Kuro discontinued!

Rocco1
Rocco1 Posts: 190
edited May 2009 in Electronics
What is this all about? Why cant they just lower the price some and start selling these things. There has to be at least a 40% mark up on them.
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  • oifvet0608
    oifvet0608 Posts: 148
    edited May 2009
    Closer to 30%....this is a sad day for all a/v afficionado's.
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    Surrounds: Canton Chrono 502 SP
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited May 2009
    If they can't sell them and make a profit...there is no reason to produce them. 30% - 40% is not all that much in the retail world. There is so much more costs to consider other than just what is costs to produce a single item. If it was profitable they would keep making them and keep selling them. It evidently is not. Pioneer as a company is struggling big time and they can't keep making something for the few enthusiasts that want it. They will be lucky to survive to make anything.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited May 2009
    I'm glad I have mine.
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,185
    edited May 2009
    wingnut4772 wrote: »
    I'm glad I have mine.

    ditto:cool::):D:D:D
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  • Lord Vader
    Lord Vader Posts: 167
    edited May 2009
    Rocco1 wrote: »
    What is this all about? Why cant they just lower the price some and start selling these things. There has to be at least a 40% mark up on them.
    when Pioneer announced they were getting out of the TV business some months ago, it was only a matter of time before the Kuro's run would be over. It is a sad thing to be sure but hardly a surprise.
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  • ivansfo
    ivansfo Posts: 145
    edited May 2009
    Sad to see the Kuro go. While I never got around to buying one, I don't feel as if I missed out of something huge. As long as there is a consumer demand for it, something better will come along.

    I just received Crutchfield's mailer and on the front cover is the new Samsung LED. Looks sweet!
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,185
    edited May 2009
    Amazing how thin some of the new LED's are...1.2" !!!
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited May 2009
    Hate to hear that.
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • LarryK
    LarryK Posts: 38
    edited May 2009
    I bought a Pro11FD just in the nick of time (I think many outlets are begining to run out of inventory). Since I live overseas, I won't even get to enjoy it except for a few trips back each year, but I had to have one before they disappeared completely. If you can for it now's the time!
    Pioneer Elite Kuro 50" Pro111FD
    Front: Polk LSi15
    Center: Polk LSiC
    Surround: Polk LSiF/X
    Sub: Polk PSW10
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    Parasound HCA-800 II
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited May 2009
    The problem is that there is an Eco-war on all plasmas. They use too much juice, and Europe is working on banning them altogether. SONY and many others pulled out of the plasma market years ago. Vizio is a large player in the market, but they are coming out with more LCD's than plasmas.

    The Kuro was the premium tv in a dying product range. There are too few videophiles to carry it.
    Venom
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited May 2009
    venomclan wrote: »
    The problem is that there is an Eco-war on all plasmas. They use too much juice, and Europe is working on banning them altogether. SONY and many others pulled out of the plasma market years ago. Vizio is a large player in the market, but they are coming out with more LCD's than plasmas.

    The Kuro was the premium tv in a dying product range. There are too few videophiles to carry it.
    Venom

    I watch my Kuro in my Hummer.
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    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,476
    edited May 2009
    I can definitely tell I'm not an HT buff. I don't even know what a Kuro is......... :eek:
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited May 2009
    wingnut4772 wrote: »
    I watch my Kuro in my Hummer.

    Then you might as well be Al Quieda...:)

    I drive a Rolls Royce pickup truck.
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  • RutgersFTW
    RutgersFTW Posts: 458
    edited May 2009
    The Kuro's were the best, yeah, but it's old tech now. Panasonic has been making plasmas for 15 years now. LEDs are the future, for better or worse. I am a little bummed I never got to own one, though. I'll keep an eye on Craigslist.
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    Apple TV V2
    Audio Technica AT-LP120
    Mirage CMD-5 x 5
    Bic H-100
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,983
    edited May 2009
    treitz3 wrote: »
    I can definitely tell I'm not an HT buff. I don't even know what a Kuro is......... :eek:

    It took me reading the first replies to figure out it was a Pioneer TV - sad to say...

    Hehe
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited May 2009
    RutgersFTW wrote: »
    The Kuro's were the best, yeah, but it's old tech now. Panasonic has been making plasmas for 15 years now. LEDs are the future, for better or worse. I am a little bummed I never got to own one, though. I'll keep an eye on Craigslist.
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    It took me reading the first replies to figure out it was a Pioneer TV - sad to say...

    Hehe

    I don't know you guys.
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    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
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  • RutgersFTW
    RutgersFTW Posts: 458
    edited May 2009
    Hello.
    Currently listening to:

    Marantz SR5004
    Sony BDP-S370
    Apple TV V2
    Audio Technica AT-LP120
    Mirage CMD-5 x 5
    Bic H-100
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  • pablo_rodz
    pablo_rodz Posts: 331
    edited May 2009
    That's one of the reasons I got mine. I couldn't pass it up. I had to have it.
    HT:
    Projector - JVC HD100, 100" Fixed Screen, A/V Receiver - Pioneer Elite VSX-92TXH, Power Conditioner - Panamax M5300-EX, BluRay - Sony PS3, (2) ADCOM GFA 555 Bridged, Speakers - LSi 15, LSi C, LSi FX, Sub - 12" M&K VX-1250.

    Living Room:
    Schiit Saga, Parasound HCA-600, OPPO BDP-103D, LSi7
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  • Rocco1
    Rocco1 Posts: 190
    edited May 2009
    i would assume that they will start selling like hot cakes if they go on close out.
    Man Cave: 7.1
    -PS Audio Power Plant Premier
    -PS Audio Power backup
    -Onkyo Pre/Pro> 2 Adcom555se bridged and bi-wired> RTi A9s
    > Adcom GFA 7605> CSi A6 center, RTi A3s side rears, FXi A6s rears
    >Sub = MK Audio 10'
    -PS3
    -Onkyo 5 disc cd player
    -Directv
    -Samsung 59' plasma flanked by 2 Samsung 43' plasma's
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,233
    edited May 2009
    It's still some of the saddest news I heard in a long time. I'm truly bummed about this. NO ONE makes a better display then Pioneer Elite. NO ONE!!!!!
    Dan
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  • Oblique
    Oblique Posts: 67
    edited May 2009
    Im bummed too and doesnt help that all the places selling them are amrking up the prices, last week best buy had a good deal and now its more than double and thats only for the 5020fd. I hope I can get one in a couple months though b4 theyre all gone.
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  • bigred7078
    bigred7078 Posts: 477
    edited May 2009
    Rocco1 wrote: »
    i would assume that they will start selling like hot cakes if they go on close out.

    lol where have you been. They announced this some time ago, and pretty much all stores that have carried them have had them on close out for almost 2 months.
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  • Oblique
    Oblique Posts: 67
    edited May 2009
    bigred7078 wrote: »
    lol where have you been. They announced this some time ago, and pretty much all stores that have carried them have had them on close out for almost 2 months.

    lol thats what I was thikning when I read this post a couple weeks ago
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  • Roy Munson
    Roy Munson Posts: 886
    edited May 2009
    This is a real bummer as I was hoping to get a Kuro about this time next year.
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  • Oblique
    Oblique Posts: 67
    edited May 2009
    You can still find a couple around online at some places, but if that doesn't go good there's always the krp-500m and krp-600m they are the 5020fd an d 6020fd (respectively) but without a internal tuner, and the krp-500m starts at 1999.99 and some forum writers even say its better than the 5020fd.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited May 2009
    You can probably find a used one as well.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
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    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited May 2009
    There will be another next best great thing to take it's place. There always is.
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  • RutgersFTW
    RutgersFTW Posts: 458
    edited May 2009
    I don't know, great as the Kuros were the Panasonics were never that far behind. I've got two and I'm very happy and even if they're not the last word in ultimate performance, they've always cost much less. I calibrated mine through the service menu's color cut and drive controls and, short of a few hundredths footlamberts shallower blacks than a Kuro, they meet, match, or exceed the contrast and every other spec. Drink the Kool-Aid, Kuro mourners.
    Currently listening to:

    Marantz SR5004
    Sony BDP-S370
    Apple TV V2
    Audio Technica AT-LP120
    Mirage CMD-5 x 5
    Bic H-100
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  • fireshoes
    fireshoes Posts: 3,167
    edited May 2009
    ivansfo wrote: »
    Sad to see the Kuro go. While I never got around to buying one, I don't feel as if I missed out of something huge. As long as there is a consumer demand for it, something better will come along.

    I just received Crutchfield's mailer and on the front cover is the new Samsung LED. Looks sweet!

    Oh look, I just threw up.
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