The sound of voices

royalty
royalty Posts: 246
edited April 2009 in Troubleshooting
Ok so I have a onyko sr 706 receiver hooked up to a cs2 center channel, some monitor 50s for the fronts, and some monitor 30s for the surrounds. Heres the problem, when I watch TV, people's voices sound okay (maybe no perfect, but okay). However, when I put in a blu-ray and watch it, the voices sound kind of boxy. There is something that is just not right with the sound for their voices. I turned down the bass on the center channel to try and fix this but it seems it didnt really help. Perhaps its more in the midrange area, I am not sure. So is my problem with the speaker or the setup or what?
-By the way, everything else sounds absolutely great with the other speakers and movie noise.
-thanks
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Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
Speakers:
Center: CSi5
Fronts: rti10s
Rears: monitor 50s
psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited March 2009
    What's your system signature?
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  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited March 2009
    Im sorry, but I have no idea what your asking?
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
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    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

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  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited March 2009
    is this it?
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    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited March 2009
    Sorry, what equipment is in your system? This might help identify the problem. What are your interconnects? Give us an idea of what you got.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited March 2009
    yup that's it. Now how are the speakers angled towards you. What connections are you using.
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  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited March 2009
    Well im using some regular nothing special 14 guage speakers wire from circuit city to connect everything if thats what interconnects are.
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

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  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited March 2009
    the center channel is facing towards me sitting on the tv stand and the monitors are pointed forward freestanding on the floor.
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    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited March 2009
    those are speakers cables. How is the Blu-Ray player connected to the Received?
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited March 2009
    Is the center channel at ear level?
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  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited March 2009
    I would say it is a little lower than ear level
    HOME AUDIO:
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    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

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  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited March 2009
    Anybody have any ideas?
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    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

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  • zarrdoss
    zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
    edited March 2009
    are you remembering to turn the tv volume down all the way or mute it? mine is boxy sounding when I forget
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  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited March 2009
    Of course! The speakers on my TV are probably the worst speakers ever conceived..haha
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

    CAR AUDIO
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  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited March 2009
    If it seems like I am hearing only boxy, booming voices, does anyone think this could be a tweeter problem?
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

    CAR AUDIO
    Infinity 6032CF's all around
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  • zarrdoss
    zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
    edited March 2009
    seems like a tweeter or source problem to me, have you tried to hook up another speaker you know that works to the center output?
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  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited March 2009
    I have another one but its a really crappy sony center channel. I suppose this could still help me try to figure out the problem, thanks for the idea.
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

    CAR AUDIO
    Infinity 6032CF's all around
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  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited March 2009
    Ok so after trying some different options and testing some stuff, I believe the problem I am having is caused by a large amount of midbass boom. This is probably due to the acoustics of the room and area in which the speaker is placed. Due to the fact that I really do not have the option of moving this to a different angle or location, I think I am going to sell the cs2, and upgrade to a different center channel speaker with that small voice port in the front that is supposed to counteract this problem. I would like anyone's input on my proposal. Good or bad idea for my situation?
    --BTW, thanks for all the help this is a great forum!
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

    CAR AUDIO
    Infinity 6032CF's all around
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  • zarrdoss
    zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
    edited March 2009
    thats wierd, might be one of things where you just have to be there to help. Anyway my CS350LS sounds great and you can find them used for $100-$150
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  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited March 2009
    I have been looking at the CSi 5's on the polk ebay store. Anyone have good experience with these?
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

    CAR AUDIO
    Infinity 6032CF's all around
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  • TheMARPATNinja7
    TheMARPATNinja7 Posts: 150
    edited March 2009
    I have a CSi3 and have some of the same problems, I turned the treble setting on my AVR from +2 to 0 and that helped a little bit, still never solved the problems. I think there could be issues with the crossover on some of these cheaper Polk CCs, I'm not sure though. However I would wager that the problem is contained within your speaker and not any other wire/avr/other components.
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  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited March 2009
    I really dont think its caused by the tweeter being too loud or too bright. The sound is more like in the mid region. I dont know though, perhaps i am expecting perfection from a middle to lower end speaker. At any rate its not too bad. Its most likely just the **** acoustics of my room.
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

    CAR AUDIO
    Infinity 6032CF's all around
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  • dubradio
    dubradio Posts: 181
    edited March 2009
    Acoustics of a room can dramatically effect sound. However keep in mind you may or may not have and issue with the center channel it self. I would recommend the following.

    1. Make sure any EQ settings on the reciever are OFF or your reciever is in DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode

    2. What bluray player are you using? the answer to this question can yeild other possibilities.
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  • royalty
    royalty Posts: 246
    edited March 2009
    I am using the samsung BP-1500
    HOME AUDIO:
    Electronics:
    HK 354
    Front Power: CARVER TFM-35
    Center Power: Audiosource Amp One
    Speakers:
    Center: CSi5
    Fronts: rti10s
    Rears: monitor 50s
    psw 125 + psw 505 = BOOM

    CAR AUDIO
    Infinity 6032CF's all around
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited April 2009
    Have you tried going without the center? Set up the receiver as no center,and the voices will come from the left and right speaker.Give it a whirl,room accoustics can be a **** sometimes.
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited April 2009
    tonyb wrote: »
    Have you tried going without the center? Set up the receiver as no center,and the voices will come from the left and right speaker.Give it a whirl,room accoustics can be a **** sometimes.

    ++1
    I was just reading through to see if this were suggested yet. Definately try a Phantom center to rule out an issue with the actual center.
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