Thoughts on Power Cords

POIDOG
POIDOG Posts: 391
edited August 2009 in Electronics
I'm looking to pick up Power cords from Signal Cables :confused:
to power up 2 amps for now, add ons later for other sources.

Thoughts on these cords and what is best for amps. The price on the
Signal look very reasonable. I'm using the "packaged" cords right now
and looking for a nice value added upgrade.

Thanks in advance;
Bill
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  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited August 2009
    For Signal I'd just go for the Magic Power. If you had quite a bit more money to spend, I'd go with the PS Audio Plus or Statement.
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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited August 2009
    +1





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  • TG Meat
    TG Meat Posts: 159
    edited August 2009
    I use the Signal Magic Power cables for my amps and I like them.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited August 2009
    tcrossma wrote: »
    For Signal I'd just go for the Magic Power. If you had quite a bit more money to spend, I'd go with the PS Audio Plus or Statement.

    Agreed, start with the Signal and work your way up:)
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  • POIDOG
    POIDOG Posts: 391
    edited August 2009
    TG Meat wrote: »
    I use the Signal Magic Power cables for my amps and I like them.

    Can you tell me what you like about them?
    How do they seem to help your amps?

    Just trying to look at all the reasons to purchase :cool: I do like the way they look. Did you get a noticeable improvement in ?

    Thanks for any thoughts
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited August 2009
    I used a Signal Magic Power cord on my girlfriend's headphone amp and we both noticed a reduction in floor noise. I would also consider it a warmer sounding cord compared to the other Signal other PC's and the PS Audio Prelude SC we listened to that day.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,466
    edited August 2009
    Whoever just made that tag needs to turn in their audiophile card immed.i..a..t...........wait. This just in. Gotcha. They never had one.

    Carry on.
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  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited August 2009
    Yes, do carry on with your little tag remarks CHILDREN.I think Ill post a thred on the 3 power cords I just bought to replace the stock ones just to see the tags I get.

    MORE TAG NONSENSE
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  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,068
    edited August 2009
    POIDOG wrote: »
    Can you tell me what you like about them?
    How do they seem to help your amps?

    Just trying to look at all the reasons to purchase :cool: I do like the way they look. Did you get a noticeable improvement in ?

    Thanks for any thoughts

    I used the Signal Digital Magic power cable on my Denon 3910. It helped tame the highs on my RT3000s. They were much smoother (not as harsh). If you wait, usually you can pick one up used on the forum. That way, if you don't see a difference you can sell it to someone else and only be out the shipping.
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  • JohnLocke88
    JohnLocke88 Posts: 1,150
    edited August 2009
    Minor thread jack... I am looking at some amps that have the fixed 'boring' power cords. I like the idea of seperate power cords (mainly because they're cool looking). Is there any way to convert a fixed power cord into a removable one?
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  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited August 2009
    JohnLocke88 wrote: »
    Minor thread jack... I am looking at some amps that have the fixed 'boring' power cords. I like the idea of seperate power cords (mainly because they're cool looking). Is there any way to convert a fixed power cord into a removable one?

    Im interested in doing this myself.Im going to order some DH.labs power plus cable and just terminate the male end and wire the bare end directly into the amps.:eek:I have to figure out where to get some of those things that clamp the cord to the chassis though.Im also going to do the same to the pre also...

    I think mapleshade has some kits or some such that you can use to do the same thing...sort of.

    CLEARVIEW AC CORD KITS (To Replace Hardwired Cords):
    NO EXTRA COST!

    Any good CD player, amp, turntable, or recorder could be great-sounding with a first-rate AC cord. No dice if the piece doesn’t have a removable cord. Since this comes up so often, we’ve developed a kit to change your cord easily—without diving into the bowels of your gear wielding a soldering iron. Couldn’t be simpler: just get a Clearview Power Cord Kit. It comes with prepared and marked bare wire ends plus insulated copper butt splices that you simply squeeze on with pliers—no soldering. Just cut your component’s captive cord 3" from the box and scrape bare the conductors at the cut end, slip on the butt splices, and squeeze. By the way, it’ll sound better than if you’d paid somebody $100 to hard-wire in an IEC jack. The add-on IEC jack and mating plug just add a lot of unnecessary, bad-sounding dielectric.

    NO EXTRA COST—just ask for the Kit Version when you order your AC Cord.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,027
    edited August 2009
    Is there any way to convert a fixed power cord into a removable one?

    Absolutely. All you need to do is buy an aftermarket IEC. Even the best Furutech will only run you about $15.00. Cut the proper size hole, wire it up and you're good to go.




    To the "more cable nonsense" tagger, you are pathetic. I'm sure your mother must be proud of the chicken **** coward you turned out to be.
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  • JohnLocke88
    JohnLocke88 Posts: 1,150
    edited August 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    Absolutely. All you need to do is buy an aftermarket IEC. Even the best Furutech will only run you about $15.00. Cut the proper size hole, wire it up and you're good to go.




    To the "more cable nonsense" tagger, you are pathetic. I'm sure your mother must be proud of the chicken **** coward you turned out to be.

    Any chance for a link to the one you're metioning?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,027
    edited August 2009
    Sure thing....

    http://www.soniccraft.com/products/connections/ac/socket/iec/furutech_inlet.htm
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited August 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    Sure thing....

    http://www.soniccraft.com/products/connections/ac/socket/iec/furutech_inlet.htm

    Oh nifty... bookmarked. This is what was stopping me from doing the power cable upgrade. If i'm going to do it, i'm going to get all of them in one shot. :)

    Thanks!
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited August 2009
    I had Rolland add an IEC connector on my TFM-45 while it was in for service.
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,175
    edited August 2009
    Thanks for the link F1nut, I did not know it was so simple.
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  • JohnLocke88
    JohnLocke88 Posts: 1,150
    edited August 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    Sure thing....

    http://www.soniccraft.com/products/connections/ac/socket/iec/furutech_inlet.htm

    Very cool thanks! I will definitely look into this.
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  • TG Meat
    TG Meat Posts: 159
    edited August 2009
    In response to your question about the Signal power cords, I felt like they opened up my amp a little and appeared more detailed with more solid bass. I never even used the stock cord on the A21, the day I ordered the Parasound, I sent an email to Signal Cable. I also like to have a cable customized to the exact length I needed. I have also used Signal's middle level digital refence cable for my CD player and felt it sharpened that sound as well, but did replace it recently with a Nordost Vishnu, which provided a little more 3d sound to vocals to my ear and my wife's ear who, by the way, is a card carrying audio gear hater forever type. Once again, I know this is a much disputed topic, but I am happy to share my thoughts. By the way, this is my favorite forum by far. Thanks.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited August 2009
    JohnLocke88 wrote: »
    Minor thread jack... I am looking at some amps that have the fixed 'boring' power cords. I like the idea of seperate power cords (mainly because they're cool looking). Is there any way to convert a fixed power cord into a removable one?
    F1nut wrote: »
    Cut the proper size hole, wire it up and you're good to go.
    Conradicles wrote: »
    ...I did not know it was so simple.

    It's not. The best way is to remove the rear panel and use a metal punch of the appropriate size. However, most of us don't have the equipment to do this or the patience for this level of disassembly.

    Cutting a neat hole in a (sometimes thick) metal plate that is attached to a valuable piece of electronics requires some thought and care. There's lots of ways of doing it. I prefer to use a Dremel with a cutoff wheel to cut into the metal. This method is quick and offers far more control than using a handheld jigsaw. Reference figures 7 and 8 of this thread.

    If you are going to cut the hole while the rear plate is attached to the unit, careful consideration must be given to containing the resulting metal particles. You must also make sure that there is enough clearance for the IEC socket and wires on the inside of the case.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited August 2009
    Have you tried using a nibbler?
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,175
    edited August 2009
    We use nibblers at work and they are great. Easy to use and don't create much of a mess.
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  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited August 2009
    Face wrote: »
    Have you tried using a nibbler?

    Would you reccomend this one??

    http://www.adelnibbler.com/Purchase_The_Adel_Nibbling_Tool.htm
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    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited August 2009
    Face wrote: »
    Have you tried using a nibbler?

    No. I didn't see where any hand tool like that would be useful for cutting out a neat little 1" rectangle. Have you used them in this application?

    Somebody probably makes one that has cutting tips small enough to navigate in a very small opening, but I don't know of one.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,795
    edited August 2009
    Power cords.
    Power comes in one end and goes out the other.....simple.
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  • TouchOfEvil
    TouchOfEvil Posts: 967
    edited August 2009
    one day i will eventually upgrade power cords....but for now the stockers must do their job.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,787
    edited August 2009
    fbm211 wrote: »
    Would you reccomend this one??

    http://www.adelnibbler.com/Purchase_The_Adel_Nibbling_Tool.htm

    I got mine at Radio Shack, same as this one, but chrome:

    http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2289712

    Need about a 1/4" hole to start. It will trim an old car dash, so it's more than enough.
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