system I would have preferred it inside the cabinet on a shelf. If you took a saw and cut off the top part of the Mythos ST , that would be my Ideal center channel.
For sound quality there is nothing like having a perfectly timbre matched system. The 10 center and rears is the best I have ever heard in that department. My Dynes did that very well 2 which was amazing.I'm glad I didn't lose that synergy.Dan
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"I wouldn't call the matching rears cheap."
Ah, I was referring to the Mythos Gems -- those are pretty cheap.My Iron Man training/charity blog.
HT:
32" Sharp LCD. H/K dpr 1001 to Outlaw Audio 7900 to Polk LSi + Paradigm Studio center. Hsu DualDrive ULS-15. PS3/Wii. Outlaw 7900. -
"I wouldn't call the matching rears cheap."
Ah, I was referring to the Mythos Gems -- those are pretty cheap.
Gotcha but they are very good sounding speakers. I think they do very well for surround speakers.Dan
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Gotcha but they are very good sounding speakers. I think they do very well for surround speakers.
I can vouch for that.. :cool: I wud say they are inexpensive but not cheap
Living Room: 7.3: Samsung - LN52A750, Pioneer Elite SC07, logitech 880
Def Tech Mythos ST
Fronts, Def Tech Mythos 10 Center, Def Tech BP-30 Surr, Def Tech Mythos GemXL SurrBack, MartinLogan Dynamo
2Ch: Carver TL-3200 CD player, Carver CT-17 pre, Carver TFM-45 amp driving SDA-1C
Bed Room: Pioneer Elite VSX-52 , Monitor 50
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I can vouch for that.. :cool: I wud say they are inexpensive but not cheap
Nice system there how about a few pic's?Dan
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Thx Dan. I need to finish wiring, but its long over due. I'll post some pics this weekend..
Living Room: 7.3: Samsung - LN52A750, Pioneer Elite SC07, logitech 880
Def Tech Mythos ST Fronts, Def Tech Mythos 10 Center, Def Tech BP-30 Surr, Def Tech Mythos GemXL SurrBack, MartinLogan Dynamo
2Ch: Carver TL-3200 CD player, Carver CT-17 pre, Carver TFM-45 amp driving SDA-1C
Bed Room: Pioneer Elite VSX-52 , Monitor 50
Storage-RTi8,CSi5,PSW505,Monitor50 -
I've now owned these speakers for over a month and figured it's time to give a final review of them now that I got a full understanding of how they work, what they can do and can't. Without further ado.
Ok so I've purchased this home theater speaker package so I could go into another direction. But I'm so into music I can't help but test with music. Now that they are completely broken in , I think they are incredible. They hit with the most thunderous bass when a kick drum or bass guitar player gets busy. They reach down and play the beats and notes correctly. They sound kinda real doing so.
Human voice is pretty hard to reproduce correctly. The ST's have no problems here. I have played every single Female voice I own and I have yet to want more. Male voice is the same way. My recordings sound great and I can't be happier with a theater first speaker playing music.
Sacd is flat out kiler. I can't get over the synergy I have now using 3 Mythos 10's for Center and rears. This was a good choice. I talked to Def Tech tech's and they all think thats the way it should be sold. It's so damn good. I can't believe how well they play Sacd. Amazing. It's like living inside the speakers themselves. I feel as if there is no loss anywhere. Thats damn good as my room sucks. I have 14 foot ceilings and the room is mostly open in the back to my dinning room.
So basically to sum up music, they pass with flying colors. I think they would give my Dynes a run , I don't think however they would win out , I think the Dynes have the last word in definition and grace. But the height of these ST's are unreal. I can't believe how big of soundstage I get. I figured out the placement issues I was having early on when I first got them. I found a formula that seems to work well.
As far as theater sound goes, they destroy everything I have ever owned. The sheer impact is something that you find in much higher end systems. I have a receiver , yeah a receiver that powers these bad boys and It sounds like I have a 200 watt per channel amp running them. It's pretty sick. They dynamic range is the best I've heard anywhere even remotely close to this price point. Sick I gotta say SICK.
The sub section shocks me. There design is freaky and the actual driver size doesn't make any sense the amount of force and destruction I get in my family room. They shake the living hell out of my room yet play the most delicate note precisely. I'm now ready to test there extention and find out exaclty how deep and how loud they go. I plan on going by 5 db at a time and fully sweep the room. I want to know exaclty what I have and what I don't. But honestly I don't really care. They perform so well I don't know if the results are going to mean anything to me. But you know me I gotta test every damn thing. It's like I'm cursed to test everything. I maybe want to see someone about my addiction.
Anyway the top half of this speaker it would be nice if Def Tech made a stand alone version of it. Like a Mythos 11 or something. No passive radiators and a fully sealed design. I think thats where they get there tightness and speed from. The sealed inclosure. It works whatever the case maybe. I still would like a top half of the ST as a stand alone speaker. That would be cool.
So to end this short. I'm completely happy with my ST's. I think they have a home for a very long time. Or until the next speaker catches my eye/ear. Bad thing is we just became a TOTEM dealer. We have Hawks on the floor and i have listened to them a few times now and walked away with a huge smile on my face. TOTEM is one of those companies like Dynaudio that no matter what speaker you listen to , you could fall in love.Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time. -
I have now using 3 Mythos 10's for Center and rears. This was a good choice. I talked to Def Tech tech's and they all think thats the way it should be sold
I was also told by Def TEch tech's that the center CS-8060HD would work great with the ST. -
I was also told by Def TEch tech's that the center CS-8060HD would work great with the ST.
Yes, it'll work but it's not a perfect match. I'd just go with the Mythos 10. -
I was also told by Def TEch tech's that the center CS-8060HD would work great with the ST.
Is there a reason why you would not use the Mythos 10? I use 3 Mythos 10's in my system as one for center and the other 2 for rears. They perform exceptionally. As rears they really take command over that job. These are the best sounding rear channel speakers I have ever used for movies. They basically scare you when called upon.
The new 8060HD is a BP product but it's nice to know that if you need a different size or shape center channel , this will blend in nicely. I would have to listen to the ST's with this center VS the 10 if space and placement is a non issue.Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time. -
It's officialDodd - Battery Preamp
Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
Outlaw ICBM - crossover
Beringher BFD - sub eq
Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!
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Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
