Teacher sends boy, 5, home with bag of poo

Jstas

Yes, you read that right...

YAKIMA, Wash. -- A 5-year-old student at Apple Valley Elementary in Yakima headed home on the bus with more than books in his backpack. Inside was a smelly package his father never imagined he'd be toting around.

"I'm still kind of in shock over this, because why would somebody do this? It's disgusting!" said the boy's father, who wished to be identified only as "Jason."

Jason says his son's kindergarten teacher had bagged up a piece of human **** and stuck it in his son's backpack. His wife found the stinky mess.

"She found a clear plastic bag with a piece of fecal matter wrapped up in a brown paper towel with the note on it," he said.

The note read, "This little **** was on the floor in my room."

Jason says his son's teacher, Mrs. Graham, called last Friday and said her classroom was "stinky." She asked if the boy could have had an accident.

Jason acknowledged the possibility, as his son had had a couple of accidents in the classroom in the past. He told Mrs. Graham there were extra clothes in his backpack.

Jason never imagined the teacher would send his son home with evidence of his accident.

After his wife found the bagged mess, Jason e-mailed school officials. Days later, he received a response apologizing for the delay in dealing with the issue. On Tuesday, he was still waiting for a chance to speak to school officials about the incident.

"What would have happened if it had stayed in there and she hadn't checked the bag? And other kids were playing on the bus and it got out? And it's a very hazardous thing. It's disgusting!"

The school's superintendent said the boy's teacher and the school principal are being questioned. School officials said they'll meet with Jason and his wife next week.

In the meantime, Jason wants his son placed in a different teacher's classroom for the remainder of the school year.

Link to the story: http://www.komonews.com/news/local/43405212.html



That's pretty messed up.

oifvet0608

That's the funniest thing I've heard in a long time.

Ron-P

The teacher should be fired.

Ender

I dunno... if the kid was properly potty trained by his parents, that shouldn't have happened. IMO, the teacher is fighting back and satirizing on the parents' parenting. Teachers have enough to deal with that they shouldn't have to potty train their kids too! Especially at age 5. At least give the kid a diaper or something!

Kex

This seems like a really big storm in a really small tea cup to me, on both the teacher's part and the parents' part. Yes, accidents happen with kids. No, it's not a good idea to leave **** within their reach any longer than absolutely necessary once it has been discovered. Yes it can be "dangerous" (that seems like a really big word for this), or pose a health hazard, but anyone that has young children knows that you have to get used to such things being around more than you might ideally like, as well as turning up unexpectedly in strange circumstances, even without the help of a teacher. Remember (and for those of you that don't know) that it is standard practice to send dirty clothes home with children in such plastic bags anyway, if a potty accident has occured. What is the school going to do? Wash and dry them first? The only difference here is that the child actually saved the clothing from getting dirty.

If she is a good teacher, other than this one lapse of judgement, I would not be asking to have my child moved from her class over this incident, which might conceivably cause more emotional stress on the child than **** tied up in a plastic bag (children frequently don't respond well sudden changes in their routine). If the parents already had other issues with her methods, however, that's a different matter, and this would be the straw that broke the camel's back.

Otherwise, I would just set the rules, regulations and requirements for potty training straight with both the parent's and the teacher and move on. Tell the teacher to put it in the potty next time, and save the plastic bag. Neither teachers nor kids can be expected to never make mistakes.

megasat16

I think both the teachers and the parents had involved in an argument before the teacher does the unthinkable thing anyway.

The parents might have a bit of over expectation from school that they should have taken care of the accidents like that instead of calling them and blow it at their face.

But on the teacher defense, it's an utter disgusting things when parents do not potty train their kids and poo in the classroom where she/he has another 20 or so kids to look after.

Anyway, accidents like that happens no matter potty trained or not and both the parents and the teacher could act like grown-ups. It's both of their faults for making blames on the other for their own excuses. If one of them is a better grown-up with sensible thoughts, the situations like that could be avoided. Well, **** happens when it happens. lol :D:D:D

F1nut

I don't see a problem with the teacher's action.

Jason acknowledged the possibility, as his son had had a couple of accidents in the classroom in the past. He told Mrs. Graham there were extra clothes in his backpack.

Seems like the parents need to do a better job training their son.

cnh

No comment...it's hard to have one concerning this...

shack

This is crap....

Jstas

shack wrote: »

This is crap....

literally

ohskigod

you know, it's funny. we all know that schools have been acting a little wierd lately, and lord knows parentling skills seem to be on a decline.

a strong argument can be made that the pooping is unacceptable (correct), and some might cheer the teachers actions (not close to correct, not even in the same ballpark kids).

one small problem, human **** is a BIOHAZARD folks. the teacher placed a bag of a biohazardous material in the hands of a 5 year old. biohardous materials have a funny knack of causing health problems, which is why they are handled VERy carefully by profesionals (i.e. not 5 year old children)

flat out unacceptable!!

this is a case where the teachers inability to correctly deal with a problem causes a "FAIL" of epic proportions.

believe me, a kid pooping on the floor is a frikkin problem, this I know. a) clean the mess....this is why god invented Janitors (not a dig at janitors, I actually have alot of respect for them, they keep the planet moving!!!)

step 2) some kind of punishment for the child apropriate for his age. he has to know pooping on floor = bad

step 3) place onus on child's parents explaining that they need to take steps to make it stop too. if it continues, additional action might have to be taken (further action NOT including placing **** in the hands of a 5 year old and putting him and other kids at risk)

step 4) watch problem mysteriously get resolved over time if things are done the right way


I swear, its like humanity is simultaneously losing all leadership and problem solving skills en masse. it's like a global f&*king brain drain for god's sake!!!

Ricardo

Maybe it was a **** when it left the school, but by the time it got home it was probably a bunch of poo nuggets.

polktiger

ohskigod wrote: »

one small problem, human **** is a BIOHAZARD folks. the teacher placed a bag of a biohazardous material in the hands of a 5 year old. biohardous materials have a funny knack of causing health problems, which is why they are handled VERy carefully by profesionals (i.e. not 5 year old children)

I see your basic point, but wow, if it is such a hazard to human health, are you sure even the janitor is qualified to dispose of such material? Not to mention, parents need to rethink chores around the house.

ohskigod wrote: »

step 2) some kind of punishment for the child apropriate for his age. he has to know pooping on floor = bad

Nice idea, but in our local public schools the punishment of children is basically prohibitied, and clearly the parents in this case are dropping the ball

ohskigod wrote: »

step 3) place onus on child's parents explaining that they need to take steps to make it stop too. if it continues, additional action might have to be taken (further action NOT including placing **** in the hands of a 5 year old and putting him and other kids at risk)

Again, I hope this would actually work, but unfortunately I have a Walgreens down the street so clearly I don't live in the land called perfect.

shadowofnight

ohskigod wrote: »

one small problem, human **** is a BIOHAZARD folks.

Thats going to be the teachers undoing when the parents lawyer gets involved.

Her hand written note was funny as hell though

What she should have done was cleared the room of all students ( Again...biohazard ) and called the parents immediately to come to the school and deal with the hazard ( The janitor isnt qualified to handle a **** in the wild )...I can guarantee after the mom/dad/kid had to go through that the lazy **** kid would find a toilet from now on.

megasat16

ohskigod wrote: »

a strong argument can be made that the pooping is unacceptable (correct),

If you are 30+ years old pooping or let the **** out in the public, it's definitely unacceptable!

We are talking about 5 years old kid who had an accident once or a few times here. Yes, he should be better trained for potty habits. And there is a chance he might have a medical condition.

ohskigod wrote: »

human **** is a BIOHAZARD folks.

I am wondering that I require permit from EPA to **** in my own toilet since it could be a health threats to me and my family!

Or do I need to send in a sample to EPA to test and approve that my **** is environmentally friendly and not harmful.

Or parents should use an EPA and FDA approved diapers and protection gloves to handle and properly dispose the BIOHAZARD materials which are to be safely stored, transported and to be discarded in the someone else backyard?

ohskigod

some important points


1)Janitors are MORE than qualified to clean (to a degree) messes as related to bodily fluids, and yes, they are usually trained to know that it requires a bit more care than a typical mess (i.e. don't touch it)

They clean it in much the same way i would clean my Ambulance if blood got all over the joint, carefully and VERY thoroughly. (and yes, unfortunatly, I did have to clean Poo too, LOOOOONG story on that)

2) Megastat, your a riot. **** is considered a hazardous material. Plumbing code, and the ridiculous amounts you have to pay a plumber to follow them if you need plumbing done, exists for a reason. The same reason why you just cant dig a whole in your yard and **** in it ......it's because, if not handled correctly and with care, is dangerous.

remember the big Hep A scare from green shallots some years back? that was caused by human ****.

I'll tell you what, take a bucket of my crap and make a sculpture out of it if you disagree with me

3) Polktiger, schools have no provisions to punish kids? really? so I guess no one gets suspended or even kicked out of a school. While guidelines to follow for said punishment might not be agreed with (and I would probably agree with you) I disagree with the blanket statement that schools have no way to punish or reprimand kids as just silly talk




still can't figure out what part of handing a bag of **** to a 5 year old to handle properly is being dumb ishard to understand but hey, different strokes I guess.

even the "hey, what if it was dirty clothes argument" dont hold. if someone crapped there pants that bad, I'm chicking the clothes. I would much rather catch hell for chucking **** smeared clothes than packing a loaf in plastic and shoving it purposely in a 5 year old kid's bag. call me kooky

Kex

ohskigod wrote: »

... I'll tell you what, take a bucket of my crap and make a sculpture out of it if you disagree with me

I'd rather not try my sculpting skills on your bucket of crap, but do you think that parents that wipe bum constantly with just a cloth wipe are adequately protected? What you say is not nonsense, but dogs **** and pee on other people's lawn all the time and it is never entirely lifted 100% (some residue will always remain). How well are public bathrooms disinfected? How many people leave public bathrooms without washing their hands, even though their hand was just separated from their a$$ by porous sheets of thin paper, and then touch the handle you will have to pull with your own hand to get out of that same bathroom? As long as the kid is not sticking the **** in his mouth, or pooping on somebody's shallot field, it's not usually life threatening, and it's less serious than some other lapses of hygiene standards I can think of. JMO!

megasat16

ohskigod wrote: »

remember the bug Hep A scare from green shallots? that was caused by human ****.

I'll tell you what, take a bucket of my crap and make a sculpture out of it if you disagree with me

You should extra careful not to touch your own BIOHAZARD when wiping!

My point is you are making a BIG DEAL out of 5 years old having an accident but the grown-ups (teacher and parents) acting worse than 5 years old. And you want to put the kid to court for this and try for that? Otherwise, what exactly you are suggesting?

Schools and Parents goes hand in hand to educate kids and should cooperate. When they snort at each others for the simple things like that, everyone in our country will end up in court in the future!

Jstas

If you don't think poo is a biohazard, go talk to your friendly neighborhood ambulance squad and ask them what they have to do to clean up after a bout of **** destruction renders itself all over the back of the "bus".

That is one time when it really sucks to be the FNG.

ohskigod

megasat16 wrote: »

You should extra careful not to touch your own BIOHAZARD when wiping!

My point is you are making a BIG DEAL out of 5 years old having an accident but the grown-ups (teacher and parents) acting worse than 5 years old. And you want to put the kid to court for this and try for that? Otherwise, what exactly you are suggesting?

you might have misunderstood the post. the 5 year old gets leaway here (though again it doesn have to be addressed)

my initial rant was against the TEACHER for packing the poo and giving it to the kid. If I were the principal that teacher would be fired.....quickly.

hey, teachers can have lapses in judgement, but **** in a 5 year old's bag could concievaby be where my mercy would end. reread my initial post but, I think you got the wrong impression.

Jstas

If you are cleaning up a kid too young to clean themselves or you are cleaning up your own aft regions, you do this novel thing when you are done. We call it washing your hands. You use this equally novel stuff called soap and preferably hot water. Takes care of most nasties pretty quick.

If you are cleaning a baby's rear and not using a baby wipe which has disinfectant properties then you need to go find yourself some and start using them.

If you aren't washing your hands after partaking in the experiences listed above then don't ever shake my hand. Dirtball. That's disgusting.


Even the bathroom attendant dude at the club has it right. "If you gonna touch yo man, wash yo hands!" (He can be found at Adelphia's in Deptford, NJ) and if you go and use a stall and you try to leave without washing your hands, he will embarrass you to no end until you do. Good on him telling you to do what your momma shoulda had the good sense to teach you right in the first place!

wizzy

Kex wrote: »

How many people leave public bathrooms without washing their hands, even though their hand was just separated from their a$$ by porous sheets of thin paper, and then touch the handle you will have to pull with your own hand to get out of that same bathroom?

That's why I always dispense paper towels prior to washing hands, wash my hands, use the paper towel to dry them, turn off water using paper towel, and open door to restroom with paper towel. Usually a waste receptacle is close enough that I can toss the paper towel in as I walk out the door.

Never made much sense to wash my hands and then touch the same faucet handle that gets touched a thousand times a day by people who just took a crap.

shadowofnight

megasat16 wrote: »

If you are 30+ years old pooping or let the **** out in the public, it's definitely unacceptable!

One of the funniest things I have ever seen on video was when this 20 something chick thought it would be cool to actually piss in public in front of dozens of people at some very public place.

This 70 something great grandpa see's her doing it....walks over to her disrespectful squatting **** and procedes to drop kick her into next week....it literally is so funny it brought tears to my eyes.

Of course its NOT work safe....slight nudity involved...but if you are at home you have got to see this. Grandpa could have kicked a 35 yard field goal with his effort ... If you are sipping coffee or a beer....set it down and swallow before clicking if you value your keyboard


http://www.sexyandfunny.com/watch_video/kicked-while-taking-a-pee-_2255.html

tcrossma

Kids have accidents folks. Boys usually start potty training somewhere between 2-3 years old, and it can sometimes take a little while to get completely trained. Even once potty trained a child can have the occasional accident. Sometimes they might hold it too long because they don't want to leave what they are doing, or they might just have something slip out while farting. Hell, even adolescents and grownups can have occasional accidents!

Potty training isn't always easy, and every kid learns at a different pace and in a different way. This incident does not automatically indicate that the parent isn't doing their job.

The only blame I can see here is on the twisted teacher who sends a **** home in a 5 year olds backpack. Grow up, dispose of it properly, and if it's a recurring issue with the child then meet with the parents to discuss it. As a parent I would be pretty ticked off at that teacher, and I would also move my child to another classroom for the remainder of the year.

Ender

tcrossma wrote: »

Kids have accidents folks. Boys usually start potty training somewhere between 2-3 years old, and it can sometimes take a little while to get completely trained. Even once potty trained a child can have the occasional accident. Sometimes they might hold it too long because they don't want to leave what they are doing, or they might just have something slip out while farting. Hell, even adolescents and grownups can have occasional accidents!

It's not an "accident" anymore when it's happened a few times prior to this event. At that point, the parents need to take charge. And since the parents knew of these prior occurrences, I suspect the teacher has already spoken to the parents about it.

If the parents knew this keeps happening, why didn't they give the child a diaper?

oifvet0608

You put a 5 year old in daipers and he will stop having "accidents"...funny how it works but it does. Even at that age kids are self conscious about their appearence. Everyone has expirences when they are children that they are/will be embarrased about but then you become an adult and realize that you really are pathetic so...I think he will get over it.

polktiger

ohskigod wrote: »

3) Polktiger, schools have no provisions to punish kids? really? so I guess no one gets suspended or even kicked out of a school. While guidelines to follow for said punishment might not be agreed with (and I would probably agree with you) I disagree with the blanket statement that schools have no way to punish or reprimand kids as just silly talk

Things might be different where you live, but elementary schools here can not give detention, and you are not permitted to make kids stand at the wall during recess. Also, down here you can not give a young child a suspension if it creates a hardship on the parents. Saturday school is also no longer permitted due to budgets. You can't spank kids. If you send Johnny home with a note to the parent, you are likely to open a **** storm (bad pun) from the parents becuase Johnny is an angel at home, so you the teacher must be the devil. You can't even put kid's name on the board as it damages their self esteem.

While the teacher's actions are not defendable, this is being treated like the kid had an an isolated accident. I bet with more investigation we will find that little Johnny has done this several times (parent admits as much in the OP), and the parents still have failed to potty train Johnny or take other corrective measures. In addition the teacher likely has been the person cleaning up the "poo" since the school has 1 or 2 daytime janitors as the real cleaning crews come in at night. The janitor is also the maintenance man and you can easily wait an hour for one of them to get there since they are cleaning the biohazards in the bathroom, puke from a sick kid in another classroom, fixing a broken desk, or taking their union negotiated smoke break.


Upon further reading, if you are sending you child to school with extra clothes because he is so likely to soil himself he does not need to be in a standard classroom. I suspect this teacher is fed up with cleaning up the "little turds." Instead of sending it home, she should have taken it and put it on the principal's desk as the principal at this point is not doing his/her job.

POIDOG

All said a parent teacher conference is in order and a mature way to determine the corrective actions required. All around handled in a very sh***y way.

Ron-P

Ender wrote: »

I dunno... if the kid was properly potty trained by his parents, that shouldn't have happened. IMO, the teacher is fighting back and satirizing on the parents' parenting. Teachers have enough to deal with that they shouldn't have to potty train their kids too! Especially at age 5. At least give the kid a diaper or something!

There are many more ways to handle a situation like this rather then bag the poo and send it home in the child's backpack.

When a teacher does something like this, it just proves that mental illness exists, the teacher needs to be removed from dealing with kids.

mrbigbluelight

ohskigod wrote: »

you know, it's funny. we all know that schools have been acting a little wierd lately, and lord knows parentling skills seem to be on a decline.

a strong argument can be made that the pooping is unacceptable (correct), and some might cheer the teachers actions (not close to correct, not even in the same ballpark kids).

one small problem, human **** is a BIOHAZARD folks. the teacher placed a bag of a biohazardous material in the hands of a 5 year old. biohardous materials have a funny knack of causing health problems, which is why they are handled VERy carefully by profesionals (i.e. not 5 year old children)

flat out unacceptable!!

Well ....... 6 .... 7 ..... 8 ...... 9 ....... 10. Better count to 10 again.

1....2.....3.....4......5.....6......7......8.....9.......10.

Well, that isn't going to work, I can count to next Tuesday and I'm still going to be in "RANT" mode.

Does anyone REALLY find this teacher's actions acceptable.

Forget ohskigod's MOST EXCELLENT point that **** is a biohazard. It doesn't take a child psychologist to imagine a scenario where a 5 year old CHILD, fearful of his parents' reaction to a BAG OF **** in his napsack, opens it up and gets some **** in a cut, in a mucous membrance (mouth, eye, etc) and gets

HEPATITIS C

!

So, to teach 5-year old Billy a "lesson", we approve of giving him

HEPATITIS C

?

JEZZZUHHS H FUGGING CRIPES !!!!!

"Well, Lil' Billy is 5, and he shouldn't be pooping on the floor at this age !

Agreed. So we potentially destroy his liver to teach him a lesson ?

GAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWDDDDDD DAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYIIIIMMMMMMMMM !

I could rant and rave forever (not to say that I'm correct), but here's a question for all you that find this "funny":

Where the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuugggggg was the fuuuuggggggggging teacher while this kid was pooping on the floor ?

He is a repeat offender: "He's done it before !" : so ..... was Ms. Crabtree too busy to notice that our repeat "criminal" had his pants down and was pooping ?

Does the kid need help ? I'd say yes.
Does the kid have some sort of medical/mental problem ? I'd venture a guess, "Yes".

Is sending a bag of **** home with a 5-year old help ?

Oh, yeah ..... that's a real solution to a problem.

:mad:

steveinaz

That's one **** of a teacher. She'd be sportin a size 10 up her **** if that was my kid. Everyone has accidents, especially little ones. A simple phone call would have sufficed; that was straight ignorant and unprofessional. F'n ****.