New MIT Cables - Hey moron I got another thread for you to tag!

SolidSqual

Anybody know whether the new MIT 3rd generation cables offer better sound or just a cosmetic upgrade?

SolidSqual

http://www.mitcables.com/

SolidSqual

"Fans of the previous Shotgun interconnect will recognize similarities in this interconnect as a top performer. Available in single ended or balanced configurations, the S3.3 is the perfect mate for the Shotgun S3.3 Speaker Cable. With complimentary articulation plots, The S3.3 combination leaves little to the imagination by delivering all of the immediacy and impact of a live performance, while maintaining the finesse required for long listening sessions. 20 poles of articulation." http://www.mitcables.com/available-online/shotgun-s3.3-interconnect.html

Not sure, but it sounds like the same cable repackaged.

F1nut

The .3 models have more poles of articulation than the previous generation.


One day we will find out who the moron tagger is and when we do I have a feeling his life will take a turn for the worse.

SolidSqual

I'm waiting to hear back from Joe Abrams and MIT to confirm whether I need to buy Shotgun S3 speaker cables while they still exist or can wait and use the new S3.3 speaker cables.

SolidSqual

Zero wrote: »

I don't think you will find valuable feedback to your question Solid. Few people outside of MIT have heard these new cables.

For what its worth, MIT claims that the 3rd generation is a worthy successor to the 2nd generation. Then again, that does kinda read like a sales brochure doesn't it? I will likely bring in a full set in a couple of months to give them a whirl. There's no better way to find out something than to try it out for yourself!

Man, I can't wait to hear what you think. Have you heard a pair of Mac CuQ speaker cables? Want me to send a spare pair for comparison?

SolidSqual

F1nut wrote: »

The .3 models have more poles of articulation than the previous generation.


One day we will find out who the moron tagger is and when we do I have a feeling his life will take a turn for the worse.

I saw that, I wonder if the added articulation will result in any real difference?

F1nut

SolidSqual wrote: »

I'm waiting to hear back from Joe Abrams and MIT to confirm whether I need to buy Shotgun S3 speaker cables while they still exist or can wait and use the new S3.3 speaker cables.

Of course, you can wait and use the 3.3's. They will work just fine with the S3 interconnects.

SolidSqual

F1nut wrote: »

Of course, you can wait and use the 3.3's. They will work just fine with the S3 interconnects.

Ok, it just makes me nervous that these cables in particular are designed to be used together.

F1nut

It's recommended to use all the same model for the best results, but that doesn't mean an S3 interconnect will not work with a S3.3 speaker cable with good results.

SolidSqual

Zero wrote: »

Solid,

Do not quote me here, but I seem to recall one of the main heads at MIT telling me about a slightly new geometry, on top of the new additional poles. I'd imagine improvements are there. Whether or not it will cause those to ditch their current cables is a different story entirely.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure what kind of insight I'd be able to provide on the latest generation of MIT Shotguns. The last pair of Shotgun's I owned were circa 03/04 vintage, and are different from what is offered today in terms of voicing. That said, if the CVt's I have at the moment are any indication of where MIT is going - I'm all for it!

As for MAC cables. Nope.. cant say that I've ever heard a set. All I have on hand right now are a set of cables from Morrow Audio. I've jumped off the cable bandwagon for awhile.. mostly because all my attention and money is going towards speakers and electronics, but I digress..

How are those new Emerald's? You get em' yet ?

Cool, thanks for the input. The Emmys arrive on the 20th of this month. I get my new Salamander stands on the 17th. Can't WAIT! Trust me, I will post some pics ASAP.

SolidSqual

Oh and I will not quote you either. Your candor is much appreciated.

olilugo

Speaking of MIT speaker cables, what is the difference between say Shotgun S3 and S2?

Polkitup2

More points of articulation in the S2 versus the S3.

fbm211

I see the nonsense tagger got his tag.What a coward and just an all out A-HOLE.How about we name him the TAG-?AG

hearingimpared

Tag-hole.

olilugo

Polkitup2 wrote: »

More points of articulation in the S2 versus the S3.

Sorry I don't know what this means, can you add a bit more context? Thanks

madmax

MIT goes more for sound than flashy looks. I've heard them on many systems and its obvious, they are simply better sounding than most cables/wires. It they say the new line is better I'll believe them.
madmax

Polkitup2

olilugo wrote: »

Sorry I don't know what this means, can you add a bit more context? Thanks

Here's some info regarding articulation: http://www.mitcables.com/reference-library.html

F1nut

madmax wrote: »

MIT goes more for sound than flashy looks. I've heard them on many systems and its obvious, they are simply better sounding than most cables/wires. It they say the new line is better I'll believe them.
madmax

I couldn't agree more.

SolidSqual

F1nut wrote: »

I couldn't agree more.

Yeah, this seems to be the consensus among people with whom I've spoken. I just wish MIT would cut down on the marketing speak and use more plain talk instead. My "senile old man skepticism" kicks in when too many adjectives and undefined words appear in a sentence.

LessisNevermore

SolidSqual wrote: »

Yeah, this seems to be the consensus among people with whom I've spoken. I just wish MIT would cut down on the marketing speak and use more plain talk instead. My "senile old man skepticism" kicks in when too many adjectives and undefined words appear in a sentence.

You're treading dangerous waters here with that kind of talk...:p
I feel the same way, the link given does nothing to explain exactly wtf they actually do to the signal. On face value, it sounds like a fixed, passive eq. If anyone can clear this up, with more of an explanation, I'd be very grateful.

I do believe cables can make a difference, and I believe what MIT does, is based in science. I just wish they would offer a better breakdown for us non-EE's.

SolidSqual

LessisNevermore wrote: »

You're treading dangerous waters here with that kind of talk...:p
I feel the same way, the link given does nothing to explain exactly wtf they actually do to the signal. On face value, it sounds like a fixed, passive eq. If anyone can clear this up, with more of an explanation, I'd be very grateful.

I do believe cables can make a difference, and I believe what MIT does, is based in science. I just wish they would offer a better breakdown for us non-EE's.

No, I don't think so. Everyone here knows where I stand on cables, and most people here would choose a white paper over a marketing pamphlet any day of the week. If anything, I'm just pointing out that MIT is dabbling in the kind of marketing that has given Bose and Monster their notorious reputations. I think we can all agree we don't want MIT to go down that road; unfortunately, a degree of marketing hype is a prerequisite to doing good business.

madmax

SolidSqual wrote: »

No, I don't think so. Everyone here knows where I stand on cables, and most people here would choose a white paper over a marketing pamphlet any day of the week. If anything, I'm just pointing out that MIT is dabbling in the kind of marketing that has given Bose and Monster their notorious reputations. I think we can all agree we don't want MIT to go down that road; unfortunately, a degree of marketing hype is a prerequisite to doing good business.

I agree but you know sometimes when you are working on something new that you have to describe to people sometimes you have to make up your own vocabulary. I've worked on a few things that had characteristics which to describe properly we had to come up with a name for them.
madmax

olilugo

SolidSqual wrote: »

"Fans of the previous Shotgun interconnect will recognize similarities in this interconnect as a top performer. Available in single ended or balanced configurations, the S3.3 is the perfect mate for the Shotgun S3.3 Speaker Cable. With complimentary articulation plots, The S3.3 combination leaves little to the imagination by delivering all of the immediacy and impact of a live performance, while maintaining the finesse required for long listening sessions. 20 poles of articulation." http://www.mitcables.com/available-online/shotgun-s3.3-interconnect.html

Not sure, but it sounds like the same cable repackaged.

According to the link you provided it says 6 poles of articulation not 20.

olilugo

I wish I can order a set of MIT and tested them to see if it does anything on my system.
I keep on thinking man this is a lot of money to commit for a pair of cables which I don't know if it will work on my setup.

madmax

olilugo wrote: »

I wish I can order a set of MIT and tested them to see if it does anything on my system.
I keep on thinking man this is a lot of money to commit for a pair of cables which I don't know if it will work on my setup.

I've had many different MIT S1, S2 and S3 series. All were used, all were about half of list price and all re-sold for half of list price when I decided to try something new. So, they are pretty much free to try. (That is until you hear them and decide you cannot do without them )

madmax

F1nut

Tagger writes,

f1nut is a lozer

I dare you to say that to my face, you splineless putz.

kevhed72

I'm not sure I understand the purpose of the tags in the first place.
When you search a keyword, doesn't the search just look through all the threads / forums anyway? Adding a tag just seems to over-complicate the search function (unless I'm missing something)

F1nut

I think the tag feature is a good idea, unfortunately the feature has been abused by immature children. However, I do find it humerous that the folks abusing the tags are the ones that end up being the putz in everyone else's eyes. Can they say, backfire!?! Yeah, like that.

thsmith

F1nut wrote: »

Tagger writes,

I dare you to say that to my face, you splineless putz.

And they can't spell. No way are they man enough to be stand up. Just know they are punks and who cares what they write or think.