AudioQuest & Bluejeans reply email to me...

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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited April 2009
    ;)Gawd,,, I love how you guys "multi quote" please tell,, how do you do that?

    It's the little square button next to the quote button in the lower right hand of each post. You'd click it to quote each post all the way until the last post you wish to quote, then you hit the quote button.

    For example, say you wanted to quote posts 3, 4, 5, and 8. You'd hit the multi quote icon in posts 3, 4, and 5, and in post 8 you'd hit the quote button. You can even quote a post in one thread and bring it into another.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited April 2009
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    Classic erroneous analogies by an 'audiophile'. Some just don't get it.

    Expect the fire ants to head out of their nests.

    The fraud and trouble maker is back at it again.
  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2009
    After over 40 years of messing around with this audio hobby...I am so thankful that these guys have shown up to enlighten me about the error of my ways when it comes to this stuff. Their information discovered through countless minutes of internet seaching has truly opened my eyes and will now allow me to totally disregard everything I have ever experienced over the years (audio wise of course). Every one of you should offer them a hearty "atta boy" and place the in the anals of audio. I know I will.
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  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited April 2009
    shack wrote: »
    After over 40 years of messing around with this audio hobby...I am so thankful that these guys have shown up to enlighten me about the error of my ways when it comes to this stuff. Their information discovered through countless minutes of internet seaching has truly opened my eyes and will now allow me to totally disregard everything I have ever experienced over the years (audio wise of course). Every one of you should offer them a hearty "atta boy" and place the in the anals of audio. I know I will.

    I was refering to HDMI cables and the ability to pass 1080p quality signals to the tv and I wasn't refering to more sensitive speaker cable wires which a lot of times quality and price do matter. Of course having a very good quality and sometimes pretty expensive speaker wire is a lot more important than having a certain kind of HDMI wire.
  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited April 2009
    You're pretty slow aren't you?

    When I said "we all agree with you", I was referring to your apparent hatred for high priced HDMI cables. I thought I made that pretty clear when I said...



    Apparently I didn't make it clear enough. Also, why would I direct any of these comments towards Snow when I'm in 100% agreement with him?



    I find this kind of hard to believe myself...:rolleyes: Notice that the AQ rep posted a response to an apparent question about the CL2/CL3 rating of their cables. Note that in Digitalvideos original email to AQ that there wasn't any mention of said CL2/CL3 ratings.




    Just FYI, you're about one stupid post away from my Ignore List. I'm sure this doesn't bother you though, as you seem to thrive on stupidity.

    Carry on.

    If you think that all companies have the same response methods and criteria you must never email any companies. MediaBridge didn't give me much anything and didn't answer any of my questions at all, they prefered me to call them over the phone. Bluejeans kept it simple. AudioQuest's rep gave me a long story on what his company's cables can do. I also wrote Monster last night and got an automated email back saying that they got my email, sort of like when you email your congressman and a electronic 'one size fits all' reponse to the masses is sent out. Maybe a Monster rep will write me back, we'll see, I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

    I didn't know there was an across the board law or unwritten rule among companies that they all email you back with the same or even similar response? I can email 100 different companies that make the same product and get back 100 different responses and each one could pick and choose which questions to answer and which ones not to answer. If you want to question the validity of my claims with their different responses to my questions that is pretty naive and ignorant and is a pretty juvenile way to decide what is true and what isn't. I backed up my claims and the Mediabridge rep that contracted me didn't leave his name. AudioQuest's rep did.

    When it comes to snow, he spends more energy and time trying to win an argument on a website and making it sound fancy and intellectual than he does educating himself in the real world on important things and all he can do is act like some ay queeny prissy closet case who has a chip on his shoulder

    (As I hear snow off in the distant hillside with his glorious passionate yell: "I'M HARVEY MILK AND I'M HERE TO RECRUIT YOU!!"
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,605
    edited April 2009
    And once again, we understand that a $400 short HMDI cable is waaaay overkill.
    You can stop now. Unless you're doing a long run, no need for the good stuff.
    Kinda like running cat. 6 cable if all you're going to do is 100 MB
    ethernet. And yes, for analog AQ is pretty good stuff. Can we stop now.
    Or I'll start posting half naked fat girls until the mod locks the thread!
    And I mean it!
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  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited April 2009
    snow wrote: »
    You expect me or anyone else here to believe that you wrote an email to audioquest stating that there HDMI cables were overpriced and that no cables should be more than X amount and the response you got was simply what was posted here?


    Also you obviously included what Audioquest wrote to you in your email to BJC not just the supposed original email quote to all 3 companies as stated earlier. even a blind man could see this in there response to you. this is part of there response

    (I can sell you a BJC Series-F2 cable that is certified for 1080p signal in both Category 1 and Category 2 at that distance, but there is no testing/certification for resolutions higher than 1080p, so I couldn't guarantee it.

    A good question for this company would be what is actually guaranteed. If they simply take the cable back for a refund, I would be wary of their business practices. The resolutions they are talking about won't exist for years to come, so be sure to hang onto your receipt... )



    I stand by my original statement you sir are both a liar and a fool!!!! Refer to post #17



    SNOW

    Since when do you speak for anyone else on this forum or in your boring non-existant life that doesn't exist outside this website little fella? You seem to take this website and your percieved job of being some sort of forum moderator and truth seeker a little to serious and extreme and when someone comes along to challenge your thought and the consensus around here you get all prissy and protective of this forum.

    I have nothing to prove to you and if "YOU" don't believe me then I could care less and I'm not losing any sleep over it and I'll just keep sitting back smiling. (uh ohh, I think there's a heated debated going on down the hall on the Electronics thread, you better go run over there and give them your intellectual Harvard professor rant, take your boyfriends here with you too.) lol
  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited April 2009
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    And once again, we understand that a $400 short HMDI cable is waaaay overkill.
    You can stop now. Unless you're doing a long run, no need for the good stuff.
    Kinda like running cat. 6 cable if all you're going to do is 100 MB
    ethernet. And yes, for analog AQ is pretty good stuff. Can we stop now.
    Or I'll start posting half naked fat girls until the mod locks the thread!
    And I mean it!

    I 100% agree with you on the HDMI cables and the long run distance.

    The debate has now centered around not on HDMI cable quality but on the validity of my emails to the wire companies and whether or not I sent them all the same questions because they think that the different responses I got back is not the rule of law among companies that respond to emails. The only company I added on an extra question to was to Monster about their "Bluray HDMI wire" they colored blue, it was one extra sentence. snow wants to waste time and whine and nitpick over the validity of my emails.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited April 2009
    No body cares (except for the fraud) about your emails. We all know this is an extension of the "puppies" thread and your attempt to gain credibility.
  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited April 2009
    No body cares (except for the fraud) about your emails. We all know this is an extension of the "puppies" thread and your attempt to gain credibility.

    Well yes, I do agree and thank you for your support, because the frauds and puppies around here that I have to deal with is taxing on me. I feel like Meryl Streep's character in 'Doubt'
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited April 2009
    Make sure it's THX certified........that makes it better ;).
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited April 2009
    Digititalvideo...
    I'd appreciate it if you stopped with the thinly veiled homophobia.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited April 2009

    When it comes to snow, he spends more energy and time trying to win an argument on a website and making it sound fancy and intellectual than he does educating himself in the real world on important things and all he can do is act like some ay queeny prissy closet case who has a chip on his shoulder

    (As I hear snow off in the distant hillside with his glorious passionate yell: "I'M HARVEY MILK AND I'M HERE TO RECRUIT YOU!!"
    Interesting to see you think that emailing companies about there pricing structure is educating yourself in the real world on important things.
    Since when do you speak for anyone else on this forum or in your boring non-existant life that doesn't exist outside this website little fella? You seem to take this website and your percieved job of being some sort of forum moderator and truth seeker a little to serious and extreme and when someone comes along to challenge your thought and the consensus around here you get all prissy and protective of this forum.

    I have nothing to prove to you and if "YOU" don't believe me then I could care less and I'm not losing any sleep over it and I'll just keep sitting back smiling. (uh ohh, I think there's a heated debated going on down the hall on the Electronics thread, you better go run over there and give them your intellectual Harvard professor rant, take your boyfriends here with you too.) lol
    Little fella? Lmaoooo there is nothing about me that is little. And no I dont perceive myself as a forum moderator. Truth seeker? perhaps. Queeny Prissy closet case and take my boyfriends with me? Do you have a problem with **** or Lesbians? And no im not **** and to be truthful I could care less what other peoples sexual orientation is, that is there business and right to choose whoever they want as long as it's legal and doesnt involve minors or animals that cant choose for themselves.

    Your simply pissed that I pointed out the fact that you lied about your emails and now are acting like a spoiled little kid throwing a temper tantrum. :D



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2009
    shack wrote: »
    After over 40 years of messing around with this audio hobby...I am so thankful that these guys have shown up to enlighten me about the error of my ways when it comes to this stuff. Their information discovered through countless minutes of internet seaching has truly opened my eyes and will now allow me to totally disregard everything I have ever experienced over the years (audio wise of course). Every one of you should offer them a hearty "atta boy" and place the in the anals of audio. I know I will.

    I just set fire to my house....screw it, audio was simply all BS.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited April 2009
    Funny, they never mention wires on the atv forums...hmm
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  • jkacura39
    jkacura39 Posts: 68
    edited April 2009
    snow wrote: »

    Your simply pissed that I pointed out the fact that you lied about your emails and now are acting like a spoiled little kid throwing a temper tantrum. :D



    REGARDS SNOW


    I agree with SNOW. I think if what you accused him of was indeed false as he proclaims, i doubt he would be putting up such a fight. my opinion would prolly be "believe me or not i dont really care". which his is very aggresive. As far as the questions/responses from the companies, its not that their answers dont match each other, its that none of there answers seem to match your questions really. i think that is were the doubt LIES.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited April 2009
    Maybe we need a new sub-forum called "Thinking inside the box" where we can discuss things that we already know to be true. We could feature thread topics like: "Orange crayons don't taste like an Orange" or some such....:rolleyes: Or, we could contend that the world is indeed flat, since none of us have ever been in space to verify it first hand.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2009
    dorokusai wrote:
    I just set fire to my house....screw it, audio was simply all BS.

    You do whatever you have to do. It's a shame though...It was a really nice house too.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2009
    Once again, these types of things are for the people who like to brag about how expensive their stuff is. They feel better knowing that they have a... ...cable with a fancy looking connector on it that says...
    Humm, sounds familiar!??! ;)
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited April 2009
    If you think that all companies have the same response methods and criteria you must never email any companies. MediaBridge didn't give me much anything and didn't answer any of my questions at all, they prefered me to call them over the phone. Bluejeans kept it simple. AudioQuest's rep gave me a long story on what his company's cables can do. I also wrote Monster last night and got an automated email back saying that they got my email, sort of like when you email your congressman and a electronic 'one size fits all' reponse to the masses is sent out. Maybe a Monster rep will write me back, we'll see, I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

    I didn't know there was an across the board law or unwritten rule among companies that they all email you back with the same or even similar response? I can email 100 different companies that make the same product and get back 100 different responses and each one could pick and choose which questions to answer and which ones not to answer. If you want to question the validity of my claims with their different responses to my questions that is pretty naive and ignorant and is a pretty juvenile way to decide what is true and what isn't. I backed up my claims and the Mediabridge rep that contracted me didn't leave his name. AudioQuest's rep did.

    When it comes to snow, he spends more energy and time trying to win an argument on a website and making it sound fancy and intellectual than he does educating himself in the real world on important things and all he can do is act like some ay queeny prissy closet case who has a chip on his shoulder

    (As I hear snow off in the distant hillside with his glorious passionate yell: "I'M HARVEY MILK AND I'M HERE TO RECRUIT YOU!!"

    Did you even read my post? None of what you just said here even has anything to do with anything that I said in that post.

    The point is, that some of those responses answered questions that you apparently didn't even ask. At least according to the post you made that contained your original question, which was supposed to have been the same to each company. Each companies response contained answers to completely different question.

    I still don't see what the purpose of this thread is. We are all well aware of the fact that 400 dollar HDMI cables are a rip off. Remind me...what exactly is it that you're trying to prove here? Some more pot stirring? You should just leave now if this is all you plan on doing on this forum.

    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    Humm, sounds familiar!??! ;)

    Sounds familiar? What? I don't understand this post.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2009
    Actually I did write them and posted exactly what I said in the email. Again, contact



    if you don't believe me. Notice how your only response is to just deny it and not even give the guy a call. I remember when I posted the thread about the Crutchfield rep saying the Pioneer plasmas are the best tv's, people over there demanded I post the rep's name. Well now that I posted the reps name for this thread you're still in denial hahahahaha some people just hate facts and no matter how much proof you give them they want to stay ignorant and close minded. How old are you by the way? I feel like I'm going back and forth with my 8 year old cousin.
    digitalvideo, while I am very aware and agree with you with the cable business, I'd like to know what exactly is that you are trying to prove or what the purpose of your thread is?

    1. Trying to convince people? Maybe a few but the fact is people have minds of their own!

    2. Trying to prove that you are right? Some may strongly agree while some may strongly disagree!

    3. Try confront those companies and possibly take some down? Frankly neither you or I and most Polkies here do not have the knowledge and/or power to achieve such?

    4. Keep alive the eternal pattern of cable YA sayer against the NAY sayer so another thread could joyfully get a round of cursing, bashing and name calling?

    Just thinking outloud here, you started with some findings which could be legitimate and for which in this free world you are aloud to voice your own way but suddenly you seemed to joyfully jumped into the name calling and disrespect... Just thinking outloud here before I resume reading the daily story/turmoil of where this thread seem to be going again. Is this thread round x of God knows how many more to come before the final punch?

    The only win/win situation in such thread, is to agree to disagree. I agree with you that spending extravagant money on a digital cable is futile but... I agree with people who disagree with my statement or with other posters. As a simple Club Polk Member, none of us has anything to prove or nor the ability to do so. State the findings of your research but no need to go at war with this as so far none of the CSR proves anything either and they will definitely make sure it remains as is!

    Cheers :)
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2009
    Lasareath wrote: »
    HDMI What?

    I haven't used one yet!

    Component all the way baby!
    In many case still the best option but... not for full HD and matter of fact, how would a BluRay player respond with component versus HDMI, how about the content protection which is part of the cable? I am going in question form since I do not own a BluRay player but was in the impression that full HD signal couldn't be accomplished... am I correct or wrong?
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2009
    ;)Gawd,,, I love how you guys "multi quote" please tell,, how do you do that?
    strider wrote: »
    It's the little square button next to the quote button in the lower right hand of each post. You'd click it to quote each post all the way until the last post you wish to quote, then you hit the quote button.

    For example, say you wanted to quote posts 3, 4, 5, and 8. You'd hit the multi quote icon in posts 3, 4, and 5, and in post 8 you'd hit the quote button. You can even quote a post in one thread and bring it into another.
    Thanks strider, we learn every day, never too old too learn, I am glad I've at least learned something out of one of those vicious cable thread ;)
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2009
    shack wrote: »
    After over 40 years of messing around with this audio hobby...I am so thankful that these guys have shown up to enlighten me about the error of my ways when it comes to this stuff. Their information discovered through countless minutes of internet seaching has truly opened my eyes and will now allow me to totally disregard everything I have ever experienced over the years (audio wise of course). Every one of you should offer them a hearty "atta boy" and place the in the anals of audio. I know I will.
    Hummm, 25 years, 30 years, now "qui dit mieux?", seems like some people started in the hobby even while in diapers! I have to admit never was I ever that early (precocious) ;)
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2009
    Expect the fire ants to head out of their nests.
    Classic erroneous analogies by an 'audiophile'. Some just don't get it.
    Keiko wrote: »
    Interesting analogy considering the swarm of ****$h0L3s and their shenanigans this forum has endured recently.
    Man, you got what you called for; you called for the DEVIL and he is now virtually loose and out of the box ;) His master will surely show-up again and get him to say YE YE YE blindly to all is affirmations no matter how intelligent they are:rolleyes: GO KEIKO GO, GO with the FLOW as a nice obedient ant that you are :p
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2009
    AudioQuest's rep gave me a long story on what his company's cables can do.
    Typical agressive salemen, don't care/hear what you are saying/think, simply wants you to think is way = sale ;)
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited April 2009
    Where did all these **** come from? And why is people even posting in these threads? Unless you enjoy this endless stupid discussion, don't feed the trolls.

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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2009
    Sounds familiar? What? I don't understand this post.
    Sorry, must be my CDN French humor ;) Just look how I conveniently salvaged your quote ;)
    Originally Posted by comfortablycurt
    Once again, these types of things are for the people who like to brag about how expensive their stuff is. They feel better knowing that they have a... ...cable with a fancy looking connector on it that says...

    Cheers :)
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  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited April 2009
    snow wrote: »
    Interesting to see you think that emailing companies about there pricing structure is educating yourself in the real world on important things.

    Little fella? Lmaoooo there is nothing about me that is little. And no I dont perceive myself as a forum moderator. Truth seeker? perhaps. Queeny Prissy closet case and take my boyfriends with me? Do you have a problem with **** or Lesbians? And no im not **** and to be truthful I could care less what other peoples sexual orientation is, that is there business and right to choose whoever they want as long as it's legal and doesnt involve minors or animals that cant choose for themselves.

    Your simply pissed that I pointed out the fact that you lied about your emails and now are acting like a spoiled little kid throwing a temper tantrum. :D



    REGARDS SNOW

    snow white has spoken, oh come out of the closet will ya? lol Now it's not me who this forum refers to as "fraud" because you are a fraud and you've never once proven me wrong and you can't counter my facts after I posted proof so you respond back with your nonsense. Nothing you counter me on is of facts, it's just intellectual dishonesty, you think the more you say and the fancier you articulate it that you will be taken more seriously but you end up making youself look more like the "fraud" you are. Now little fella, put your hand down, and you may now respond.

    I hope you enjoyed your day inside behind the computer getting into internet fights with the countless others online you fight with, oh I know it's not just me. lol
  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,794
    edited April 2009
    The fraud and trouble maker is back at it again.
    I'm a fraud. When are y'all gonna bash me?