Bi-wiring RT1000i
I just want to say how pleased I am with the results of bi-wiring my RT1000i speakers.
I read the whole argument about bi-wiring and it's too bad that that it exists in this forum and it may steer people in the wrong direction. I'm NOT starting another argument about terminology here. I want to inform other people of my results. Because of that long drawn out argument, I was really aprehensive about bi-wiring or "Mantis-wiring" them but all I have to say is wow what a difference.
I bought some Kimber cable, tried mono-wiring and bi-wiring. The mono-wiring sounded great but had a bit of midrange muddiness that was only evident when compared with bi-wiring. The bi-wiring did a wonderfull job of clearing the mid and highs and also providing much deeper bass. I've had these speakers for about a year now (a whole wack of different positions) and bass has always been lacking. Not anymore.
I would suggest giving bi-wiring a try and if you don't like the results go back to mono-wiring.
I have a Denon 2802, RT1000i, CS400i, and R10 surrounds. It's been I while since I've had that wow factor and it's nice to have once more.
My next upgrade is going to possibly be a Rotel CD player RCD1070, then futhur down the line maybe RTi38 surrounds.
P.S.> Sorry for the identical post in the basic hookup section. I think it's better suited here.
I read the whole argument about bi-wiring and it's too bad that that it exists in this forum and it may steer people in the wrong direction. I'm NOT starting another argument about terminology here. I want to inform other people of my results. Because of that long drawn out argument, I was really aprehensive about bi-wiring or "Mantis-wiring" them but all I have to say is wow what a difference.
I bought some Kimber cable, tried mono-wiring and bi-wiring. The mono-wiring sounded great but had a bit of midrange muddiness that was only evident when compared with bi-wiring. The bi-wiring did a wonderfull job of clearing the mid and highs and also providing much deeper bass. I've had these speakers for about a year now (a whole wack of different positions) and bass has always been lacking. Not anymore.
I would suggest giving bi-wiring a try and if you don't like the results go back to mono-wiring.
I have a Denon 2802, RT1000i, CS400i, and R10 surrounds. It's been I while since I've had that wow factor and it's nice to have once more.
My next upgrade is going to possibly be a Rotel CD player RCD1070, then futhur down the line maybe RTi38 surrounds.
P.S.> Sorry for the identical post in the basic hookup section. I think it's better suited here.
SDA-2a, Anthem Pre-2L, Anthem Amp 1, MF A324 DAC, Rotel RCD1070
Senn HD650 Cardas, Mapletree Audio Ear+ HD2, Kimber KS1030, Bel Canto DAC2, M-Audio Transit, Laptop.
Senn HD650 Cardas, Mapletree Audio Ear+ HD2, Kimber KS1030, Bel Canto DAC2, M-Audio Transit, Laptop.
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As it is said before that Biwiring is worth a try and I am happy that you liked that outcome. There is a lot of debate on this forums about biwiring powered towers and many people think that they cant be biwired. But dont listen to them, in the end it is your ears that make a decision.
PS: This must be happy moment for Dan (mantis)-izafar
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I thought bi-wiring meant running two different amplifier sources to each set of binding posts. How did you bi wire your speakers?
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Well said.SDA-2a, Anthem Pre-2L, Anthem Amp 1, MF A324 DAC, Rotel RCD1070
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2 separate amps would be bi-amping.
To do what I did, regardless of the term was the following.
I'm assuming you're talking about thr RT1000i
-Take the bridge clip off of your binding posts.
-Run one set of wires from the back of your receiver/amp to the top binding posts
-Run another set of wire to the bottom binding posts from the same source on the amp as the top.
You'll end up with 2 sets of wires coming from the amp to the speaker.SDA-2a, Anthem Pre-2L, Anthem Amp 1, MF A324 DAC, Rotel RCD1070
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Yes,
that was really my only point about doing the impossible with the rt1000 series speakers.The sound quality improvment was worth more then the pointless arguements that went down back then.
I accept the term being used as "Mantis Wiring"...........I can dig it.
Good to hear you tried it anyway even though other have said it can't be done................................Dan
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In my opinion, these dudes that say that is impossible and accomplishes nothing, have never heard the results. Because now, after 2 days of listening, I realize that the RT1000i are now revealing so much more of my system it's crazy.
I've said more on the other post in the other section. I made the mistake of saying how much I was pleased with the results of a different way of wiring my speakers.
http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7869SDA-2a, Anthem Pre-2L, Anthem Amp 1, MF A324 DAC, Rotel RCD1070
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Oh pull yourself together Carlson.
'impossible and accomplishes nothing'
No one EVER said anything to that sort.
'I made the mistake of saying how much....'
Cry me a friggin river already. Get the term straight, THAT is and was the point.
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Read Aaron's initial post, that spells it out pretty well.
http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4641I plan for the future. - F1Nut -
All i have to say, and it's not much.. But.. I have ran speakers both ways and currently run my 70's and center bi-wired, also ran my 70's bi-amped.. I can't really notice the "Big" difference that people say they do.. opens up, whole new sound" I just don't hear it.. am i crazy??????? I don't think it does that much to the sound, However i do it because its an option i can do and if it improves something maybe i can't hear fine, Its done anyways.
I just am real skeptical of this improvement really.. Its neat to do but the results sorry aren't NIGHT and DAY.. It just isn't..MY HT RIG:
Sherwood p-965
Sherwood sd871 dvd
Rotel 1075 amp x5
LSI15 mains
LsiC center
LSIfx surround backs
Lsi7 side surrounds
SVS pb12/plus2
2 Channel Rig:
nad 1020 Pre-amp
Rotel 1080 stereo amp
Polk sda 2B
kenwood grunt Tuner
realistic lab 450 TT
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I biwired mine, and it may just be my imagination, but I think that there was a subtle, slight improvement that I could actually hear. I made sure that both sets of wire were run the exact same length. My reciever has 2 sets of main speaker wire binding posts (a + b) , and I use them both on at the same time. Interestingly though, just out of curiousity, I switched them on and off so that only one was playing at one time, and it appears that the bottom set of binding posts are only for the subwoofer (which obviously has it's own internal power amp), so it kind of makes me wonder what's the point of biwiring in the first place. However, I don't use the LFE or line input. I just set them to large with the speaker wire, and, as I said, I THINK I can hear a difference.
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I hope this isn't back..............................I'm not into it this time.............long ago and far away for me brothersDan
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