SRS 1.2 TL bested by Cerwin Vs !!!

gdb
gdb Posts: 6,012
edited February 2009 in Vintage Speakers
This guy cracked me up when he stated that the 1.2TLs didn't "blow me away" and his sig shows his speakers are all CVs!! I'd guess that he's just not used to good sound from good speakers.:rolleyes:

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=187792&page=4
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    CV's are good for pressurizing the hell out of a room, and that's about it. The SQ just isn't there.

    I don't really have any SDA experience, but to be fair, from what I've gathered they are sort of a speaker where you either like it or you don't. Some people don't really like the SDA effect, and prefer a more forward sounding speaker.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2009
    comfortablycurt wrote: »
    I don't really have any SDA experience, but to be fair, from what I've gathered they are sort of a speaker where you either like it or you don't. Some people don't really like the SDA effect, and prefer a more forward sounding speaker.

    Dude you need to get your ears on some. There are plenty of Polkies in your area that have SDA's;) Anyone who has heard SDA's setup, and driven properly will enjoy them.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Dude you need to get your ears on some. There are plenty of Polkies in your area that have SDA's;) Anyone who has heard SDA's setup, and driven properly will enjoy them.
    Ben

    I heard a pair of SDA 1C's once not to long ago...but that was only briefly, and I didn't really get to do any real intent listening on them.

    There should be a RAS meeting coming up before to long though...so I'll be able to get my ears on a few different pairs, and do some really intent listening.

    I have heard from numerous people that they didn't really like the SDA effect though. It's possible that they weren't being driven by proper equipment...or any one of a number of other factors though.
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2009
    All it takes is 10 seconds of listening to my SDA-1Cs and you know instantly they are something special.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited February 2009
    250 clean Carver watts into my SRS2s produced a sound so good I wanted to "smack my momma"!! Power,room & set-up are critical IMO when it comes to getting SDAs to sound "RIGHT" !! As always, your ears and mileage may vary.:D
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  • John30_30
    John30_30 Posts: 1,024
    edited February 2009
    FATWA! FATWA! He has insulted Polkistan's holiest of holies!

    THROW YOUR BOSES AT THIS WRETCH!


    :D
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,133
    edited February 2009
    Once I heard the true SDA effect in the sweet spot...

    I sold all my gear and got 2 pair of them.

    Still trying to find a nice amp to push the ones in my H/T.

    I had 3 pair of Vega's over the years, and they do produce great bass.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2009
    Conradicles wrote: »
    Once I heard the true SDA effect in the sweet spot...

    I sold all my gear and got 2 pair of them.

    Still trying to find a nice amp to push the ones in my H/T.

    I had 3 pair of Vega's over the years, and they do produce great bass.

    I never heard the Vegas but the bass produced by my 1.2 TLs is hard to beat. They dig very very deep and that grooooowl oh that groooowl especially on the big string instruments is goosebump material.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2009
    I've yet to hear anything special from an SDA in regards to bass response. The SRT sure....but still not amazing.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2009
    Conradicles wrote: »
    Once I heard the true SDA effect in the sweet spot...

    I sold all my gear and got 2 pair of them.

    Still trying to find a nice amp to push the ones in my H/T.

    I had 3 pair of Vega's over the years, and they do produce great bass.

    Conradicles, I really like the sound with my Carver TFM-45 using my Denon AVR as a pre
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,133
    edited February 2009
    Carver is on my list. I am about to pull the trigger on a new amp today or in the next couple of days.

    The bass my SDA-2B's produce is amazing when properly placed in the room. Hard to believe those little 6.5" woofers can do that!
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited February 2009
    Don't forget that the passive......>>>>radiates<<<< !!!:D (bass that is)
    ^^^^^
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,746
    edited February 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I've yet to hear anything special from an SDA in regards to bass response.

    Now, that's some funny stuff.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2009
    Sorry man, not everyone revolves around that baseline. Enjoy!
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited February 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I've yet to hear anything special from an SDA in regards to bass response.
    F1nut wrote: »
    Now, that's some funny stuff.
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    I never heard the Vegas but the bass produced by my 1.2 TLs is hard to beat. They dig very very deep and that grooooowl oh that groooowl especially on the big string instruments is goosebump material.

    I can remember what my SDA SRS 1.2TL's sounded like in their pre-tweaked form. The bass was as good as any other speaker in their price range, but it was nothing special. The magic only came after extensive modifications. Proper amplification helped a lot too.

    If you are a hardcore SDA cultist with extensively modified SDA's, I'd like you to think hard and answer honestly:

    Would you accept a million dollars tax free cash in exchange for only listenening to absolutely stock SDA's for the rest of your life?
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2009
    I'm not sure if I've seen a more ridiculous question in my travels.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited February 2009
    It's only ridiculous to those who are not members of the faith.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    Give me the million dollars, and I'll get Matt Polk to build me a pair of "factory stock" SDA's using much better components. Best of both worlds then.;)
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited February 2009
    Thanks for the non sequitur.
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  • John in MA
    John in MA Posts: 1,010
    edited February 2009
    I don't see the big deal. Speakers are a personal preference. Big Polks are excellent speakers but the world has a lot of excellent speakers in it for varying tastes. Saying that they sounded very good but didn't "blow him away" isn't an unreasonable opinion, especially when you consider that CV system he listed is some pretty weighty hardware. Maybe he's more into the punch than fine critical listening.

    I currently own 1.2TLs and I've never experienced a "holy crap" moment. The imaging and detail are impressive. Overall the sound strikes me as a little cold, and the bass is nothing to write home about when compared to the McIntosh ML-2Cs (2x12" per box) I had before. The Macs weren't great across the board but they were capable of being flat to 20Hz and could practically make the air feel solid in a small room.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2009
    John in MA wrote: »

    I currently own 1.2TLs and I've never experienced a "holy crap" moment. The imaging and detail are impressive. Overall the sound strikes me as a little cold, and the bass is nothing to write home about when compared to the McIntosh ML-2Cs (2x12" per box) I had before.

    John, have you done any upgrades to your 1.2 TLs? It makes all the difference in the world.:)
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,133
    edited February 2009
    Also we need to compare apples to apples. Polk speakers are hard to beat for the price.
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  • Driver_King
    Driver_King Posts: 266
    edited February 2009
    DarqueKnight wrote: »
    I can remember what my SDA SRS 1.2TL's sounded like in their pre-tweaked form. The bass was as good as any other speaker in their price range, but it was nothing special. The magic only came after extensive modifications. Proper amplification helped a lot too.

    If you are a hardcore SDA cultist with extensively modified SDA's, I'd like you to think hard and answer honestly:

    Would you accept a million dollars tax free cash in exchange for only listenening to absolutely stock SDA's for the rest of your life?

    SDA speakers are amazing, but I would not only want to listen to them for the rest of my life. Then what the hell am I going to use the $1,000,000 for?:confused::D
    Home Theater:

    Onkyo TX-SR805
    Behringer EP2500 for SDA's

    Polk SDA II fronts
    Polk Monitor 5Jr. surrounds
    Polk Monitor 4 back surrounds

    DIY A7-900 and DIY A3-300
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