Kiss your big-screen goodbye?
xj4094dg
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Its time to move from California...
In their continuing quest to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, state regulators have uncovered a new villain in the war on global warming : your big screen TV
Couch potatoes, beware.
The California Energy Commission is considering a proposal that would ban California retailers from selling all but the most energy-efficient televisions. Critics say the news standards could take 25 percent of televisions off the market most of them 40 inches or larger.
The larger the television, the more at risk it is of being banned unnecessarily in California, said Douglas Johnson, senior director of technology police for the Consumer Electronics Association.
Geez what next?
In their continuing quest to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, state regulators have uncovered a new villain in the war on global warming : your big screen TV
Couch potatoes, beware.
The California Energy Commission is considering a proposal that would ban California retailers from selling all but the most energy-efficient televisions. Critics say the news standards could take 25 percent of televisions off the market most of them 40 inches or larger.
The larger the television, the more at risk it is of being banned unnecessarily in California, said Douglas Johnson, senior director of technology police for the Consumer Electronics Association.
Geez what next?
"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." Neil deGrasse Tyson.
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Would make getting a projector a much easier sell to the wife....Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
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California has already banned everything else. Next they will ban suwoofers, claiming that their sonic output causes earthquakes...The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Lobbyist will fix that law.Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
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vacuum tube hifi's days are surely numbered (not to mention all Class A power amplifiers -- tube or soiled state).
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Do it now Sal, while she's on board.;)
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CA has enough problem already... Just another way to focus attention of all their "real problem"Main Gear
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Of course, one BIG problem they haven't built any new power plants in
35 years in California. They buy power from surrounding states, driving
up prices. If they don't fix that soon, they won't need new regulations,
they'll need a supply of candles."The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson -
I see nothing remotely alarmist about this. You can have imbalance either way: with no motivation to improve efficiency, it can be argued convincingly that manufacturers frequently line their pockets selling outdated, inefficient technology. It make sense to me to encourage better technologies that save money, such as energy efficient cars, dishwashers, laundry machines (a huge improvement IMO), water heaters, furnaces, a/c units ... So why not televisions as well? Perhaps this is just California leading the way, and looking ahead?
http://www.energy.ca.gov/appliances/tv_faqs.htmlAlea jacta est! -
My wife wants me to mount the projector in the living room, she's tired of out 36" Wega, she says it's too small!
After living with it for a year, I would say that 36" is plenty for watching the news, or basic programming; but 46" is possibly on the small side for movies. However, our living room is not that big (12' x 18', IIRC), so we would probably be sitting too close if it got much bigger (sitting about 9' from the screen currently), and we don't really want the TV to dominate the decor in the living room when not in use, which even the 46" already does to some extent.
My ideal setup would probably include a hidden projector and screen in the living room for movies, that would only be visible when in use, and staying with a 36-42" flat screen in the family area for normal TV viewing. JMO, good luck with the quest!Alea jacta est! -
My wife wants me to mount the projector in the living room, she's tired of out 36" Wega, she says it's too small!
Heck yeah do it asap before she changes her mind, Panasonic 3000U or Epson should do the trick with electric screen allowing you to keep the 36 in place.
Left CA awhile ago, staying in Japan as long as I can.Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!
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I see nothing remotely alarmist about this. You can have imbalance either way: with no motivation to improve efficiency, it can be argued convincingly that manufacturers frequently line their pockets selling outdated, inefficient technology. It make sense to me to encourage better technologies that save money, such as energy efficient cars, dishwashers, laundry machines (a huge improvement IMO), water heaters, furnaces, a/c units ... So why not televisions as well? Perhaps this is just California leading the way, and looking ahead?
http://www.energy.ca.gov/appliances/tv_faqs.html
There is a distinct difference between "encouraging better / more efficient technologies" and just a blanket outlaw of technologies that are deemed inefficient (completely arbitrarily, no less, by a government).If you will it, dude, it is no dream. -
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After living with it for a year, I would say that 36" is plenty for watching the news, or basic programming; but 46" is possibly on the small side for movies. However, our living room is not that big (12' x 18', IIRC), so we would probably be sitting too close if it got much bigger (sitting about 9' from the screen currently), and we don't really want the TV to dominate the decor in the living room when not in use, which even the 46" already does to some extent.
I have a 57" Hitachi CRT RPTV in an 11'x12' room. Perfect. Just like being at the movies.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Just 1 good earthquake away from the return of sanity. Kalifornians made their bed, now they can sleep in it.
A lot of the countries probelms will go away with that earthquake...
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bobman1235 wrote: »There is a distinct difference between "encouraging better / more efficient technologies" and just a blanket outlaw of technologies that are deemed inefficient (completely arbitrarily, no less, by a government).Alea jacta est!
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Yeah,Cali is a bit over the top.Tax stuff out of existance.Wait,all that class A tube gear that doesn't have the saves energy seal on it,will get taxed up the ying yang.Some of you guys are going to need a windmill in your yards the size of a ferris wheel,with all that tube gear your running.:DQuestion is,when is enough,enough? Just curious,what would it take,how much taxation,will it take for some of you to stand up and say "stop"?HT SYSTEM-
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... Just curious,what would it take,how much taxation,will it take for some of you to stand up and say "stop"?Alea jacta est!
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God I hate California.polkaudio sound quality competitor since 2005
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mhardy6647 wrote: »vacuum tube hifi's days are surely numbered (not to mention all Class A power amplifiers -- tube or soiled state).
That [to me] is like allowing marriage with no sex. :eek:~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I never even had to turn on the heat in my house during the winter. Greenhouse Effect be Damned!
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Ok, so order it mail order and have it shipped to your front door. That has I bought my last LCD HD TV. Americans will not be denied!
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Jeez, can't you find your way to Nevada or Oregon to buy a banned TV ??