Polk TSI200

Fud
Fud Posts: 16
edited August 2009 in Troubleshooting
bi-amped low to low,high to high,the correct polarity,under any configuration by my avr onk 607 these speakers seem weak.at higher volumes they seem flat.and you certainly cant turn them up very high before they begin to blare.am i overlooking something or are these loudspeakers not as solid as they seem?the only thing that might be incorrect is onk 607 instructions say fronts to low,the bottom two on the polks,surr goes to high,maybe onk or polk has that backwards?
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited July 2009
    I am a little confused by your post as to exactly what you are asking, but I will give it a shot. To answer your question about how to Bi-Amp with your AVR typically the top posts will feed the higher frequency drivers(tweeters, mids), and the bottom post will feed the lower frequency drivers (woofers). First, make sure to remove the jumpers that go between the speakers inputs. The front left and right channels go to the top pair of inputs (tweeter) on the speakers, and connect the surround back left and right channel inputs to the bottom pair of speaker inputs (woofer). Also make sure you go into your Onk's menu and make sure the "Bi-Amp" option is enabled. The Bi-Amping you have done is a popular and very often over estimated way to increase performance. The "Bi-Amping" you have attempted very often does not (IMHO never) increases performance and sound. You are not gaining any extra power from the unused terminals on the AVR since the unit only has one power source and all channels get their power from that one amp. Bi-Amping with an external amp (say a 5 ch 200W amp) is different because each channel on the amp has it's own power source, so each channel will get 200W. Long story short Bi-Amping with an AVR is not even worth the cost of the extra speaker wire, IMO. Also keep in mind that the 200's are not giant floorstanding speakers and will sound pretty crappy if you try to crank them up and rock out, lol. I have Monitor 40's as my surrounds (the TSi 200's "replaced" the 40's) and they are pretty much the same speaker. They work very well for me as surrounds, and there are quite a few people here on the forum who have used them as mains with positive results. I would suggest just hooking up your speakers "normally" without Bi-Amping them (making sure the metal jumpers are installed) and see how they perform then. Check your settings as well, make sure your speaker type is set to "small" for your fronts/mains and you have the crossover set at around 80hz. Also, what other speakers are you using? If "starting over" doesn't solve your problem, then it may be someting else. Hope this helps, and keep us posted. Welcome to Club Polk.
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  • Fud
    Fud Posts: 16
    edited July 2009
    saying that i had bi-amped was more to show the configuration then to suggest the power capabilities of the tsi200's.although it was my understanding bi-amping was more to isolate the frequency to the specific speakers than to "increase power".considering the tsi200's were built to be amped and everything i ever read suggested these speakers "need" to be bi amped,so i gave it a shot.its low to low and high to high but the tsi200's are mid range.i figure polk knew what the were doing so im sure it would be a consideration of the design.rather then the low frequencies being forced through the mid woofers it would take the mid from the low and transition it according to design.its my only doubt about my configuration,perhaps bi-amping is forcing the low frequencies through the mid woofers and thats holding back the mid range from singing.i also seem to have misplaced the terminal jumpers.and just after i got my subwoofer and new sound card all ready to hook up.its always some "stupid" little thing when youre all dressed up and ready to go isnt it.thanks
  • Fud
    Fud Posts: 16
    edited July 2009
    http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:KTqjXVn1lxkJ:https://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D28196+how+to+make+a+speaker+jumper+out+of+12+awg&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a according to the pic you can make a jumper out of 12 awg speaker wire but suggests banana plugs.would it be safe to make a bare wire connection instead?
  • Fud
    Fud Posts: 16
    edited August 2009
    i think it should be stressed more that these speakers make better rear surrounds than anything.unlike polks' own description of "sonic glory".these speakers are not good for music unless played at moderate volumes.they do have their limits.my 12 yr old low end !jbl's could rival them.they are clean but dont expect miracles
  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited August 2009
    Fud wrote: »
    bi-amped low to low,high to high,the correct polarity,under any configuration by my avr onk 607 these speakers seem weak.at higher volumes they seem flat.and you certainly cant turn them up very high before they begin to blare.am i overlooking something or are these loudspeakers not as solid as they seem?the only thing that might be incorrect is onk 607 instructions say fronts to low,the bottom two on the polks,surr goes to high,maybe onk or polk has that backwards?

    Just how high are you talking about? From all accounts the 607 is a great for its price, but it is no power house. Are you over driving the amp?