good place to find high quality wire

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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2009
    cembros wrote: »
    ya iv just gone ahead and closed out the avs thread and i will not be returning there, i dont really care about bi-wiring, i really just want to upgrade my speaker wire and to be honest i think it would look nice if my speakers were bi wired. Maybe im superficial but asthetics are important to me, plus i have found that bi wire speaker cable are the same price as single wired which is a big reason why i was thinking bi wire

    Enjoy...worry about the tweaks later.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited February 2009
    How about these ??? Good wire,price and seller !!!;)

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78737
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2009
    It's silver stranded wire...and he makes both IC's and speaker wire. I don't know much beyond that though. His prices are very reasonable though. I've never tried them myself, though I plan to pick a few up sometime in the near future. There are many happy users of his cables around here.

    Actually I use solid single conductor wire. The stranded stuff lacked bass.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Actually I use solid single strand wire. The stranded stuff lacked bass.
    Thanks
    Ben

    Ah, my mistake. I was close though at least.
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    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • dfranks
    dfranks Posts: 207
    edited February 2009
    Parts Express has great prices , I bought my Dayton speaker cables from them and I was very surprised with the sound difference.
    (I am not afil with them)
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    dfranks wrote: »
    Parts Express has great prices , I bought my Dayton speaker cables from them and I was very surprised with the sound difference.
    (I am not afil with them)

    I've been wondering how those perform. I've been thinking about getting some for my HT setup...they seem to be of pretty high quality, and the prices are very reasonable.
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • metal83
    metal83 Posts: 1,219
    edited February 2009
    I've been wondering how those perform. I've been thinking about getting some for my HT setup...they seem to be of pretty high quality, and the prices are very reasonable.

    Dude, what aren't you thinking about getting...haha lol :p
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    metal83 wrote: »
    Dude, what aren't you thinking about getting...haha lol :p

    I like to have several options...lol

    As far as the wiring for my HT setup, it's between that wire or Canare 4S11...still trying to decide on it. The Canare is gonna be a bit more expensive, and I'd have to terminate it myself. Or pay more to have them terminated. I was flipping through my PE catalog the other night and saw these cables though...so they're another option right now.

    edit-I just added it up. If I went with the Dayton cables, it would cost me about 135 to wire my whole HT. I could get 100 feet of the Canare 4S11 unterminated for about 130 dollars, plus another 50 bucks or so for some GLS Locking nanners. I think I'm probably gonna go with the Canare. I even get the enjoyment of terminating them myself then too.;)

    Let's see how many more times I change my mind before I buy anything though...:p
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2009
    gdb wrote: »
    I followed your link to your thread at avsforum, there does seem to be some douchebags over there that are a little too full of themselves!!:rolleyes:

    Not really, just penngray. Everytime he post dismissing something he always brings up that AVS is a science forum yet I have never seen him post anything that related to science.

    I use to spend a lot time at AVS but the noise floor is so high I usually see what is for sell or look for LCD/Plasma setting from people who have proof of their settings.
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  • metal83
    metal83 Posts: 1,219
    edited February 2009
    thsmith wrote: »
    Not really, just penngray. Everytime he post dismissing something he always brings up that AVS is a science forum yet I have never seen him post anything that related to science.

    I use to spend a lot time at AVS but the noise floor is so high I usually see what is for sell or look for LCD/Plasma setting from people who have proof of their settings.

    He's definetly not the only one on AVS like that, seems to be a lot more of his kind lately. The Masters of everything audio, or whatever section they dwell in. There are still some good people over there though as well, just gotta sift through the nonsense.

    I gave up trying to talk to penngray, i even tried to end the damn bickering by saying let's agree to disagree. But ooohhh no, he just had to come back with something. Such a ****, i can't stand people like him.
  • metal83
    metal83 Posts: 1,219
    edited February 2009
    I like to have several options...lol

    As far as the wiring for my HT setup, it's between that wire or Canare 4S11...still trying to decide on it. The Canare is gonna be a bit more expensive, and I'd have to terminate it myself. Or pay more to have them terminated. I was flipping through my PE catalog the other night and saw these cables though...so they're another option right now.

    edit-I just added it up. If I went with the Dayton cables, it would cost me about 135 to wire my whole HT. I could get 100 feet of the Canare 4S11 unterminated for about 130 dollars, plus another 50 bucks or so for some GLS Locking nanners. I think I'm probably gonna go with the Canare. I even get the enjoyment of terminating them myself then too.;)

    Let's see how many more times I change my mind before I buy anything though...:p

    LOL...That's the nice thing though, you can have all the options you want and change your mind as many times as you see fit. I do that quite a bit myself.... :D
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    metal83 wrote: »
    LOL...That's the nice thing though, you can have all the options you want and change your mind as many times as you see fit. I do that quite a bit myself.... :D

    My mind is never made up until I purchase something...and even then, I'm still wondering, "what if?". I've basically been set on the Canare for a while though. Other options keep popping up, so I'll second guess it, but I keep going back to the Canare. I need to just buy the damn stuff already...lol
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • metal83
    metal83 Posts: 1,219
    edited February 2009
    My mind is never made up until I purchase something...and even then, I'm still wondering, "what if?". I've basically been set on the Canare for a while though. Other options keep popping up, so I'll second guess it, but I keep going back to the Canare. I need to just buy the damn stuff already...lol

    The joys of being indecisive, my fiancee get's on my case about this little problem of mine all the time...."just pick something, can't you make up your mind, can't you ever just pick something and keep it for a while, you're returning that, grrrr" haha...lol :D
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    metal83 wrote: »
    The joys of being indecisive, my fiancee get's on my case about this little problem of mine all the time...."just pick something, can't you make up your mind, can't you ever just pick something and keep it for a while, you're returning that, grrrr" haha...lol :D

    Some people just don't get it...lol

    I'd rather take my time and really research my options before I buy anything. I like to make sure that I get the best that I can in my price range. Whatever wire I get for the HT, odds are I'll be using it for several years to come at least, so I need to be happy with it.

    I'll likely end up going the AQ Type 4 route for the 2-channel though. I'm in on a demo for some Type 4, and I'm getting close to the top of the list. So that decision will be made by a couple weeks of demo time. That always helps. Especially when an 8 foot pair of the Type 4 is going to set me back about 120-150 bucks or so. Definitely need to be happy with that purchase.
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • praedet
    praedet Posts: 314
    edited February 2009
    Well, as soon as I hit 10 posts :lol: I am going to send Ben a pm. I just got my LSI9s and LSiC, and the LSi 15s should be here in a month or two, and I need some wire ;)
    HT: Ninja Master LSi9s, Ninja Master LSiC, Slightly Modded LSiFXs, Modded LSi7s, Outlaw LFM-1 EX and Polk PSW125
    Outlaw 970 Preamp, Outlaw 7700 Amp, Velodyne SMS-1, Oppo BDP-83,
    2 APC H-15s and a Panamax 5400 for good measure ;)
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  • broncsrule21@
    broncsrule21@ Posts: 113
    edited February 2009
    metal83 wrote: »
    Yeah AVS is definitely full of a bunch of snobby **** that think they know it all. Even in simple sections like the video game areas, people just like to be jerks and down everyone, a lot of internet tough guys as well. I have gotten bashed for asking questions over there myself, or bashed and talked down to (sometimes not in so many words though) because i'm trying to upgrade equipment for my polk speakers, to hell with them!

    But on the flip side, there are some very nice and helpful people over there as well, but few and far between lately.


    Here is another option for you to consider in regards to nice cables.

    http://www.mitcablesdiscount.com/speakercables.html?vmcchk=1

    I just got myself some MIT's and they made a huge improvement for me.


    Club Polk is a much more friendly and helpful environment, which is the main reason i spend most of my time on here now. :D


    "friendly and helpful environment".....unless you say the "E" word
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    Downstairs-- Denon avr-3300,Emotiva UPA-2, Toshiba 50" rear projection, Denon 2200 sacd, Emotiva ERM-1s, small Yamaha sub
  • cembros
    cembros Posts: 172
    edited February 2009
    ok so i think i have decided on speaker wire, i want to go with this audioquest slate
    http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AQSLANF&variation=8SIBNBN
    does anyone have any opinions on this wire
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2009
    Nice wire and a great benchmark for what you do, or not do later.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • metal83
    metal83 Posts: 1,219
    edited February 2009
    cembros wrote: »
    ok so i think i have decided on speaker wire, i want to go with this audioquest slate
    http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AQSLANF&variation=8SIBNBN
    does anyone have any opinions on this wire

    Audioquest makes great speaker cables, i haven't heard anything about the slate, but many people here seem to like the Type 4 cables they make.
  • Mike21
    Mike21 Posts: 252
    edited February 2009
    I have only posted 3 or 4 times on AVS and got 1 nasty comment.

    What's with those people anyways? :eek:
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  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited February 2009
    Take a look on audiogoN for great deals on used speaker cables too.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    fbm211 wrote: »
    Take a look on audiogoN for great deals on used speaker cables too.

    x2

    I'm going to be getting some AQ Type 4 for my two channel rig once I get it set up. I can get a pair on Audiogon for almost half of what they cost new....so that's definitely where I'll be going.
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited February 2009
    Let's see how many more times I change my mind before I buy anything though...:p

    haveana-flipflop-gold.jpg

    Curt, I'd suggest you get the cable from PE. I have the 12 AWG, and it's decent. Make cables one of your later upgrades, after the amp. (when you are more likely to hear any benefit):cool:
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    haveana-flipflop-gold.jpg

    Curt, I'd suggest you get the cable from PE. I have the 12 AWG, and it's decent. Make cables one of your later upgrades, after the amp. (when you are more likely to hear any benefit):cool:


    So you use that PE cable eh? You say it's good? Well...I won't rule it out yet then I guess. It would save me about 50-60 bucks over the 4S11...which is always welcome.

    I'll probably still stick with the Type 4 for the 2-channel rig though.
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited February 2009
    I bought some of these in 16' length for $25 and they're not too shabby, although the bananas could be better. I put them in my home 2ch. rig just to see what they'll do, but they're ultimately headed to my workshop rig. IMO you can't go too far wrong with these at the stupid low price they're charging.;)


    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=109-050
  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited February 2009
    So you use that PE cable eh? You say it's good? Well...I won't rule it out yet then I guess. It would save me about 50-60 bucks over the 4S11...which is always welcome.

    I'll probably still stick with the Type 4 for the 2-channel rig though.

    I'm saying it's good enough for starters.....it'll get you by until you want to buy some with prettier jacketing.:D My larger point was that for now, you have bigger fish to fry, and I'd place high-grade wire later on your upgrade timeline.
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    I'm saying it's good enough for starters.....it'll get you by until you want to buy some with prettier jacketing.:D My larger point was that for now, you have bigger fish to fry, and I'd place high-grade wire later on your upgrade timeline.

    Either way I go, the wire will only be temporary. It'll get upgraded to something better farther down the line. For the HT setup anyway...I think for the 2 ch. rig I'll just go ahead and get some nicer wire though. Probably AQ Type 4.

    Whatever wire I end up getting for the HT setup will probably be there for a couple years, so I want to make sure it's something I won't be wanting to upgrade right away. It'll get rewired most likely after I get a pre-pro/power amp combo. Until then though, either the Canare of the Dayton wire should do just fine.
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    Dammit...what did I say? My mind has changed again:p...I think I'm going to get the Dayton stuff rather than the Canare. It's going to be cheaper, and it comes already terminated, which will save me the trouble of having to terminate it myself.
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited February 2009
    I have tried a lot of different types of IC and speaker cables. The high dollar stuff is nice but I don't have the gear to justify it (and probably never will). The cheap stuff to my ear...sounds like cheap stuff...and I don't care what anyone thinks. If you believe that is is snake oil or voodoo...fine...I don't. I have settled on two brands I like. They have quality products, excellent reputations, good customer service and sound good to me. Signal Cable and AudioQuest. They comprise 90% of what I have now and they are the brands I will buy in the future.
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  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited February 2009
    Quite a few harsh posters there. One thing I picked out of all that was you mentioned distortion somewhere. I think I'd have to agree that your wire is probably not the cause of it.

    Have you tracked down the cause of it? Maybe you have since you also mention your AVR is being repaired.

    While I did not care for Signal cables silver line, the customer service is great and Frank is a pleasure to work with. I don't think you could go wrong giving him a call and discussing your needs.

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