Put the hose DOWN and step AWAY from the vehicle!!!

nooshinjohn

Now the government is out to stop you from washing your car at home!!!:eek:


http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20090710/US.Car.Wash.Runoff/


Absoultely unbelievable!

messiah

Get used to it, as we will see more of the same kind of crap. The government is here to make our decisions for us, as we are too stupid to make our own.

SKsolutions

That. :cool: Is not a hose.

Sorry, just came from the wiener thread.

BlueFox

What fool uses soap to wash a car? Water is all that is needed.

tonyb

Keiko wrote: »

I can understand if it's a threat to the environment and ecology.

Wouldn't a more logical solution be to make soap for cars more eco friendly?
I mean really,are we out to ban everything deemed bad for the environment by some wacko's?Pretty soon,you or I breathing in and out will cause too much harm,global warming,carbon footprint,the whole 9 yards of B.S.,THEN THEY,will want to decide if you should stop breathing.Oh wait,thats now,under healthcare reform.Silly me.

LessisNevermore

nooshinjohn wrote: »

Now the government is out to stop you from washing your car at home!!!:eek:


http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20090710/US.Car.Wash.Runoff/


Absoultely unbelievable!

WOLF!

Now, officials in Washington and elsewhere are telling residents to either take that old ride to the car wash, or hold the soap and wash the car over gravel or grass to filter the dirty water.

They're just trying to keep the crap out of the storm drains, which empty where? Your rivers.
Hold the soap?, that's just good advice where ever you shower.:p

It's another law that is basically unenforceable.

AudioGenics

Big Brother....

however conservation is a good thing.

maybe if I stop showering for awhile.

hearingimpared

Pretty soon we'll have to watch where we walk so we don't step on any ants.

dagame27

I posted this on a car forum of mine, which should get the blood boiling. It's amazing to me that the opinions of a select few seem to outweigh the vast majority. As long as people live in this world, they will infringe in some way on the environment. What exactly is their solution?

cfrizz

Just remember this is the ONLY planet that we live on. Until we start colonizing the moon it's best to treat this planet with the respect it deserves since it is the only home we all have.

WilliamM2

BlueFox wrote: »

What fool uses soap to wash a car? Water is all that is needed.

Those that value the finish on their vehicles? The soap helps keep the finish from scratching as you rub the dirt around with the wash rag. It acts as a lubricant.

nooshinjohn

cfrizz wrote: »

Just remember this is the ONLY planet that we live on. Until we start colonizing the moon it's best to treat this planet with the respect it deserves since it is the only home we all have.

While I do agree with the concept of environmental stewardship, I do not agree with the notion that the earth is so fragile and delicate that it cannot take care of itself. An example here would be the Exxon Valdez disaster. This no doubt was an eccological catastrophy of epic proportion. We set off on a heroic effort to restore the pristine coastlines of Alaska and save as many animals as possible from death.

It turns out however that the efforts of man to restore these lands to their original state FAILED wherever man put his hands to even try to set things right. The reason is that the chemicals used to remove the oil encapsulated it is a substance that the environment cannot break down as easily as if it were simply left alone. In areas that man made no attempt to clean, all traces of the disaster were removed in less than ten years.

Bottom line for me is to be responsible, but to assume that the planet will perish because of our activities is absurd. Man's efforts are insignificant when compared to the planet's ability to care for herself. Earth has been life sustaining for 3.7 billion years and will be just fine, with or without our help.

AudioGenics

you are entering the world of "politics and science"
endless discussions and theories.

how about a cold tall one and listening to some tunes instead. Its the weekend....

zeppage2

Even washing a car without soap or with biodegradable soap is a no-no if the water runs off into storm drains, because it still picks up oil, grease and metals from the vehicle's brake pads.

Doesn't rain have the same effect?

fossy

hearingimpared wrote: »

Pretty soon we'll have to watch where we walk so we don't step on any ants.

I thought everybody was already doing this ???? Am I the only one ???

NO SOUP FOR ME

bobman1235

BlueFox wrote: »

What fool uses soap to wash a car? Water is all that is needed.

What fool actually believes this?

I'm more likely to use Soap without water than water without soap (which does absolutely nothing but wet your car)

zarrdoss

BlueFox wrote: »

What fool uses soap to wash a car? Water is all that is needed.

Ever tried to get road tar,sun baked on bug guts and tree sap off your car without it?

oifvet0608

In Germany you are not allowed to wash your car unless you go to a carwash or you use one of the automatic carwashes at the gas station. The automatic carwashes there are about 20 euro for the base wash so I still handwash my truck but I have to do it at the carwash. It sucks but it's better than a ticket for 1000 euros (10 million dollars) and they DO enforce it.

obieone

I think 37,000 people in CA being unemployed is worse! Talk about cutting of your nose to spite your face!:

[url]http:///www.farmwater.org/Current-News/Species-vs.-farmworkers.html[/url]


I'm starting to think Roger Waters was right...'This species has amused itself to death'

AudioGenics

i have heard of rain and there is a tv commercial
but that rain may not be very pure after picking up alot of contaminants in the atmosphere.

awhile there was a huff about acid rain.

WilliamM2

oifvet0608 wrote: »

It sucks but it's better than a ticket for 1000 euros (10 million dollars) and they DO enforce it.

1000 euros is about 1395 dollars, no where near 10 million. Still an outrageous fine for washing a car.

oifvet0608

Thank you captain obvious...it was a joke that clearly you didn't understand.

nooshinjohn

WilliamM2 wrote: »

1000 euros is about 1395 dollars, no where near 10 million. Still an outrageous fine for washing a car.

at the rate our currency is about to devalue because of all the debt we are racking up he might not be that far off...

AudioGenics

...lost in translation... Yah

Face

One could argue that keeping your car clean and waxed will increase your fuel economy could outweigh this issue.

AudioGenics

certainly (hopefully) the condition of the paint in excellent condition will increase the value upon resale

comfortablycurt

cfrizz wrote: »

Just remember this is the ONLY planet that we live on. Until we start colonizing the moon it's best to treat this planet with the respect it deserves since it is the only home we all have.

x2


Notice that the article says nothing about "banning" carwashing. It simply says that you need to do it in a location where the water won't reach the storm drain, or will be filtered before reaching the storm drain. On the grass, or on gravel are two examples. I don't see anything to horrible about this.

All of that soap IS terrible for our rivers and streams. I kind of enjoy having clean water(as if there is any anymore), on this planet. I'm sure the millions upon millions of life forms that call that water home would kind of appreciate it too.

potee

Not a problem where I live in Fl. you can't wash your car due to water shortages. Have to use car wash that recycles the water.

tonyb

Do we not have technology to turn salt water,ocean water,into fresh? Just doesn't make sense for states bordering huge bodies of water to have a water shortage.California,Florida?? Imean if we can treat sewage for gods sake,why can't we turn salt into fresh? Just askin'.

obieone

tonyb wrote: »

Do we not have technology to turn salt water,ocean water,into fresh? Just doesn't make sense for states bordering huge bodies of water to have a water shortage.California,Florida?? Imean if we can treat sewage for gods sake,why can't we turn salt into fresh? Just askin'.

Yes, we can. The evaporative method, is what we used on board ship.
Basically the same concept as an air conditioner, but done repeatedly, under pressure, and at higher temperatures:)

AudioGenics

desalination process is used in many parts of the globe

desalination produces drinking water by removing dissolved salts and impurities from seawater or brackish water.

Evaporative and Reverse Osmosis are a couple examples of the methods used