Admit it... its your favorite store!!!

CaligulaPolk

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

nguyendot

I got kicked out of one in Texas for asking the "wrong" questions once.

I was 15..lol.

dekuda

One of the most overated speakers made in my opinion. Again, the old saying " No high's ,no low's, it must be Bose " I owned a set of AM5's back in the nighties and I was so glad to sell them (And got a decent price!)
Sorry to you Bose owners but they really do suck!!!!!:(

comfortablycurt

BOSE is truly the epitome of audiophile sound. They're supposed to be the best...right? One day I'll throw out my entire rig and replace it with BOSE equipment...but I don't think I'm quite ready to move to that level of audiophilia yet. Maybe one day...

slowpolky

I'm realy curious and cant hellp myself responding to this post . My wife asked me this question about two months ago "Why do audiophiles hate bose " , She said it was a title on an article she saw somplace

Are they realy harsh?

nooshinjohn

slowpolky wrote: »

I'm realy curious and cant hellp myself responding to this post . My wife asked me this question about two months ago "Why do audiophiles hate bose " , She said it was a title on an article she saw somplace

Are they realy harsh?

I think for your needs Bose might be the best choice.;)... Take her to Best buy and listen to Bose, then to the Polk audio setup, and both your questions will be answered. To me Bose just sounds small, flat and lifeless-perfect for mp3, but for real sound you need a real speaker.


John

comfortablycurt

slowpolky wrote: »

I'm realy curious and cant hellp myself responding to this post . My wife asked me this question about two months ago "Why do audiophiles hate bose " , She said it was a title on an article she saw somplace

Are they realy harsh?

Because they're overpriced, cheaply produced pieces of crap. The only reason that they sound good in the demo rooms at the store, is because they have about 30,000 dollars worth of equipment and room treatment driving them. Most people, obviously, aren't going to have that same environment at home.

Here's a big article that goes very in depth about it.

http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html

The materials used in the construction process are about as cheap as they could possibly be.

Here are some interesting numbers on the Acoustimass system.

The frequency response of the Acoustimass satellite speakers-
280hz-13.3khz @ +/- 10.5 db

The frequency response of the Acoustimass Bass Module ("subwoofer")
46hz-202hz @ +/- 2.3 db


Read those numbers...So, the subwoofer is missing all of the information below 46hz, which is where a lot of bass is located, as per their targeted HT customer.

The subwoofer then goes up to about 202hz, which is a very high crossover for a subwoofer. It's necessary though, due to the fact...

....That the satellites will only go as low as 280hz. So, everything between 202hz and 280hz just gets completely eliminated from the soundtrack. The subwoofer has to be crossed over so high to add a little bit of weight to the mid-range, and allude you away from the fact that you're missing a big section OF the mid-range.

Not to mention that with the +/- 10.5 db rating of the satellites, they're going to be running out of steam by the time they get down that low.

The satellites top out at 13.3khz. The human ear can hear up to 20khz. So, you're missing a lot of information up high too.


Bose basically draws on their reputation. They advertise more than any other audio company out there. You can go through just about any magazine on the face of the planet and find an ad for Bose. I've never seen Polk Audio advertising in Car & Driver or Road & Track...nor have I seen them in any non-audio magazines for that matter. I've seen Bose in just about every magazine around...on TV, their huge displays at different stores...

Bose relies on the uneducated consumer that wants to buy a product because of the name on it.

Read that article I posted. There are many many other reasons that Bose sucks.


Box
Of
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mmadden28

comfortablycurt wrote: »

..The only reason that they sound good in the demo rooms at the store, is because they have about 30,000 dollars worth of equipment and room treatment driving them. Most people, obviously, aren't going to have that same environment at home.
...

I can't say I've ever seen a Bose demo setup in a treated room or with any special equipment driving them. I have only ever seen them setup in the aisles of the big Box stores. Well I know I don't have a big open warehouse style environment at my house.

mmadden28

nooshinjohn wrote: »

I think for your needs Bose might be the best choice.;)... Take her to Best buy and listen to Bose, then to the Polk audio setup, and both your questions will be answered. To me Bose just sounds small, flat and lifeless-perfect for mp3, but for real sound you need a real speaker.


John

You're assuming that BB actually setup the Polks properly. Actually I don't think I've ever seen any Polk's setup in any of the Magnolia's. Hmmm.

comfortablycurt

mmadden28 wrote: »

I can't say I've ever seen a Bose demo setup in a treated room or with any special equipment driving them. I have only ever seen them setup in the aisles of the big Box stores. Well I know I don't have a big open warehouse style environment at my house.

They don't have those setups at all of the locations.

At a lot of the bigger stores though, they have Bose setup in a dedicated room that has very extensive acoustic treatment, that was designed specifically to make the Bose system sound good. All of the other brands are relegated to the aisle setups though.

megasat16

Caligula, Any Reason You Bringing Up Bose Bash Fest Out of Nowhere?

Everyone with enough Intelligence Knows What BOSE stands for so why bother it in the Club Polk?

dekuda

I believe they market to the customer who knows nothing about Home Theater and speakers. And they have WAF going for them.
Bose makes dealers sign an agreement to not compare their products with any others, in any sort of a "live" demonstration
Bose refuses to publish any sort of frequency response specifications on their products(and many other specs)
I also had a pair of 501's. No imaging to speak of, no midrange, no real bass. terrible speaker. Since their days of the 901's they ahave been going down hill in build quality and terrible frequency response. Go online and check the tests that have been done for their lack of reproducing at differant frequencies......but the wifes do like them because " they fit in" :D:D

slowpolky

Thats crazy in the article it says that because the cabs are so cheaply made the actually start vibrating when cranked up lol

Sounds like one of them old wind-up alarm clocks

nooshinjohn

mmadden28 wrote: »

You're assuming that BB actually setup the Polks properly. Actually I don't think I've ever seen any Polk's setup in any of the Magnolia's. Hmmm.

A poorly set up display of just about any quality speaker will smoke a bose setup almost every time:)

CaligulaPolk

megasat16 wrote: »

Caligula, Any Reason You Bringing Up Bose Bash Fest Out of Nowhere?

Everyone with enough Intelligence Knows What BOSE stands for so why bother it in the Club Polk?

I dont think old mall in pa had store and i saw it at international plaza mall, i thought id take a pic

said the forum i go to would love it :rolleyes:

megasat16

CaligulaPolk wrote: »

said the forum i go to would love it :rolleyes:

Ok man! Very Smart Thinking! Sure there are tons of those tools in the forum you go to who would love BOSE! Oh...wait, I saw one...two....three....:rolleyes:

mmadden28

King of Prussia Mall (PA) has a Bose store (right between the Apple Store and Starbucks.) I've just never been in the demo room.

CaligulaPolk

mmadden28 wrote: »

King of Prussia Mall (PA) has a Bose store (right between the Apple Store and Starbucks.) I've just never been in the demo room.

ah i never finished walking through KOP mall. always got to halfway and left mall quickly becuz daughter wants to run out our money

mmadden28

CaligulaPolk wrote: »

ah i never finished walking through KOP mall. always got to halfway and left mall quickly becuz daughter wants to run out our money

There's two parts to that mall-you have to walk outside and cross a street to get to the other part. I believe they were in the same area (The Court?) as Macy's, Mortons, The Cheescake Factory, and Cartier. Just outside of Needless Markup.

dragon1952

megasat16 wrote: »

Caligula, Any Reason You Bringing Up Bose Bash Fest Out of Nowhere?

Everyone with enough Intelligence Knows What BOSE stands for so why bother it in the Club Polk?

Oh, we get enough of the uninformed wandering in here to warrant a little 'reminder' now and then.

slowpolky

+10 dragon ,I,m ashamed to admit I was one the un-informed . I once saw a tv ad where they had a jet li martial arts movie playing for different people .They were all saying how awesome it was etc

I have to say that I was suckerd into thinking that this 123 system was something special and unique . Even olivia munn from G4 tv's Attack Of The Show has a bose system and has commented many times how awesome it is

oifvet0608

I know it has been said already but "No highs, No lows, it must be BOSE", I used to tell customers that...you wouldn't believe how naive some people are when it comes to brand name recognition.

We had a room dedicated to these in CCity and they still sounded like crap, they still use untreated paper cones.

disneyjoe7

I stand in front of those store, and laugh at them.

maximillian

So given the choice...
1) Go into Macy's with the wife, or
2) Go into a Bose store, or
3) Sit outside on a bench

which would you choose?

nooshinjohn

maximillian wrote: »

So given the choice...
1) Go into Macy's with the wife, or
2) Go into a Bose store, or
3) Sit outside on a bench

which would you choose?

I choose 3... so long as you provide enough honey walking about to keep me interested and shades big enough so that when the wife gets back I don't get caught!:D:cool:

AudioGenics

one day.....Dr. Klipsch running into Dr. Bose at the airport.

Dr. Klipsch sees Dr. Bose, cups hands in front of mouth and yells “Hello Dr Bose”.

Dr. Bose sees Dr. Klipsch, turns to face the corner where the walls meet
and says “Hello Dr. Klipsch”.

DollarDave

I don't think we need a thread bashing Bose on the Polk Audio forum.

Please show respect to them, if for nothing else than their business acumen.

AudioGenics

In non-physical bashing, the term is used to imply that a verbal or critical attack is similarly unacceptable and similarly predjudicial. Use of the term in this manner is an abusive ad hominem action, used to denounce the attack and admonish the attackers by comparing them to perpetrators of physical bashing.

ooooops.... My Bad.

Dr Klipsch and Dr. Bose.... I wish to delete the previous posting that was meant only in a friendly joking way.

cnh

Curt,

Where did you GET SPECS on BOSE speakers...that's like level 1000 security clearance info at Bose.

As everyone knows Bose 'refuses' to list their specs anywhere...the argument is, in some ways not terrible, that stats don't represent or mean much...now when it comes to really good equipment there is a 'note' of truth to that in terms of the subjective element in audio...and we've seen those threads with regard to speaker wires and I/Cs etc. And also as concerns 'synergy' and so on.

But can that apply to Bose? The Dr. Klipsch and Dr. Bose story was, at least, amusing. And as for Bose bashing...I'm sure they consider 'this' PUBLICITY, as if they need it, and they laugh 'all the way to their Bank'! All the Bose talk on a site like this will have NO EFFECT whatsoever on the giant Bose advertising machine and the hypnotic effect it has on the general public. So, I don't really think that's an issue. Bose will be here long after I'm gone!

cnh

Knucklehead

maximillian wrote: »

So given the choice...
1) Go into Macy's with the wife, or
2) Go into a Bose store, or
3) Sit outside on a bench

which would you choose?

I choose 1 IF she is A: Gonna try on clothes (I like it when she tries on something sexy) or B: if she plans on buying me something.

I choose 2 if she is with her Mom.

I choose 3 if Im exhausted from being drug from store to store.

I like options...

POIDOG

In the future:

"Bose brings audiophile sound in a small footprint. Bose is green" :rolleyes: