Sda Srs

bikezappa
bikezappa Posts: 2,463
edited March 2003 in Flea Market
I'm looking for a second set of The Big Polk Daddies SDA SRS. Anyone know where to find these things. My be interested in the smaller versions with fewer drivers.
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  • twochannel
    twochannel Posts: 171
    edited February 2003
    E-Bay! A mint pair of walnut SRS's went for almost $2100 plus shipping. I Paid $2700 for the pair I have in 1986. Talk about holding value! Best Polks ever in my opinion!
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited February 2003
    The best! I dragged my SDA's down into my home theater room to use as the front channels. Mistake. I didn't need the other four speakers! The system sounded better in stereo! Me and four other people all agreed, the sound was everywhere. The Cambridge Speakers couldn't blend with the SDA's. I returned the SDA's back to my stereo room. Any good amplifier recommendations out there?
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  • twochannel
    twochannel Posts: 171
    edited February 2003
    If you have original SRS's and not TL's, Adcom GFA-555 will work well. I had two of them bi-wired until the GFA-565 monos came along. You cannot mono the 555's on the first generation SRS's because the impedance drops too low. I believe 1.2 ohms. An Adcom 555 amp will see a .6 ohm load in mono and will shut down.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited February 2003
    bikezappa,

    Putting a pair of SRS's in my home theater was one of the best moves I ever made. I had been considering it for a long time. When a near mint pair became available for $1400 (including delivery) I couldn't pass it up. The SRS's replaced a pair of SDA 1C's as fronts in my theater rig.

    The SRS's blend very well with my LSi series center and surround speakers.

    I am using an Adcom GFA-5500 power amp with the SRS's.:D
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
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  • frank galea
    frank galea Posts: 3
    edited February 2003
    Can someone briefly explain the difference in the SDA-SRS series, and the SRS 1.2TL. I notice there is a big difference in price, looking at Polk Vintage Page. $1295/PR vs $1699 EA for the latter.
    I have a pair of SRS 2.3TL's. I may have to sell because of space problem. If anyone is interested.
    Thanks
    P.S. I'm new here, so please foregive any missprocedures.
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited February 2003
    I'm also confused. I originaly thought there was only one type SDA speaker. I think the difference is the # of speakers in the box. How many speakers are in the 2.3TL's? How much and are you close to me? I'm in NH.
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  • frank galea
    frank galea Posts: 3
    edited February 2003
    The 2.3TL has 6 drivers (6.5") and 3 tweeters plus the 15" passive radiator. These are in excellent if not mint condition.
    I'm in PA. I'd like to clear 7 hundred for the pair.
    Thanks for the reply.
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited February 2003
    Frank

    Would you take $600. I can pick them up in a van.

    Bike zappa
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  • frank galea
    frank galea Posts: 3
    edited February 2003
    Bike zappa

    That may be workable. I need till later this eve to give you an answer. Shall I email you?

    Frank
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited February 2003
    Frank

    Yes. New to this site. preagan1@hotmail.com
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,699
    edited February 2003
    Frank,

    If bikezappa doesn't come through, let me know. I'll take them.

    F1


    Note to bikezappa, if you plan on using your SRS and the 2.3TL's in the same room, you should know that the tweeters are different and you may notice a timbre mismatch. The SRS uses the SL2000 and the 2.3TL uses the SL3000.
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  • dbnh
    dbnh Posts: 194
    edited March 2003
    Originally posted by bikezappa
    The best! I dragged my SDA's down into my home theater room to use as the front channels. Mistake. I didn't need the other four speakers! The system sounded better in stereo! Me and four other people all agreed, the sound was everywhere. The Cambridge Speakers couldn't blend with the SDA's. I returned the SDA's back to my stereo room. Any good amplifier recommendations out there?

    You asked about a recommendation for quality amplifiers. I recommend considering the Odyssey Stratos (get the cap upgrade). You can find out more info @ http://www.odysseyaudio.com/products.html. I also recommend you check out the user reviews @ Audio Review @ http://www.audioreview.com/PRD_116037_1583crx.aspx. BTW - Klaus of Odyssey will answer every question you can through at him. Best of luck to you.
    My system

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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited March 2003
    For the history of the line go here:
    http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7139&highlight=history

    For an amp... ebay a Carver M1.5t ~$440 for one in good shape, but ask Seller:
    - how it was used... avoid DJ amps
    - what the serial number is... >10,000 is desireable as the amps went thru upgrades throughout the life of the line. The later ones are noticeably sweeter. If Carver has serviced earlier models, they recieved the upgrades.

    At least they were going for ~$440... guy just listed one as a 1200 watt amp and it went for $700... now everyboy's on that bandwagon. If the new, higher price holds, condsider buying twin M1.0t's for about $300 each and bridging them. Same questions apply, but the Ser # target's lower at >5000.

    Carver and SRS's just seem to work well together.

    Then again there is always Sunfire... :D
    More later,
    Tour...
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  • Ceruleance
    Ceruleance Posts: 991
    edited March 2003
    Tour, my 1.0t is SN 80104115, I am assuming your target refers to the last 4 numbers and so my 4115 is under the 5000 target?
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited March 2003
    Probably, but I am not sure... The 1.0 I have only has a 5 digit S/N, #03183. Suggest you call Carver CS at 425.335.4748.

    They should not only help you decode your S/N (likely added a manf date), but also verify the date(s) of any tweaks during the 1.0's production run.

    Please let me know what they tell you.

    BTW, if you sell the M500t, I've seen three go on ebay for $275, $350 and $405. So quite a spread there...

    Here are some current ebay listings:
    For M1.0t’s –
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3013906870&category=14973
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3013623312&category=14973
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3013624477&category=14973

    And here’s one 500 –
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3013565730&category=14973

    Happy hunting… :)
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
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  • Ceruleance
    Ceruleance Posts: 991
    edited March 2003
    It is quite a spread, I have been watching them too, and I have seen 2 go for around 450 in the past month. I've got time to run several auctions until it gets to this point, if I do ever sell it. I haven't decided which one I like better yet, but I think im leaning towards the 500, it seems like it has tighter bass. I think the new plan might be to hold on to both, buy a smaller amp to bridge for the center and a 5 channel pre/pro. At this point I would rather spend 900 and whatever I get from the sale of my infinity's towards new speakers, rather than drop 900 on something like the Outlaw 950, Im much more into music.

    Hope I am not hijacking the post. More on topic, I can't comment on SDA's and my amps specifically, but generally I would recommend both the M-1.0t and M-500t to anyone.
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited March 2003
    Doubt Bikezappa minds a "little" redirection at this point, especially since put in the link to the SDA history thread and were close to topic, but let's ask...

    Hey, BZ, all this good by you?

    BTW, Ceruleance, I had a 500 for a bit about 16 years ago. Was a very nice sounding amp, but found out it was not a common ground design. So I returned it as I knew SDA's were in my future. Not that this matters if you go bridged...

    To me the flexibility you are talking about above is the major strength of separates, even more so with bridgeable amps in the mix. So many ways to go...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
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    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
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  • Ceruleance
    Ceruleance Posts: 991
    edited March 2003
    I agree, I find it very hard to believe that I wont be able to make use of a 2 channel amp somewhere in one of my systems at all times.

    Can you explain common ground design?
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited March 2003
    Would if I could beyond the info the name implies, a connection between the negative terminals on the speaker hook ups.

    Do know it's the most common design, and that SDA's require either it or a relatively elaborate interconnect circuit (thanks to Ken via F1).

    Anybody else "amplify" my remarks? (Gawd, I love a good pun... almost as much as a good... action-smiley-082.gif
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited March 2003
    Well Polk lovers, thank you for all your advice, things have changed dramatically regarding my home theather room and music room since posting my thread. I'm still trying to set up the new used equipment. Christmas in March. Here is a list of equipment that has been added to my home along with total cost. I don't think I will ever by new again, because there is plenty of good, reasonablily priced equipment out there from good Hi Fi nuts.

    Additional mint used equipment:
    SDA SRS 1.2
    SDA SRS 2.3
    10 foot monster speaker cables with really neat tightened gold banna plugs
    Heathkit equalizer DA 1703
    Heathkit preamp AP 1800
    Heathkit amo AA 1800
    Adcom amp GFA 555
    Adcom preamp GFA 555
    Sony CD player
    Total cost= $2100.00. I picked up every thing in van.
    Still need remote controlled preamp, with tuner. B&K PT3???
    Any other suggestions, not much money left.
    Still having FUN!
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited March 2003
    I should also note that I bought the electronics because they were part of a package speaker deal. There was very little differance in price without the electronics. The heathkit electronics sounds better than the Adcom, but I'm still experimneting. The quality of the heathkit electronics is amazing. The feel and touch of the switches is very solid and smooooth and 1970's.

    I put the SDA 1.2's as the main speakers in my music room and home theater room. The SDA 2.3's are my rear speakers in the home theater room. I know this is somewhat decadent, but I like it so far. I would like to get a single SDA for the front and lay it on it's side. We are all nuts arn't we! What is next??
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited March 2003
    Originally posted by bikezappa
    I would like to get a single SDA for the front and lay it on it's side. We are all nuts arn't we! What is next??
    :lol::lol::lol::lol: Yes we are...

    Heathkit was my first integrated amp, a AA-15 that I still own, but sadly has had one channel pass on...:(

    Depending on your budget a B&K AVP 3090 Preamp/Processor (ebay Item # 1950055992) goes fro around $400 and is just a step or so behind the current models. For about half that an AVP 2000 will give you basic Dolby Pro capability and, when your funds are replenished can be traded in at B&K for a special model Pre/Pro hat is essentially a model "ref25". It's the guts of a Ref 30 packed into a ref20 "shell". Cost is $1100 plus the trade-in.

    Others will come along with economical alternatives shortly I'm sure, e.g., Denon AVR w/ pre-outs, Rotel, etc.
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited March 2003
    Thank you for the advice Tour, but I didn't explain myselve correctly. The preamp I'm looking for is for stereo only music listening. The home theater is complete for now. I'll connect the preamp to the SDA SRS's. The two preamps that I got with the past deals are OK but I need a tuner/preamp/remote. I'd love to try a tube preamp/tuner/remore but don't know of any.

    Still playing with all this stuff.
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited March 2003
    OK... I didn't recognize the B&K number...

    2 ch SS pre's are almost to "dime a dozen" state these days. B&K does great stuff, but don't overlook the AVP 2000 just because it's an AVP. I have used mine exclusively for 2 ch as long as I've owned it.

    Carver's are plentiful on ebay and go for ~$100. I think Russ knows their pre's pretty well... I don't.

    Ditto the above for Rotels, Mantis and others are big on and very familiar with them.

    Just tiptoeing to tubes myself, but that's for amps at present, not pre's.... maybe later for them. But they'll likely cost much more than the SS choices above.

    EDIT: Suggest you take this to the 2 ch area to catch more attention on budget pre-amp suggestions...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,699
    edited March 2003
    For a 2 channel tube preamp, take a look at conrad-johnson.
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited March 2003
    F1,
    Not even sure I can afford a look... how much we talkin' for one?
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited March 2003
    F1nut
    Does Conrad-Johnson make a tube preamp/tuner/with remore? I never heard of it but would be interested.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,699
    edited March 2003
    bikezappa,

    Ah, you want a tuner built into the tube pre. No, CJ doesn't have that. However, they do have tube pre's with remote. Hmmm, not sure about a tube pre with tuner and remote. Let's see what I can find.

    Tour,

    The 17LS retails @ $4500.00, to rich for me. I'm going with used.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,699
    edited March 2003
    bikezappa,

    I haven't been able to find anything. May I suggest you get a tube pre with a seperate tuner.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • Ceruleance
    Ceruleance Posts: 991
    edited March 2003
    Tour, I haven't called carver yet, but its on my to-do list (literally) I am trying to replace the VU meter lights that have burnt out with blue LED's on my M-500t, and since the bulb that came out was an 8V .25A unit according to the service manual, I will either need several LED's in series or a resistor with an LED, as LED's are usually 2-5 V and .05A. As soon as I come up with a real plan I will call them and see what they think about viability, and also the S/N's
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