Found a cure for HIV/AIDS? you decide to believe or not
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FOLEY, Ala. A Foley physician said what appears to be the first case of HIV/AIDS cure in the world is getting little mention in the media.
Dr. Awadhesh K. Gupta, medical director at Foley Walk-In Med Care, said he first heard of the medical breakthrough in April when he attended the Annual Conference of the American College of Physicians in Internal Medicine in Philadelphia.
Its a conference Gupta tries to attend every year.
This is the most prestigious organization of physicians in Internal Medicine and is responsible for certifying post graduate training in Internal Medicine. It is also one of the oldest, he said.
According to Gupta, who has been practicing medicine in the South Baldwin area since 1997, the cure was first reported in early 2008 by a group of physicians from Germany at the annual conference on Retroviruses and Opportunistic Infections in Boston. The New England Journal of Medicine, one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world, finally published the report in its Feb. 12, 2009, issue, Gupta said.
So why has the news of the first case of HIV/AIDS cure received so little attention where the public is concerned?
I cant be sure as to why so little publicity, Gupta said recently.
My guess is that most scientific researchers are somewhat stunned that a clinician not a research scientist has been able to come up with the cure. Most of the big research money and big name American institutions are somewhat embarrassed to acknowledge that the very first case of HIV cure is not coming from their institutions.
The cure, instead, is coming from Charity University Hospital in Berlin, Germany, and the doctor is Gero Huetter, who works in the Department of Hematology, Oncology and Transfusion Medicine at the same hospital.
Asked about the reaction of attendees at the medical conference in Philadelphia as regarded the news of an HIV/AIDS cure, Gupta said, Unfortunately, because of the hectic schedule, I did not try to engage too many physicians. However, the doctor presenting this information seemed extremely excited about it.
AN AMERICAN
WORKING IN BERLIN
As Gupta explains the case and cure in question, a 40-year-old American working in Berlin had been HIV-positive for 10 years. The patients HIV infection had been under control for four years with conventional HAART treatment regimen (Highly Active Anti-Retroviral Therapy).
When the patient developed leukemia, however, a bone marrow transplant of stem cells was done using standard protocol, which Gupta said includes radiation therapy and chemotherapy prior to the transplant.
Remember, once you stop HIV drugs, the HIV viral count rises very rapidly, usually within a few days to a week, Gupta said.
According to Gupta, Huetter, the German physician treating the American, deliberately chose a stem cell donor who had a gene mutation known as CCR-5 Delta- 32, rather than using the best matched donor.
Gupta said Huetter remembered research first observed in 1996 - research Gupta said is well known in the scientific community. That research found that certain **** men in the San Francisco area remained uninfected with HIV in spite of engaging in risky sexual activities. As it was later discovered, those men had the CCR-5 Delta-32 gene mutation.
As it turned out, the patients stem cell transplant was a success, Gupta said, even though the patient had to have a second stem cell transplant (from the same donor) when his leukemia relapsed.
This patient has been off all his HIV drugs for two years now, Gupta said. He continues to show no detectable signs of HIV in all the known places HIV is detected no signs of HIV in his blood, bone marrow, lymph nodes, intestines or brain. Also, the patients T-cell count remains normal.
Thus, according to Gupta, within the limits of scientists ability to detect HIV, it appears this patients HIV has been eradicated.
CCR-5 DELTA-32
The gene mutation CCR-5 Delta-32 is found mostly in white European populations, especially northern Europeans and Scandanavians, according to Gupta, who is on the staff of South Baldwin Regional Medical Center and served as chief of medicine in 2008.
Those who have this gene mutation from both parents are completely resistant to most common forms of HIV infection. You can get tested for it if you wish, he said.
It is believed that this genetic mutation may have happened during long periods of small pox, plague and other pandemics that devastated European populations.
While the American living in Berlin case is in Guptas words the first case of confirmed cure of HIV in the world, he cites a 1989 case that is similar. Dr. John Rossi, currently at City of Hope Cancer Center in Durate, Calif., had a 41-year-old patient with AIDS and lymphoma. The patient underwent radiation and drug therapy in removing his bone marrow and receiving new cells from a donor.
Whether the donor had the CCR-5 Delta-32 gene mutation or not is not known, Gupta said, but when the patient died of his cancer at age 47 autopsy tests from eight organs and the tumor revealed no HIV.
I have no doubts that present day high tech stem cell transplantation from CCR-5 Delta-32 donors can cure HIV, Gupta said, noting, at the same time, that the procedure is expensive at present and has significant risks of complications and a high mortality related to the procedure itself.
Dr. Awadhesh K. Gupta, medical director at Foley Walk-In Med Care, said he first heard of the medical breakthrough in April when he attended the Annual Conference of the American College of Physicians in Internal Medicine in Philadelphia.
Its a conference Gupta tries to attend every year.
This is the most prestigious organization of physicians in Internal Medicine and is responsible for certifying post graduate training in Internal Medicine. It is also one of the oldest, he said.
According to Gupta, who has been practicing medicine in the South Baldwin area since 1997, the cure was first reported in early 2008 by a group of physicians from Germany at the annual conference on Retroviruses and Opportunistic Infections in Boston. The New England Journal of Medicine, one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world, finally published the report in its Feb. 12, 2009, issue, Gupta said.
So why has the news of the first case of HIV/AIDS cure received so little attention where the public is concerned?
I cant be sure as to why so little publicity, Gupta said recently.
My guess is that most scientific researchers are somewhat stunned that a clinician not a research scientist has been able to come up with the cure. Most of the big research money and big name American institutions are somewhat embarrassed to acknowledge that the very first case of HIV cure is not coming from their institutions.
The cure, instead, is coming from Charity University Hospital in Berlin, Germany, and the doctor is Gero Huetter, who works in the Department of Hematology, Oncology and Transfusion Medicine at the same hospital.
Asked about the reaction of attendees at the medical conference in Philadelphia as regarded the news of an HIV/AIDS cure, Gupta said, Unfortunately, because of the hectic schedule, I did not try to engage too many physicians. However, the doctor presenting this information seemed extremely excited about it.
AN AMERICAN
WORKING IN BERLIN
As Gupta explains the case and cure in question, a 40-year-old American working in Berlin had been HIV-positive for 10 years. The patients HIV infection had been under control for four years with conventional HAART treatment regimen (Highly Active Anti-Retroviral Therapy).
When the patient developed leukemia, however, a bone marrow transplant of stem cells was done using standard protocol, which Gupta said includes radiation therapy and chemotherapy prior to the transplant.
Remember, once you stop HIV drugs, the HIV viral count rises very rapidly, usually within a few days to a week, Gupta said.
According to Gupta, Huetter, the German physician treating the American, deliberately chose a stem cell donor who had a gene mutation known as CCR-5 Delta- 32, rather than using the best matched donor.
Gupta said Huetter remembered research first observed in 1996 - research Gupta said is well known in the scientific community. That research found that certain **** men in the San Francisco area remained uninfected with HIV in spite of engaging in risky sexual activities. As it was later discovered, those men had the CCR-5 Delta-32 gene mutation.
As it turned out, the patients stem cell transplant was a success, Gupta said, even though the patient had to have a second stem cell transplant (from the same donor) when his leukemia relapsed.
This patient has been off all his HIV drugs for two years now, Gupta said. He continues to show no detectable signs of HIV in all the known places HIV is detected no signs of HIV in his blood, bone marrow, lymph nodes, intestines or brain. Also, the patients T-cell count remains normal.
Thus, according to Gupta, within the limits of scientists ability to detect HIV, it appears this patients HIV has been eradicated.
CCR-5 DELTA-32
The gene mutation CCR-5 Delta-32 is found mostly in white European populations, especially northern Europeans and Scandanavians, according to Gupta, who is on the staff of South Baldwin Regional Medical Center and served as chief of medicine in 2008.
Those who have this gene mutation from both parents are completely resistant to most common forms of HIV infection. You can get tested for it if you wish, he said.
It is believed that this genetic mutation may have happened during long periods of small pox, plague and other pandemics that devastated European populations.
While the American living in Berlin case is in Guptas words the first case of confirmed cure of HIV in the world, he cites a 1989 case that is similar. Dr. John Rossi, currently at City of Hope Cancer Center in Durate, Calif., had a 41-year-old patient with AIDS and lymphoma. The patient underwent radiation and drug therapy in removing his bone marrow and receiving new cells from a donor.
Whether the donor had the CCR-5 Delta-32 gene mutation or not is not known, Gupta said, but when the patient died of his cancer at age 47 autopsy tests from eight organs and the tumor revealed no HIV.
I have no doubts that present day high tech stem cell transplantation from CCR-5 Delta-32 donors can cure HIV, Gupta said, noting, at the same time, that the procedure is expensive at present and has significant risks of complications and a high mortality related to the procedure itself.
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CaligulaPolk wrote: »Gupta said, noting, at the same time, that the procedure is expensive at present and has significant risks of complications and a high mortality related to the procedure itself.
that right there is the problem. expensive, significant risks, and high mortality rate
it would be great if some new big breakthrough on finding a cure for AIDS was near. The disease has been with us for a long time now.. and I havne't heard any good news on that front in a long time.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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You gotta be kidding me, any news regarding a cure for AIDS is great news. Do you think treating the disease the way they are now is inexpensive? And doesnt have a high mortality rate? At least now there is some hope for a cure. Quit your whining and rejoice.danger boy wrote: »that right there is the problem. expensive, significant risks, and high mortality rate
it would be great if some new big breakthrough on finding a cure for AIDS was near. The disease has been with us for a long time now.. and I havne't heard any good news on that front in a long time.
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I agree... any news for a cure is great news.. but some times it appears to be promising only to later find out that AIDS and HIV are ever changing and becoming resistant to drugs. It's evolving as it goes and develops into new strains.. that's the really tough part of it all.
High mortality rate in other countries.. but in the United States people are living a lot longer than they ever used to. Yes eventually people die from complications related to AIDS or HIV... and that's what needs hopefully change.
I'm not whining... it's just surprising that as the OP posted.. we're not hearing much at all about any new possible cures.. Why the media or medical community isn't all over it is a real shame.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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The media has been burning our bridges with too much 'false hope' as it is.I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
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Finaly i can go to africa and raw dog it voodoo style
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Looks like you learned nothing from your last thread here. This entire forum would be better served if you left and never came back in my oppinion. No worries though you will be banned soon enough if you continue with your useless insulting posts.Finaly i can go to africa and raw dog it voodoo style
REGARDS SNOWWell, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all -
Ive always wanted an afro
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I think it's great news. Stem cells kick ****
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Ive always wanted an afro
I can accomodate your request... first dump a mixture of water and gasoline on the floor in front of a light socket. Then stick a metal coathanger in said light socket while standing barefoot in the puddle of water and gasoline. An afro will appear instantly.:eek: Now, leave this place and never return.
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Ive always wanted an afro
You crack me up. 3 day's ago you just posted a thread, begging the entire Forum for forgiveness (sniff, sniff):( Offering a self imposed exile, and then your right back with your same old crap. This is an important thread, with important view's, "Adult Issue's" that you have no buisness commenting on unless you have something useful to post. Jerk!:mad:
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Ive always wanted an afro
SLOW...
This is just OFFENSIVE, PERIOD! And Retro's got a point ABOVE!
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Agreed stem cells are the ****, in 50 -100 years if research continue a person if gotten to a medical center in time should hypothetically be able to live forever.Airplay355 wrote: »I think it's great news. Stem cells kick ****
REGARDS SNOWWell, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all -
Hopefully that person WON'T be from slow's bloodline!I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
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Ya know, if you guys dont care to read/hear what he has to say, there is an ignore feature. To constantly jump on the guy over and over is starting to seem quite childish.
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Agreed stem cells are the ****, in 50 -100 years if research continue a person if gotten to a medical center in time should hypothetically be able to live forever.
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Finaly i can go to africa and raw dog it voodoo styleIve always wanted an afro
I think it's about time for someone to hit the ban button on this guy.:rolleyes:
Great news on the possible cure! It may be expensive and risky for the time being, but so have all of the other treatments for it in the past. If it ends up becoming more successful in the long run, it will inevitably get refined more, and thus become less expensive, and eventually safer.The nirvana inducer-
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Maybe they will find a way to use a modified version of the measles virus to give people the genetic mutation. Except the virus will mutate and turn everyone into vampires.
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This is encouraging news, but stem cell transplants are very risky with a high mortality rate. With the mapping of the genetic code we have opened up the possibility of detecting, curing and preventing all types of diseases and cancers.......I think there should be significant breakthroughs in the next 10 to 20yrs......Very cool stuff!!
SlowPolky should be banned, I for one have had enough of his offensive BS.......
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People with HIV/Aids are pretty much dead already, why such a big issue with the high mortality rate for the cure?If...
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Have you read what he types? The only way he will get banned is if we as a group show our displeasure, I dont want to ignore him I want him to go away.Ya know, if you guys dont care to read/hear what he has to say, there is an ignore feature. To constantly jump on the guy over and over is starting to seem quite childish.
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REGARDS SNOWWell, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all -
Yep, Ive read most of what he has typed.
And again I say using your ignore feature will make him go away. Do what you like obviously, just seems the mature thing to do, or maybe the high road if you will. Honestly no skin off my teeth any which way.
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Yep, Ive read most of what he has typed.
And again I say using your ignore feature will make him go away. Do what you like obviously, just seems the mature thing to do, or maybe the high road if you will. Honestly no skin off my teeth any which way.
Dave
I can see your point, and most of the time I'd agree. This guy is doing a little more than just trolling though...he's making some very blatantly racist comments. That's a bannable offense in my book.The nirvana inducer-
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Agreed Curt... It's a shame that people can hide behind a keyboard. If he had to show his face I am certain we would see an ignorant PoS that is still popping zits rather than shaving. May have a black eye or two as well.comfortablycurt wrote: »I can see your point, and most of the time I'd agree. This guy is doing a little more than just trolling though...he's making some very blatantly racist comments. That's a bannable offense in my book.
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Unfortunately I dont think ignoring him is going to work, even if I did there would have to be a concentrated effort by virtually all on this forum for that to stand a chance at working, which isnt going to happen. In my oppinion he is seeking attention and if ignored would simply escalate his behavior.Yep, Ive read most of what he has typed.
And again I say using your ignore feature will make him go away. Do what you like obviously, just seems the mature thing to do, or maybe the high road if you will. Honestly no skin off my teeth any which way.
Dave
He has said in one thread that he believes that the problems in manchester are caused by drug dealing Black people then comes over here into this one and mouths off about Africa and wanting an afro obviously he has some racial motivation. He tells me that if I came to his house that he would shoot me after he discovers that I am not 100 % caucasian and disagrees with him. Hell I was perfectly willing to let things be when he apologized and begged for mercy but now is at his old tricks again and I dont think they will stop until he is stopped. The funny thing is I am not Black either I am half Indian.comfortablycurt wrote: »I can see your point, and most of the time I'd agree. This guy is doing a little more than just trolling though...he's making some very blatantly racist comments. That's a bannable offense in my book.
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Just put him on ignore."They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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He will keep up with his BS as long as he keeps getting all this attention. He has no other way to get people to talk to him. I guess for him ridicule is better than nothing
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He tells me that if I came to his house that he would shoot me after he discovers that I am not 100 % caucasian............... what? you cant just make things up on here
