Bad or good idea, President can turn the internet off at will.
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A cybersecurity bill has been introduced and right now is referred to committee. Do you think this is a good idea? Here is a small part of what this would do if passed.
(c&p from a page I was reading on this topic)
This bill has been introduced by Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) and the first assessment of the language is alarming. Among other things, this legislation would give the President of the United States the authority to "shut down" the Internet during a "national emergency" without providing any specifics on what that means.
Essentially, the Act would federalize critical infrastructure security. Since many of our critical infrastructure systems (banks, telecommunications, energy) are in the hands of the private sector, the bill would create a major shift of power away from users and companies to the federal government. This is a potentially dangerous approach that favors the dramatic over the sober response.
One proposed provision gives the President unfettered authority to shut down Internet traffic in an emergency and disconnect critical infrastructure systems on national security grounds goes too far. Certainly there are times when a network owner must block harmful traffic, but the bill gives no guidance on when or how the President could responsibly pull the kill switch on privately-owned and operated networks.
Link to proposal .pdf : http://commerce.senate.gov/public/_files/Cyberbillsummaryonepagerplusthreepagesummarypressrelease1Apr090.pdf
Link: http://newsblaze.com/story/20090411130825zzzz.nb/topstory.html
(c&p from a page I was reading on this topic)
This bill has been introduced by Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) and the first assessment of the language is alarming. Among other things, this legislation would give the President of the United States the authority to "shut down" the Internet during a "national emergency" without providing any specifics on what that means.
Essentially, the Act would federalize critical infrastructure security. Since many of our critical infrastructure systems (banks, telecommunications, energy) are in the hands of the private sector, the bill would create a major shift of power away from users and companies to the federal government. This is a potentially dangerous approach that favors the dramatic over the sober response.
One proposed provision gives the President unfettered authority to shut down Internet traffic in an emergency and disconnect critical infrastructure systems on national security grounds goes too far. Certainly there are times when a network owner must block harmful traffic, but the bill gives no guidance on when or how the President could responsibly pull the kill switch on privately-owned and operated networks.
Link to proposal .pdf : http://commerce.senate.gov/public/_files/Cyberbillsummaryonepagerplusthreepagesummarypressrelease1Apr090.pdf
Link: http://newsblaze.com/story/20090411130825zzzz.nb/topstory.html
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I think he needs to shut CP down from time to time
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Is this the "Left Wing" Nuke option?
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I don't see how that'd be possible while still maintaining communications between all the assorted Govt. & Military branches, it would have to be a VERY SELECTIVE "KILL SWITCH" !
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I don't see how that'd be possible while still maintaining communications between all the assorted Govt. & Military branches, it would have to be a VERY SELECTIVE "KILL SWITCH" !:)
All they need is access to every ISP in America. Probably not that hard at all....Life without music would♭ -
Is this like the giant router in the South Park episode. He just needs to unplug it right?
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There's really a question whether this is a "bad or good idea"? C'mon people.If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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We the undersigned think it's a great idea:
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Doesn't FEMA already has that power?
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All they need is access to every ISP in America. Probably not that hard at all....
They don't even need that. Just kill the digital trunk carriers and you effectively take down everything.Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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Does this mean no **** if we have an emergency situation?Vinyl, the final frontier...
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Does this mean no **** if we have an emergency situation?
you are already being monitored, don't ask how I know, I just do. I would suggest a return to the glossy for your monkey spank, like vinyl, no digital footprint.
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The military should be on Mil-Net so if there is an emergency they should be, relatively, unscathed. The Internet has become so ubiquitous that shutting it down, if possible, would likely have huge unintended ramifications.
I suspect that for this to work the network topology would need to be redesigned with the government in charge of key central routers. Of course, if that happened then it would be easy to monitor all traffic.
Whatever became of the FBI program (forgot the name) to install monitoring software on routers?Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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you guys ever hear of FOIA?? try asking these questions to the folks who actually know and the redacted info if anything you receive will look worse than your third grade teacher lining out your first composition.
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Whatever became of the FBI program (forgot the name) to install monitoring software on routers?
All major isp providers have had them for years (black boxes). Without going into detail they are more invasive now than ever since 9-11. Special divisions have been setup to decipher all the info. that comes through. Everything that you do is logged one way or another. Here is a little insight that is available to the general public that I can show you. The links are to the DNI website (Director of National Intelligence).
http://www.dni.gov/reports/data_mining_report_feb08.pdf
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I will have tin foil hat kits for sale in the FM!
A few "acquaintances" give me insight as to what happens behind the scenes on quite a few things. No need for tin hats for me other than maybe Halloween. But, if they are magic tin foil hats I may twist them into braids and use em' as interconnects!! Do you happen to know the tin foils purity??;) -
There's no anonymity anymore, who still thinks that way?...lol.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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There's no anonymity anymore, who still thinks that way?...lol.
You'd be surprised.
Especially people who do things like mouth off at you and try to do something like hack a Facebook account while they are logged in to their OWN Facebook account. Then they get all indignant and tell you that you broke the law when you send them an email warning them to take a hint that they are out of their league and then give them their entire life's info from family and kids names, address of home, office and the phone number at their desk at work, home phone, cellphone and even what companies that they hold credit, loan and bank accounts with.
Pfft! Like who DOESN'T know how to find that stuff! I mean, c'mon!Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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Just think if that were to happen, All local hospitals will have a MAJOR Influx of Polkies going through "CP Withdrawl" They wouldnt know where to start.
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I think they are worried about the power grid. I'm more worried about the power grab.>
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We the undersigned think it's a great idea:
Idi Amin
Pol Pot
Adolph Hitler
Ferdenand Marcos
Hugo Chavez
Sean Penn
Fidel Castro
Kim Jong-il
You left a lot of names off the list:
Barrack Obama
Joe Biden
Nancy Pelosi
Harry Reid
Barney Franks
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You left a lot of names off the list:
Barrack Obama
Joe Biden
Nancy Pelosi
Harry Reid
Barney Franks
The usual Socialists
And Dick Chaney. There's a lot more people in on this deal.
I'm not being political, just blunt. The Old V.P. was all about
national security."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
bad bad bad! whats next turn off your phones? what other freedoms and rights will they take away next if we allow this to happen?
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sucks2beme wrote: »And Dick Chaney. There's a lot more people in on this deal.
I'm not being political, just blunt. The Old V.P. was all about
national security.
If he was really all about national security,seems to me you would secure your borders first.HT SYSTEM-
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Everyone really needs to watch this ENTIRE video. It contains a lot of information interrelated to very important issues beyond the title subject matter.
Watch the entire video regardless of what you think of its creator or your initial impressions of the material. Pass this on to others for evaluation of the information regardless of your personal opinion. There is more at stake for everyone throughout the world than you might think. Its fast approaching 11:59 for everyone.
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There's no anonymity anymore, who still thinks that way?...lol.
Agreed. In fact Im watching Mark right now. Hard to tell exactly what he's doing - there is a well oiled up circus midget in the way.polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
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Agreed. In fact Im watching Mark right now. Hard to tell exactly what he's doing - there is a well oiled up circus midget in the way.
That's all you're doing? Hell, I remove a penny at a time from his bank accounts, covertly and he never even knows. I use the money to send flowers to RuSsMaN and make sure they say BDT on them.
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