Emotiva ERT 8.3 towers
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TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »Really I don't see me spending money on them, not that i would not want to hear them, They just won't see my wallet.
That's too bad. The numerous pro and owner reviews have been overwhelmingly positive. Several experienced owners on the Emo boards say they'd pit them against speakers costing 3-5 times as much.
I plan to buy a pair of Emo 6.2s(mains), a 6.3 for the CC, and an Emo XPA-3 for the front stage of my secondary HT. I'll just use let my Marantz SR-5002 AVR handle the rear surround channels.'98 CRV
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headknocker wrote: »That's too bad. The numerous pro and owner reviews have been overwhelmingly positive. Several experienced owners on the Emo boards say they'd pit them against speakers costing 3-5 times as much.
I plan to buy a pair of Emo 6.2s(mains), a 6.3 for the CC, and an Emo XPA-3 for the front stage of my secondary HT. I'll just use let my Marantz SR-5002 AVR handle the rear surround channels.
Pit them up against speakers costing 3-5 times as much,eh??
Never heard that one before.:rolleyes:
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I am not knocking anything eather, But I can think of a dozen other speakers ( outside of polk ) I would rather put my ears and money on.
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Pit them up against speakers costing 3-5 times as much,eh??
Never heard that one before.:rolleyes:
Not knocking something I've never heard,but remember,in the end,you get what you pay for,nothing more,nothing less.
So, with your way of thinking Bose gear is worth what the're asking? Nothing more,nothing less?
Yeah, you get something from an internet-direct company so you're not paying for ads which usually feature someone wearing a lab coat
. Emo doesn't have Polk's overhead....not even close. I'm not bashing Polk but I would rather put my money towards gear from Emotiva,SVS, and Hsu.
We just approach this hobby differently.'98 CRV
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Re the 45 hz bottom: I'm pretty sure the speakers were designed to be used in conjunction with an Emo sub.
Re 2 channel: at some point---I think last fall, am too lazy to look it up---a few Emo guys went to an audio show and (inter alia) demoed 8.3s in a 2 channel rig. Which proves conclusively, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Emo high command hopes the 8.3s will be decent 2 channel speakers. For what that's worth.
Re ugliness: I think all Emo gear is ugly; it's part of the appeal. They had to economize somewhere and plainly it's better to cut corners on looks than on sound. -
Yeah, the Emo gear is purely functional IMO. And it does a very good job of functioning.;)
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I am definitely coming in late --
But that is the ugliest, cheapest looking $800 pair of speakers I have EVER seen.
Wow, I had some cheap $80.00 a pair KLH speakers that looked nicer...- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Scratch my comments -- for 1600 a pair... that is rediculous... real wood insert here???- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »I am definitely coming in late --
But that is the ugliest, cheapest looking $800 pair of speakers I have EVER seen.
Wow, I had some cheap $80.00 a pair KLH speakers that looked nicer...
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If Im going to drop 1,600 dollars - it will LOOK and SOUND great.
There are numerous products that do this...
LSi15, Salk Sound, Tyler Acoustics, Odyssey Audio, B&W, Dynaudio...
You name it.- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
I know I shouldn't do this...it's asking for trouble....can't help myself...
This is from the product page:
Ideal Applications:
"As left and right speakers in a stand alone, reference two channel system"
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Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »If Im going to drop 1,600 dollars - it will LOOK and SOUND great.
There are numerous products that do this...
LSi15, Salk Sound, Tyler Acoustics, Odyssey Audio, B&W, Dynaudio...
You name it.
Might be nice to have, somewhere on the forum, a list of great 2-channel speaker pairs for under 2 grand. Maybe RTiA9s belong on list too? -
I haven't heard these and I doubt they sound as good as some of the speakers Vr..mentions above....
but if the Emo web-site is correct...these weigh 80 lbs 'boxed' EACH! That means they're not exactly in cheap boxes at least. Unless that's 80lbs a pair?
Sure they're Boxy-looking and don't meet the rule of thumb..."don't buy speakers from a company whose main product is NOT SPEAKERS."
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Sure they're Boxy-looking and don't meet the rule of thumb..."don't buy speakers from a company whose main product is NOT SPEAKERS."
cnh
I used to believe that. However, I'm a convert now. You never know until you try. This "ugly" ERM-6.2, which I think is actually quite nice looking in person, sounds considerably better than the Polk Audio CSi30 it replaced. Also it's quite solid, and its crossover is top notch. 99 % of speakers are "boxes" in some form or another...:) -
I don't know how one could call the crossover top notch, it's average at best. Additionally, the fact that it only hits to 45Hz with all those drivers is quite alarming.Political Correctness'.........defined
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It's probably not half bad if Dickason was involved with the design. 45hz bass extension is reasonable for 8" woofers operating in a sealed box.It would dig deeper if they had used a port but the more gradual roll off of the sealed design will in theory atleast give it tighter and better defined bass vs bass reflex.Testing
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Not sure why, but Emotiva threads just irritate the hell out of me.
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It's probably not half bad if Dickason was involved with the design. 45hz bass extension is reasonable for 8" woofers operating in a sealed box.It would dig deeper if they had used a port but the more gradual roll off of the sealed design will in theory atleast give it tighter and better defined bass vs bass reflex.
I hate to repeat myself, but....Eh, my little sealed bookshelf office speakers with a single 6.5" mid/woofer hit 38Hz.Political Correctness'.........defined
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I hate to repeat myself, but....
Actually if you were to take the parameters of a number very good 8" woofers from the likes of SEAS,Vifa,Peerless etc and enter them into a box CAD program you would likely find most will not reach any lower than the EMO in a sealed box.I have run the numbers on several units from the manufacturers listed above and found this to be the case.
38hz with a 6" in a sealed box? ,that must be an exceptional woofer as not many 6" inchers will reach down there without a port. What are the tolerances? is it claimed to be flat -38hz,-3db?-6db?Testing
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GV, that's -3dB.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Here's a review, from Secrets of Home Theater & High Fidelity:
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/home-theater-speakers/618-emotiva-ert-83-tower-speakers.html
Sample:
"Let me just get one thing out of the way at the very beginning these speakers ROCK. I thought Id go ahead and mention up front that so hopefully nobody would have too much difficulty figuring out how I feel on the subject of the Emotiva speakers."
There's also an "on the bench" section which meant very little to me. -
There's also an "on the bench" section which meant very little to me.
It looks like they use the same voicing as Cerwin Vega."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
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"Let me just get one thing out of the way at the very beginning – these speakers ROCK. I thought I’d go ahead and mention up front that so hopefully nobody would have too much difficulty figuring out how I feel on the subject of the Emotiva speakers."
WTF does that mean
. Really, that's what you call a helpful statement in a review?
That would be like Auto Week magazine stating a car they tested is "badass", WTF does that mean? Totally superfluous hyperbole, and the kind of reviews that render reviews totally useless.
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There's also an "on the bench" section which meant very little to me.
That's funny. Pretty much the most important part of the review where the technical issues are discussed, measurements are presented, and testing methodolgy is disclosed, and it means little.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Blue, i think he means he doesn't understand what all the measurements mean, not that he read them, interpreted them and thinks they have no value.
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
That's funny. Pretty much the most important part of the review where the technical issues are discussed, measurements are presented, and testing methodolgy is disclosed, and it means little.
Means little to me; it might mean a great deal to someone more technically inclined. Mr. Face apparently got something out of it.
I didn't read much of the review, and the bits I read did seem somewhat amateurish. Even so l I don't think it's entirely fair to dismiss the review based on the first paragraph; the author may have explained his views in satisfactory detail later on. The first paragraph may have been by way of courteously eliminating suspense.
Of course, it's only one opinion and first-hand evidence should always be taken with a grain of salt.
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WTF does that mean. Really, that's what you call a helpful statement in a review?
That would be like Auto Week magazine stating a car they tested is "badass", WTF does that mean? Totally superfluous hyperbole, and the kind of reviews that render reviews totally useless.
H9
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Saying that some speakers "rock", is about as unhelpful as you can be. Rocked for who? You? Me? Your next door neighbor? How did they "rock" exactly?
meh...These Emo speakers are still just as ugly as they were the first time I say them. That alone is enough to convince me that I don't want them.The nirvana inducer-
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WTF does that mean. Really, that's what you call a helpful statement in a review?
That would be like Auto Week magazine stating a car they tested is "badass", WTF does that mean? Totally superfluous hyperbole, and the kind of reviews that render reviews totally useless.
H9
It's a lead in to catch your attention which it apparently did. Who reads Auto Week anyways unless your at the doctors office.:p
