Flea Market sale crashers

steveinaz

If the shoe fits, wear it:

Stop telling people they are charging too much, and/or posting links to cheaper prices when someone is trying to sell something. It's ignorant, against posting rules, and bad form. I saw someone get reported over it today---BRAVO---that's exactly what should happen. Use a little mutual respect; would you want someone posting links to 4 other places they could find your item cheaper? Assinine, period. If you feel the price is too high, move the F on, nobody said you had to buy it.

This is happening alot lately---that isn't the way we roll on Club Polk, so get your **** together.

ViperZ

Exactly! Plus, if the person won't get many offers, they may figure out that the price may be too high anyway. It is assumed that the seller does their own research, and does not need any public comments like "umm, your price is too high". If you are so concerned with the sale and want to make a counter-offer (in case of 'best offer'), PM the seller.

phuz

This is strictly forbidden at another forum I frequent. When it happens, the offender gets "a day off" from the forum.

If it's too high, nobody will buy, and the price will drop naturally. Stomping on someone's sale is a **** thing to do (unless it's a newb or turdbucket trying to sell something )

AudioGenics

phuz wrote: »

This is strictly forbidden at another forum I frequent. When it happens, the offender gets "a day off" from the forum.

If it's too high, nobody will buy, and the price will drop naturally. Stomping on someone's sale is a **** thing to do (unless it's a newb or turdbucket trying to sell something )

When is a person no longer considered a newbie ?

steveinaz

Precisely--if it's priced too high, the add will die a slow death with no responses.

steveinaz

joseph.v.chen wrote: »

When is a person no longer considered a newbie ?

When they stop derailing threads.

Fongolio

joseph.v.chen wrote: »

When is a person no longer considered a newbie ?

When George Grand decrees it.;)

raidersrule76

So whats a newb have to do with selling something, If I dont have thousands of posts and do not spend every waking moment on this forum then I guess I must be scamming everyone when trying to sell something, thats the way I understand these comments that are being made about newbs lately. If Im wrong Im sure someone will be happy to interject.

steveinaz

I made no mention of any category of people in my original post.

ohskigod

raidersrule76 wrote: »

So whats a newb have to do with selling something, If I dont have thousands of posts and do not spend every waking moment on this forum then I guess I must be scamming everyone when trying to sell something, thats the way I understand these comments that are being made about newbs lately. If Im wrong Im sure someone will be happy to interject.

ok, thats it.

if you actually let what people write on a website bother you that much, then your life must ROCK!!!!

seriously, it's tax season, the economy is in the toilet. house prices are in freefall, there's war and genocide in Darfur, strife in the middle east, Iran is getting nukes like any day now.........should i go on? and your big worry, your planted flag in the discourse of life, is someone calling you a NEWB?

dude, volunteer and do something. Get a hobby, seek therapy, do SOMETHING, because your life HAS to be on the wrong track if your this worried about it.

I was called a newb about 832 times on various websites across the globe. did I care? no, why?.......self esteem baby, it's awesome.

Your're a newb until youre not a newb, so sayeth the internet gods. do you think thats only a club polk thing? seriously?


end rant


p.s. the Raiders do not rule...........not being facetious here, it's just the whole "years of a crappy record" thing can not be overlooked

dkg999

^^^^^ those are words to live by ^^^^^^

Jstas

ohskigod wrote: »

ok, thats it.

if you actually let what people write on a website bother you that much, then your life must ROCK!!!!

seriously, it's tax season, the economy is in the toilet. house prices are in freefall, there's war and genocide in Darfur, strife in the middle east, Iran is getting nukes like any day now.........should i go on? and your big worry, your planted flag in the discourse of life, is someone calling you a NEWB?

dude, volunteer and do something. Get a hobby, seek therapy, do SOMETHING, because your life HAS to be on the wrong track if your this worried about it.

I was called a newb about 832 times on various websites across the globe. did I care? no, why?.......self esteem baby, it's awesome.

Your're a newb until youre not a newb, so sayeth the internet gods. do you think thats only a club polk thing? seriously?


end rant


p.s. the Raiders do not rule...........not being facetious here, it's just the whole "years of a crappy record" thing can not be overlooked

Shut up, n00b. Nobody axed you!

BjornB17

You mean to say that I should be upset that someone crapped my sale thread with a link to ebay that had the same item for $5 cheaper?

Toolfan66

It's not about being a newbie, It's about being a man/woman, and having some respect. really how hard is it? a few peeps hear lately come on acting like this is jr high, and posting some dumb **** crap. yet they think they are a grown human being. The funny thing is i manage 52 guy's here in the shop, and i have a select few here with the same mentality.

phuz

You should probably not be so sensitive, or you will fail at the internets.

Everyone is a newb to me, because I invented the interwebs. It was my baby batter and a hot intern named Julie at DARPA that conceived it in the back seat of a 1972 Datsun.

I read your email too. Newb.

raidersrule76 wrote: »

So whats a newb have to do with selling something, If I dont have thousands of posts and do not spend every waking moment on this forum then I guess I must be scamming everyone when trying to sell something, thats the way I understand these comments that are being made about newbs lately. If Im wrong Im sure someone will be happy to interject.

Oh yeah this is a thread about stomping on sales! BOOOO! Stomping on someone else's ad is BAD! Naughty naughty ad stompers!

Toolfan66

+1 for ohskigod. I don't care about being a noob it means nothing to me, just gald to be here and have a nice system cause of it, and have some great ideas for a 2 channel. don't want to forget about the help i have been givin.

sucks2beme

raidersrule76 wrote: »

So whats a newb have to do with selling something, If I dont have thousands of posts and do not spend every waking moment on this forum then I guess I must be scamming everyone when trying to sell something, thats the way I understand these comments that are being made about newbs lately. If Im wrong Im sure someone will be happy to interject.

Yes, to a point. Too many show up here, drop 25 quick posts, and put
up something for sale. If you really have been doing "honest" posts
to ask questions and contribute, then being new is a different story.
The place is full of users with "25+1" posts. Then they drop off the face of
the earth.
Sales rules are simple, 25 posts. The custom is to give a description, price, and
hopefully pictures. Keep buyers well informed, do what you told them you
were going to do, and overpack the crap out of it to survive a run though the
Samsonite luggage gorillas. Not that hard to understand, but it seems to
beyond the grasp of many out there.

Fireman32

ohskigod wrote: »

ok, thats it.

if you actually let what people write on a website bother you that much, then your life must ROCK!!!!

seriously, it's tax season, the economy is in the toilet. house prices are in freefall, there's war and genocide in Darfur, strife in the middle east, Iran is getting nukes like any day now.........should i go on? and your big worry, your planted flag in the discourse of life, is someone calling you a NEWB?

dude, volunteer and do something. Get a hobby, seek therapy, do SOMETHING, because your life HAS to be on the wrong track if your this worried about it.

I was called a newb about 832 times on various websites across the globe. did I care? no, why?.......self esteem baby, it's awesome.

Your're a newb until youre not a newb, so sayeth the internet gods. do you think thats only a club polk thing? seriously?


end rant


p.s. the Raiders do not rule...........not being facetious here, it's just the whole "years of a crappy record" thing can not be overlooked

Well said Lou

steveinaz

BjornB17 wrote: »

You mean to say that I should be upset that someone crapped my sale thread with a link to ebay that had the same item for $5 cheaper?

Report their **** next time.

heiney9

raidersrule76 wrote: »

So whats a newb have to do with selling something, If I dont have thousands of posts and do not spend every waking moment on this forum then I guess I must be scamming everyone when trying to sell something, thats the way I understand these comments that are being made about newbs lately. If Im wrong Im sure someone will be happy to interject.

Do you know what "Thread Crapping" is? It has nothing to do with ripping anyone off or a post count. Did you even read Steve's first post.

Goddamn there are some clueless people who whine a lot lately. Has someone accused you of being a scammer with something you have FS? If not, then STFU and read. This post has NOTHING to do with what you are implying...........unless of course you have a guilty conscience.

H9

Motzart

sucks2beme wrote: »

Yes, to a point. Too many show up here, drop 25 quick posts, and put
up something for sale. If you really have been doing "honest" posts
to ask questions and contribute, then being new is a different story.
The place is full of users with "25+1" posts. Then they drop off the face of
the earth.

Agree there!

Dunno what pisses me off more......
PPL listing posts just to sell or damn Newbies bringing up old Forsale posts?

Your scanning the Forsale area thinking the header is from a new listing....till ya open the thread.
OOOO I'll take XXXXX and the damn post is from 2006 or the like!! :mad:


My God......In this day and age can people read???

thsmith

God, I am glad it is not just me.

Noob wannabe:eek:

BjornB17

steveinaz wrote: »

Report their **** next time.

I decided to instead keep what i was selling (pair of RTi6). now i have a nice 4.0 RTi4/RTi6 setup on my PC in addition to the system in my sig. I'm happy i didn't sell them for less than they were worth.... but you are right, next time i should report it.

Kex

This happened to me on the Emotiva forum, many moons ago, right after a posted my comments about the listening test I conducted comparing the Ultra Theater Combo (LMC-1 & LPA-1) to my lowly harman/kardon AVR147. I put the darn things up for sale on the Emotiva forum, since they're supposed to be so great (glowing audioholics review, members stating how they smoke everything in sight at two or three times the price ... bla bla bla ...) and they were out of stock too, so not available for purchase new. Well, you would think this might please Emotiva (avoiding a return of an open box item) but some dung heap, who obviously thought he was defending Emotiva's honor or something, poops the thread, as an anonymous guest, no less, saying they had read my review on the Polk forum and that I obviously expected Krell performance.

I responded by deleting that thread, and starting another, which also got pooped immediately by an anonymous guest, so - rather irate at this point, and thinking it was never going to end - I replied thus:

You seem to offer a lot of advice as an anonymous guest! Thread pooping in the Emporium is very poor form, and shows just what kind of person you must be. Get a life dude, and sign in if you're gonna thread ****.

And guess what? I got treated to a public rebuke, in the same sale thread, from the venerable Dann G. himself (senior staff member), telling me to "play nice"! Well "hey!", thought I, "what about the other guy dude?!", and how come anonymous guests can **** the Emporium sale threads anyway?

Anyway, I finally got rid of the Emotiva gear, so "whatever!" as the saying goes, and deleted my "offending" post, which had drawn the wrath of the administrators (rather than just deleting the other guy's post, for instance).

The funny thing is, they had this "karma" thing going then, whereby members could add or delete karma points for other members. My karma immediately got reduced to nada, then boosted again by a few fellow Polkies over there, who PM'ed me that they had noticed my sad fate, and were compensating accordingly, and then finally got propelled into the stratosphere by anonymous donors, even though I wasn't contributing any more! I guess somebody must have liked my review!

Anyway, quite an experience, on the whole, but I do much prefer the orderly conduct generally witnessed in the Club Polk Flea Market.

AndyGwis

Reporting is less cool than thread crapping, FS dumping, and post shitting combined

I only comment on someone's price if the seller asks "why is this not selling, is my price too high?" Sometimes people need pricing guidance, but, yes, too often people give their opinion when it hasn't been asked for and isn't welcomed.

This happens on Audiogon, too, but usually from potential buyers. Guys that throw out a "I saw one of these go for <insert ridiculously low number here> on eBay once, will you match that price?" But, they forget to consider it's eBay, where anything can and does happen, the seller had no feedback, they had bad pictures, the gear was cracked up, no original box, manual, etc.

Basically, selling gear is a hassle and in this market you have to give stuff away to sell it. Guess that's what we get for having a capitalistic market. But, if slow high end audio sales is your biggest concern, life is pretty good

dorokusai

sucks2beme wrote: »

Yes, to a point. Too many show up here, drop 25 quick posts, and put
up something for sale. If you really have been doing "honest" posts
to ask questions and contribute, then being new is a different story.
The place is full of users with "25+1" posts. Then they drop off the face of
the earth.
Sales rules are simple, 25 posts. The custom is to give a description, price, and
hopefully pictures. Keep buyers well informed, do what you told them you
were going to do, and overpack the crap out of it to survive a run though the
Samsonite luggage gorillas. Not that hard to understand, but it seems to
beyond the grasp of many out there.

You do realize that not everyone cares to participate for years, months or even weeks on a given forum right? I know we think this is the coolest place ever but it's just another forum to most people.

The blatant posting to get count up is irritating but why are some of you so consumed with responsibility and "obligation"? If I'm not mistaken, most of the recent bad deals in the Flea Market were from known members, not new ones. Do what you want, as I care less and less each day it seems.

JohnLocke88

BjornB17 wrote: »

I decided to instead keep what i was selling (pair of RTi6). now i have a nice 4.0 RTi4/RTi6 setup on my PC in addition to the system in my sig. I'm happy i didn't sell them for less than they were worth.... but you are right, next time i should report it.

what they are worth is what someone would have paid for them. If they are worth more to you than what you were offered then you made the right choice to keep them. However fair market value is fair market value.

raidersrule76

phuz wrote: »

This is strictly forbidden at another forum I frequent. When it happens, the offender gets "a day off" from the forum.

If it's too high, nobody will buy, and the price will drop naturally. Stomping on someone's sale is a **** thing to do (unless it's a newb or turdbucket trying to sell something )

THIS is what I was commenting on!!!! Sorry to upset everyone.
Maybe I should go post in the apology thread now

raidersrule76

ohskigod wrote: »

ok, thats it.

if you actually let what people write on a website bother you that much, then your life must ROCK!!!!

seriously, it's tax season, the economy is in the toilet. house prices are in freefall, there's war and genocide in Darfur, strife in the middle east, Iran is getting nukes like any day now.........should i go on? and your big worry, your planted flag in the discourse of life, is someone calling you a NEWB?

dude, volunteer and do something. Get a hobby, seek therapy, do SOMETHING, because your life HAS to be on the wrong track if your this worried about it.

I was called a newb about 832 times on various websites across the globe. did I care? no, why?.......self esteem baby, it's awesome.

Your're a newb until youre not a newb, so sayeth the internet gods. do you think thats only a club polk thing? seriously?


end rant


p.s. the Raiders do not rule...........not being facetious here, it's just the whole "years of a crappy record" thing can not be overlooked

And yes I konw the Raiders suck right now and have for the past years, but Im hopefully optamistic that some day It might turn around. I mean if the cardinals can make it to the superbowl can't anyone?

sucks2beme

dorokusai wrote: »

You do realize that not everyone cares to participate for years, months or even weeks on a given forum right? I know we think this is the coolest place ever but it's just another forum to most people.

The blatant posting to get count up is irritating but why are some of you so consumed with responsibility and "obligation"? If I'm not mistaken, most of the recent bad deals in the Flea Market were from known members, not new ones. Do what you want, as I care less and less each day it seems.

It seems to have become a drive through pawn shop as of late.
And more than a few drive by cellphone postings. Whatever. I'm
just waiting for Russman to post something new for me to buy.:D

Motzart

steveinaz wrote: »

If the shoe fits, wear it:

Stop telling people they are charging too much, and/or posting links to cheaper prices when someone is trying to sell something. It's ignorant, against posting rules, and bad form. I saw someone get reported over it today---BRAVO---that's exactly what should happen. Use a little mutual respect; would you want someone posting links to 4 other places they could find your item cheaper? Assinine, period. If you feel the price is too high, move the F on, nobody said you had to buy it.

This is happening alot lately---that isn't the way we roll on Club Polk, so get your **** together.

I fully agree!
If you think the persons price is too high either pass posting to it till the person decides to lower the price or.....
Take it up with that person in a PM NOT OUT IN PUBLIC.
(This would be proper edicate no matter what Forum your on)
Also when done in a PM don't be nasty about it just include a link to the lower priced item to make em aware of it.
A person is entitled to sell the stuff at whatever price they want....after all it is theirs and they did pay for it....well we hope so anyway!