Broken hearted --broken VTL mono

george daniel
george daniel Posts: 12,096
edited May 2009 in The Clubhouse
Pretty much says it all.Seller packed both amps in one box,,I'm crying here,,as I've been waiting on these for a month,, broken fuse,fuse cap, power switch,faceplate ding. Eh,, just venting my frustration and disappointment.A'gon seller should know better,,let's see what they do to make me happy.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    Ouch! Sorry about your bad luck...Hopefully the seller will make things right.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited February 2009
    Uh-oh.............
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited February 2009
    Oh no! :eek: What Idiot would pack two tube amps in the same box ? The seller should give you a full refund....WCW III
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  • fossy
    fossy Posts: 1,378
    edited February 2009
    that's just plain abuse... good lord .... hope the seller takes care of it...
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2009
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Uh-oh.............

    Not to worry,, this setback will not hold up your shipment.;)
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2009
    W WALDECKER wrote: »
    Oh no! :eek: What Idiot would pack two tube amps in the same box ? The seller should give you a full refund....WCW III

    I'll go nationwide if they do not make it right:)

    E-mailed them,, nothing yet,, hopefully it's just the switch that needs replacing,,I'll keep em' but it's gonna cost something for the faceplate nick.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited February 2009
    I feel your pain George....(been there) :mad:

    If you are going to sell and ship audio gear...

    LEARN HOW TO PACK IT RIGHT! NOT HALF-****!
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited February 2009
    Probably only saved him $15-20 doing the idiotic one box shipping. Gonna cost em now fo sho.

    SUX!!!!
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2009
    W WALDECKER wrote: »
    Oh no! :eek: What Idiot would pack two tube amps in the same box ? The seller should give you a full refund....WCW III

    I've shipped monoblocks in a single box before....but I'm a pro. Sorry to see those pics GD.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited February 2009
    The UPS guy was wearing white gloves when he delivered my ARC pre I bought from Mark!
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited February 2009
    Sorry to hear that George. What a stupid way to damage an amplifier.

    Hope the seller does the right thing.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,460
    edited February 2009
    I don't blame you for being broken hearted. Hopefully you won't have to break out the ball peen hammer.
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited February 2009
    Hoping the seller or the carrier will make this right...I always cringe a little when I buy something used and the seller no longer has the original packing material.

    Best of luck to ya.
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited February 2009
    Hope the seller steps up.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited February 2009
    Hope you get satisfaction George. Some people just do not think when it comes to shipping.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2009
    Thanks guys,, well being the impatient person that I am,, I pulled out the glasses and hemostats and performed some surgery on the switch,,I don't think that I'll ever leave EL-34's,,the detail and sweetness calls me back to the days of Hendrix,The Who,and others,as they used EL 34's in their amps for the music that I grew up with.The pic's ain't pretty,but at least I'm listening to them.

    AH,, tube sweetness


    BTW,, Odyssey mono's will most likely be culled.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited February 2009
    george daniel wrote: »
    BTW,, Odyssey mono's will most likely be culled.
    Well, I pretty much figured that. Enjoy your sonic bliss George!

    Tubes Rule.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,482
    edited February 2009
    Makes you wonder what, or if, people are thinking at all. Sorry to see this George. You deserve better, and some cash back. Glad you are enjoying them.
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited February 2009
    george daniel wrote: »
    Thanks guys,, well being the impatient person that I am,, I pulled out the glasses and hemostats and performed some surgery on the switch,,I don't think that I'll ever leave EL-34's,,the detail and sweetness calls me back to the days of Hendrix,The Who,and others,as they used EL 34's in their amps for the music that I grew up with.The pic's ain't pretty,but at least I'm listening to them.

    AH,, tube sweetness


    BTW,, Odyssey mono's will most likely be culled.
    ;) As soon as i started playing with tube power amps my Mono SE's started collecting dust and i eventually sold them.David Manley designed great tube amps that were fast and musical with a good bottom end that has balls. There is nothing soft or wimpy about the earlier VTL tube Amps.Our tastes in gear are similar and i love my MB-100's so i had no problem recommending that you go for the VTL compact 100's when you asked for my opinion.Little did i know that a seller with good feedback and running a professional Audio webstore would be careless enough to ship these fairly rare beauties in such an unprofessional manner.If these guys dont make it right i will post it on every audio board that i can think of :mad: .Thanks....WCW III
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2009
    WCW,, thats exactly what I plan to do if I can't get any satisfaction,, hmmm,,so far,I've e-mailed pic's, X3,, voice mailed this morning,,maybe I'll hear something soon. I just want them to make it right.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    Bummer George! I hope you get some moola back on that purchase.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited February 2009
    george daniel wrote: »
    AH,, tube sweetness

    BTW,, Odyssey mono's will most likely be culled.

    Grab some tubes, you SS sissies!!!!!:eek:
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    Early B. wrote: »
    Grab some tubes, you SS sissies!!!!!:eek:

    Uh oh, I sense a reply from Ms. Frizz.;)
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited February 2009
    Clad to hear you got thing rolling George. Congrats on the tubes.

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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited February 2009
    The Girls are lookin' good george...I'm sure they are sounding even better.

    It's a shame one of them has a hairlip,maybe a little cosmedic surgery is in order:D
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2009
    Mike Reeter wrote: »
    The Girls are lookin' good george...I'm sure they are sounding even better.

    It's a shame one of them has a hairlip,maybe a little cosmedic surgery is in order:D

    Mike,, now that made me laugh,, I needed that--thanks:)
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited February 2009
    All will come around my friend...
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2009
    Here's the reply,,, maybe it's just me,, but when do you pack two mono amps in the same box,bubble wrapped and seperated by styrofoam,is that right???, this reply is from the owner of Mss Hi ZFi,, formerly JB Audio,, or something like that,kinda sux.



    "We are not responsible for shipping damage, as per our return and sales policy. We will file a claim with Fedex on Monday.



    VTL is a mom and pop shop. Service support is long and mediocre. This is an all-tube design, which means any qualified technician can easily work on it. We have service technicians who can work on this better and faster than VTL."

    How does it go,,, Buyer beware,, my reply was for him to put himself in my place and do the right thing.

    Lesson learned.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited February 2009
    Recently, I also had a lackluster experience with them. I wonder if the name change was also a change in ownership/management.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2009
    Face wrote: »
    Recently, I also had a lackluster experience with them. I wonder if the name change was also a change in ownership/management.

    I think so,, anyway, he seems to take no responsibility for his packing clowns, it'll come back to him,,sooner or later.:mad:
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