cs2 trouble

royalty
royalty Posts: 246
edited June 2009 in Troubleshooting
Ever since I got the CS2 I have not been 100% about it. I didnt know if it was all in my head or what. After some rigorous listening tonight I am finally completely convinced that it is not in my head. The sound out of the CS2 is very bright, definitely centered around the high frequency range. The midrange is not very defined. In comparison with my monitor 50s, the difference in midrange is night and day. When I watch movies the voices just never seem to be -right-, and when I really turn it up to enjoy a scene the noise is VERY bright to say the least. I really dont think I am turning it up to a point that is damaging the speakers. This really aggrevates me and then I spend 20 minutes trying to adjust the settings. So do you think I should send it in?
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited June 2009
    How many hours on your CS2?
    Is it broken-in?
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
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  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited June 2009
    its definitely broken in....I have had it for months just havent done anything about it.
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2009
    I haven't had that problem with my CS2 and the Onkyo....does the 706 have a cinema filter option? That should TONE down any 'brightness' on the center.

    Remember the center becomes the most PROMINENT speaker in a surround set up with a DVD or Blu-ray! And that cinema sound is equalized, BRIGHT. The CS2 will show that up because it is a revealing center--

    In addition, If you can 'hear' the M50s over the CS2 then your settings are 'off'. Did you run the auto-calibration on the Onkyo (Audyssey mic)?

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited June 2009
    I ran the auto calibration and everything. The CS2 is SUPER bright no matter if I am watching a movie or listening to music.
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

    CAR AUDIO
    Infinity 6032CF's all around
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2009
    You got me....

    What about the Cinema Filter, does your Onkyo have that? That button/option is 'designed' to tone down brightness!

    A friend of mine on this site runs an Onkyo 805 M50/CS2 up front....and has never complained about 'brightness'--in fact, he loves his center with the M50s?

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited June 2009
    I also have a CS2 with my Monitor 70's and have never been dissapointed in it's performance. I run mine with an Onkyo TX-SR806 and has always worked very well. I ran the auto-calibration and if you ask me it made it worse. Probably something I messed up during the process, but I canceled out of it and set it up the way I had it before I ran it. The CS2 is a solid center channel to say the least and it should work very well for you in your set-up. If you feel it is defective call Polk and see what they can do for you, their CS is spot on from what I have heard.
    HT Rig
    Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
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    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
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    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited June 2009
    That's why I am asking if I should send it in. I have heard many good things about it but it just hasn't turned out to be as great as they say....
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

    CAR AUDIO
    Infinity 6032CF's all around
  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited June 2009
    Have you verified that all the drivers are working?
    Speakers: Polk LSi15
    Pre: Adcom GFP-750 with HT Bypass
    Amp: Pass Labs X-150
    CD/DVD Player: Classe CDP-10
    Interconnects: MIT Shortgun S3 Pro XLR
    Speaker cables: MIT MH-750 bi-wire
    TT:Micro Seiki DD-35
    Cartridge:Denon DL-160
    Phono Pre:PS Audio GCPH
  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited June 2009
    I am pretty sure all the drivers are working.
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

    CAR AUDIO
    Infinity 6032CF's all around
  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited June 2009
    So polk customer support if you are reading this what do you think I should do?
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

    CAR AUDIO
    Infinity 6032CF's all around
  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited June 2009
    royalty wrote: »
    I am pretty sure all the drivers are working.

    Are you "pretty sure", or are you positive? Get your ear within an in or two of each driver and make sure that it's producing sound. Use a paper towel roll or something similar if you need to help isolate the sound.

    What I would then do is temporarily swap the CS2 with one of your 50's and see how it then behaves. This will help narrow down a possible issue with something else in the chain.

    Good luck.
    Speakers: Polk LSi15
    Pre: Adcom GFP-750 with HT Bypass
    Amp: Pass Labs X-150
    CD/DVD Player: Classe CDP-10
    Interconnects: MIT Shortgun S3 Pro XLR
    Speaker cables: MIT MH-750 bi-wire
    TT:Micro Seiki DD-35
    Cartridge:Denon DL-160
    Phono Pre:PS Audio GCPH
  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited June 2009
    The tweeter of the center is just so bright it almost sounds like it is screeching
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

    CAR AUDIO
    Infinity 6032CF's all around
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2009
    Some people have complained about blowing CS2 tweeters if you read the reviews on Polks product pages! But people who do that are usually using crappy AVRs that are driven to clipping. That shouldn't really be the case with an Onkyo 706?

    But it is interesting. That CS2 tweeter is the same as the one in your M50s so it shouldn't be screeching anymore than those!

    If you still have a warranty on those, give Polk CS a call and ask them about this...and if it might be a tweeter problem...if so, they'll probably just send you a new driver.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited June 2009
    royalty wrote: »
    The tweeter of the center is just so bright it almost sounds like it is screeching

    Have you tried hooking it up in place of one of your Monitor 50's? Maybe it's being told to play that way by your gear. A quick swap with an existing speaker would be what I'd do to narrow it down a bit. If you find that it is in fact the speaker, then yeah, contact Polk and look into getting it repaired / replaced.
    Speakers: Polk LSi15
    Pre: Adcom GFP-750 with HT Bypass
    Amp: Pass Labs X-150
    CD/DVD Player: Classe CDP-10
    Interconnects: MIT Shortgun S3 Pro XLR
    Speaker cables: MIT MH-750 bi-wire
    TT:Micro Seiki DD-35
    Cartridge:Denon DL-160
    Phono Pre:PS Audio GCPH
  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited June 2009
    I swapped it with my monitor 50s, and they seem to screech a little bit to when its louder, although not quite as loud as the cs2. If its the gear thats causing it then am I clipping the tweeters or should I change the settings?
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

    CAR AUDIO
    Infinity 6032CF's all around
  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited June 2009
    I think perhaps the answer to my problems would be to get an external amp? I do play movies and music at a considerably high level of volume
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

    CAR AUDIO
    Infinity 6032CF's all around