"High End" Receiver

tryrrthg
tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
edited August 2009 in Wanted (WTB) Classifieds
I am looking for a "high end" receiver from the likes of Rotel or Arcam. I would consider NAD or B&K also, but I'm not as familiar with those brands so I'd have to do some research.

Something like the Rotel RSX-1065 or 1067 would be ideal, but the 1055 or 1057 would probably work too.

Needs to have preouts. Not looking to break the bank either, but let me know what you've got. Thanks!
Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited August 2009
    What did you have in mind spending $$ ?
    also would you consider separate components.
  • okiepolkie
    okiepolkie Posts: 2,258
    edited August 2009
    It isn't on your list, but I would consider Primare as well: http://cgi.ebay.com/Primare-SPA-21-Surround-Sound-Receiver-Must-See_W0QQitemZ290337567278QQcmdZViewItemQQptZReceivers_Tuners?hash=item439977b22e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14(no affiliation)

    The SPA22, which replaced the 21, sells new for $5K, and sounds VERY good for the money. The 21 is very close in performance, and can found at reasonable prices at this point.
    Tschüss
    Zach
  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited August 2009
    jvc wrote: »
    What did you have in mind spending $$ ?
    also would you consider separate components.

    Not sure yet on the budget, just want to see what my options are before deciding...

    I have looked at a few seperates options. I'm open to them also but am leaning towards a receiver. depends on what I can find, and at what price. ;)
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited August 2009
    okiepolkie wrote: »
    It isn't on your list, but I would consider Primare as well: http://cgi.ebay.com/Primare-SPA-21-Surround-Sound-Receiver-Must-See_W0QQitemZ290337567278QQcmdZViewItemQQptZReceivers_Tuners?hash=item439977b22e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14(no affiliation)

    The SPA22, which replaced the 21, sells new for $5K, and sounds VERY good for the money. The 21 is very close in performance, and can found at reasonable prices at this point.

    That looks very nice! but probably more than I want to spend on a receiver...
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited August 2009
    Why don't you get something like a Onkyo or HK with pre outs? You'll be missing out on the new audio formats and such with an older unit. Or are you looking to replace the Arcam A85?
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • okiepolkie
    okiepolkie Posts: 2,258
    edited August 2009
    Face wrote: »
    Why don't you get something like a Onkyo or HK with pre outs? You'll be missing out on the new audio formats and such with an older unit. Or are you looking to replace the Arcam A85?

    Even a decent Denon, with pre-outs(the one in my signature is for sale :)) would work. I understand you are looking for "high end," which is why I suggested the Primare, but even at used prices, I'm not sure you are going to find a receiver current enough to be worth an upgrade.
    Tschüss
    Zach
  • dekuda
    dekuda Posts: 756
    edited August 2009
    Some nice demo Rotel surround sound avr and preamps here: :D
    http://www.spearitsound.com/specials.htm
    HT System
    Parasound Halo A51 Amp, Marantz AV 8003 Pre, Arcam FMJ CD36 cd player, Marantz 7007 BD/SACD player,Acoustic Zen Matrix IC's, Analysis Plus Crystal Copper Oval IC's, Acoustic Zen Satori speaker cables, B&W 703's Fronts, Center Martin Logan Motif hybrid, Surrounds DefTech BPX, 2 X DefTech Supercube Reference Subs, DSpeaker Antimode 8033 EQ.
  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited August 2009
    Face wrote: »
    Why don't you get something like a Onkyo or HK with pre outs? You'll be missing out on the new audio formats and such with an older unit. Or are you looking to replace the Arcam A85?

    I have a receiver with preouts. I'm looking to move everything I have now for more of a one box (less expensive) solution. My setup is too complicated for my life right now. I have an 18 month old son that keeps me too busy for a whole lot of music/movie use. I need something simple (yet still sounds good) until we move to a new house and I can get my man cave back.

    So I was hoping to find a decent receiver that will sound good for music, which is more background noise anymore, than sitting down and listening. I don’t need the latest and greatest receiver for the new formats because my blu-ray player has analog outputs for that stuff. I don’t use video switching on receivers since I like to have the option of watching TV with and without the receiver being on.

    basically I am chasing my tail like most audiophiles do. :D
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited August 2009
    I use an NAD T765 and I love it. It's good for music too.
  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,194
    edited August 2009
    I might be going in a new direction soon, and would consider selling my NAD T754 to help pay some pending veterinary bills. They are $650 brand new from Spearit Sound currently, so it would cost you considerably less than that. I bought mine brand new less than a year ago (not refurbished). It is in pristine condition, so I'd rate it 9/10. None of the buttons on the unit or the remote show any sign of use (I started using a universal Sony remote immediately).

    I have been very impressed with its performance. It does not have HDMI, but all analog video formats can be converted to component for 720p/1080i output. Huge power, despite the seemingly modest 70w/ch (x6) or 90w/ch (x2) rating. It also has interesting features, such as five custom presets, selectable from the remote, that allow you to adjust and memorize speaker size and crossover points, as well as subwoofer settings etc. Very useful if you like your subwoofer on for movies, but off, or adjusted differently for music, for example. The remote also includes a dedicated rocker button for each of sbuwoofer level, center channel level and surround level.

    It has handled my 82.5dB efficent, 3-6 ohm speakers flawlessly at reference levels. In fact, I'm so confident in its performance that I don't even bother to engage the proprietary soft clipping feature, but it's there if you want the added level of protection for your speakers.

    If I get another receiver at some point, it will certainly be a NAD also, with or without the HD audio formats.

    Let me know if you are interested!
    Alea jacta est!
  • ViperZ
    ViperZ Posts: 2,046
    edited August 2009
    Not very high-end, but Pioneer SC-07/SC-09, Onkyo 805/875/905/906, Denon 3808/4308/4310/5308 or comparable Marantz should fit the bill.
    Panasonic PT-AE4000U projector for movies
    Carada 106" Precision Series (Classic Cinema White)
    Denon AVR-X3600H pre/pro
    Outlaw 770 7-channel amplifier
    B&W CDM1-SE fronts
    B&W CDM-CNT center
    B&W CDM1 rears on MoPADs
    JBL SP8CII in-ceiling height speakers
    Samsung DTB-H260F OTA HDTV tuner
    DUAL NHT SubTwo subwoofers
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-Ray player
    Belkin PF60 Power Center
    Harmony 1100 RF remote with RF extender
    Sony XBR-X950G 55" 4K HDR Smart TV + PS3 in the living room
  • BrettT1
    BrettT1 Posts: 560
    edited August 2009
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited August 2009
    FWIW, I tried a big dollar receiver/pre pro and found it was lacking in two channel compared to a much cheaper dedicated two channel setup. I realize you're not doing much critical listening at the moment, but in the future you may regret selling off what you have now.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • AndyGwis
    AndyGwis Posts: 3,655
    edited August 2009
    I have a B&K AVR 507 S2 that I could part with. Hit me via PM to discuss.

    Oh, and no preouts needed with this receiver as most typical HT amps won't touch what this thing is already pushing in its powerful chassis.

    Okay, I am a little biased, like the receiver, but it's 150 REAL wpc. More into 4 ohms. Didn't break a sweat running 2 channel and/or 5 channel LSi Lineup.
    Stereo Rig: Hales Revelation 3, Musical Fidelity CD-Pre 24, Forte Model 3 amp, Lexicon RT-10 SACD, MMF-5 w/speedbox, Forte Model 2 Phono Pre, Cardas Crosslink, APC H15, URC MX-950, Lovan Stand
    Bedroom: Samsung HPR-4252, Toshiba HD-A2, HK 3480, Signal Cable, AQ speaker cable, Totem Dreamcatchers, SVS PB10-NSD, URC MX-850
  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited August 2009
    Face wrote: »
    FWIW, I tried a big dollar receiver/pre pro and found it was lacking in two channel compared to a much cheaper dedicated two channel setup. I realize you're not doing much critical listening at the moment, but in the future you may regret selling off what you have now.
    I will probably agree with you but right now I just don't want all the boxes. and in the future I wouldn't want what I have now ;) it's nice sounding but with more room it would not be my first choice.
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited August 2009
    AndyGwis wrote: »
    I have a B&K AVR 507 S2 that I could part with. Hit me via PM to discuss.

    Oh, and no preouts needed with this receiver as most typical HT amps won't touch what this thing is already pushing in its powerful chassis.

    Okay, I am a little biased, like the receiver, but it's 150 REAL wpc. More into 4 ohms. Didn't break a sweat running 2 channel and/or 5 channel LSi Lineup.
    It's probably more than I want to spend but hit me with a PM in what you are thinking for price. Thanks!
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,194
    edited August 2009
    I'm not sure if you wanted this to work as a dual HT & music system, but if you only need to power two speakers for music, perhaps you should consider the JoLida hybrid integrated units. They are very compact, and give the added advantage of letting you experiment with the tube pre-amp section.

    Even the 1301, rated at 30w/ch for the solid state amplification section, will probably surprise you with it's abilities, and they can be bought used for about $200 and up currently. The more powerful 1501 is at least $500 used AFIK, so that may not work out when compared to the used sale value of you current integrated. If interested, you could try my 1301 out for free if you like, to see if you like that option (just pay shipping costs & insurance). I'm guessing that you would not be sacrificing much, if any, sound quality when compared to the Arcam with this option. They will only drive 8 ohms, AFIK, however.

    http://www.jolida.com/catalogue/hybridamp.shtml

    Of course, that would be a non-starter if you also want this solution to work for surround sound HT, and in that case, I'll make the same offer for the NAD, if you want to try it: just pay shipping (but at 50lbs, that's not as easy a "free" trial as the JoLida would be).
    Alea jacta est!
  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited August 2009
    Kex wrote: »
    I'm not sure if you wanted this to work as a dual HT & music system, but if you only need to power two speakers for music, perhaps you should consider the JoLida hybrid integrated units. They are very compact, and give the added advantage of letting you experiment with the tube pre-amp section.

    Even the 1301, rated at 30w/ch for the solid state amplification section, will probably surprise you with it's abilities, and they can be bought used for about $200 and up currently. The more powerful 1501 is at least $500 used AFIK, so that may not work out when compared to the used sale value of you current integrated. If interested, you could try my 1301 out for free if you like, to see if you like that option (just pay shipping costs & insurance). I'm guessing that you would not be sacrificing much, if any, sound quality when compared to the Arcam with this option. They will only drive 8 ohms, AFIK, however.

    http://www.jolida.com/catalogue/hybridamp.shtml

    Of course, that would be a non-starter if you also want this solution to work for surround sound HT, and in that case, I'll make the same offer for the NAD, if you want to try it: just pay shipping (but at 50lbs, that's not as easy a "free" trial as the JoLida would be).

    Not sure how I missed this post yesterday. Thank you very much for the offer! This place is great!

    As nice as the offer is with the Jolida, it's not really something I'm looking for. I am looking to go with a single receiver to give me good sound for music and movies. In my current setup and situation I just want a simple one box solution that will fit my needs for a year or two until we move to a bigger house and I can have my man cave back.

    I'm still considering your NAD receiver but I'm still doing some reading on a couple other options. Thanks again!
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited August 2009
    This is the NAD receiver that I use. If you buy it you won't need further amplification.

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?miscrcvr&1255063293&/NAD-T765-AV-Surround-Sound-Rec