Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    Yep

    Like I said - it wont kill me if they stay in the corner! Even though the D2 is a notch better in most ways, it is still a great speaker I will always enjoy.

    So yeah, sure, take your time. ;)
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    I'm being serious. Let me demo a few other speakers first, so I can find what I am really looking for.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    I'm not looking to waste your time.

    Can we take this to email?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    Yep, shoot me an email
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited February 2009
    appadv wrote: »
    Still thinking about this, but in no rush to upgrade...

    I've heard the BP7000SC and BP7001SC and was impressed. I'm also interested in the LSi15 from Polk. If I'm looking for a speaker for strictly classical, what would you guys recommend? Also has to be good for HT as it will be paired up with a projector.

    Sounds like the Taylo 7U will do it, just not sure if I will like it or not.

    Current Def Tech any speaker line including the Super Tower series and Polk Audio Current Most Musical LSi line will simply bow to the Taylo 7U. I have not heard them and I am not biased. But from judging the Drivers and Crossover implemented in the 7U, it is superior to both the BP7000 series and LSi series.

    I owned all LSi series speakers so I know pretty much about how LSi sound. It's no questioning that LSi series is very musical and very good value for money. But comparing Taylo 7u to LSi series is comparing two different products that does not belong in the same class. It's like peaches are Peaches and Oranges and Oranges and so are the apples.

    I also enjoy and listens to a lot of Classical and Instrumental musics. For both type, I believe detail imaging is very important and the accuracy in tonal quality of each instrument is very important . I believe the width, the depth and the details of each instrument (including piano) being played in the recorded media should portray actual live session. I can tell you that LSi are good but not very accurate up to my taste even with all kinds of different amplifiers and amplification. The many forum members here suggest Xover upgrade for LSi series and it seems to be an improvement worth doing but another $500-$700 just for that. So, right out of the Box for a good musical experience, Taylo 7u may be your best contender for money.

    I am sorry to thread jacking so if you want to discuss about other speakers, I think it's more appropriate to start a new thread.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    Not trying to argue here, but DefTech BP7000SC is a $5k speaker, even if the parts cost $2500 and the markup was 100% it's still a lot of speaker for the money.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    Trust me, I am one of the biggest DT fans around - period.

    The Super Towers are awesome, but the speaker set is 5k...

    The subs built into the speakers alone cost 2,500 bucks. So you are actually buying 2,500 dollar speakers --

    At that point, they are using inferior parts 100%

    As megasat put it - there is no comparison between the two.
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited February 2009
    appadv wrote: »
    Not trying to argue here, but DefTech BP7000SC is a $5k speaker, even if the parts cost $2500 and the markup was 100% it's still a lot of speaker for the money.

    In Audio, Cost doesn't mean a thing sometimes or most of the time. :-)

    Def Tech is good (I heard them) if you want a good HT but for music (and for life like one), I would choose Taylo in a heartbeat. No question asked. It's not about the cost the retailers put it, it's about the parts the retailers used in it.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    Trust me, I am one of the biggest DT fans around - period.

    The Super Towers are awesome, but the speaker set is 5k...

    The subs built into the speakers alone cost 2,500 bucks. So you are actually buying 2,500 dollar speakers --

    At that point, they are using inferior parts 100%

    As megasat put it - there is no comparison between the two.

    Keep in mind, if I do decide to go with the Taylo's, they will be doing double duty - 25% classical music, 75% HT. As I am currently not running a sub in 2ch mode, I wonder how the Taylo's will do for HT just by themselves.

    (i.e. will they need to be paired up with a sub for HT?)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    I ran them for a while without a sub - they wont reproduct 20 hz, but 35hz they are fantastic... incredibly accurate with great texture. They have as much bass as the BP10B - but not over bearing and absolutely NO boom or bloated mess to go with it.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    I'm not looking for more bass, but I'm looking for more accurate bass. The BP10B have a boom/thud in the lower octaves that would be well suited for hip-hop music, but not for classical.

    That is one of the issues I have with the BP10B. Also, they are too bright.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    As I said in the previous post -- the 7u has as MUCH bass as the BP10B but without the negatives, completely accurate, textured and complete bass. PERIOD. Perfection in its range, hands down.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    Considering that the BP10B have too much bass on classical, would the 7U exhibit the same characteristics?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    no..
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited February 2009
    appadv -- stop comparing Def Techs to the Taylos. That's like comparing a Hyundai to a big body BMW. It's futile.

    I understand you want speakers to pull double duty and do 75% HT. But you have to ask yourself -- what is my priority? If your priority is music, then buy your speakers accordingly and forget about how they will sound for HT. My rule of thumb is -- if they sound great for music, then they'll be great for HT. (It doesn't work the other way around, though.)

    In terms of bass -- I have dual 12" woofers and a passive 12" woofer in each of my speakers (a total of six 12" woofers), and when my friend and I A/B'd our speakers, the 7u's produced as much bass as my speakers. I was absolutely shocked 'cause I bought my speakers primarily for their bass handling capabilities.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    46 posts and no serious inquiries...

    Geeeeeez --- This thread should maybe have... 10 posts... maybe
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited February 2009
    If you are looking for accurate bass, you need not look any further. The Taylos performs the lower octaves VERY well. Keep in mind that they are not a full range speaker but they definitely do not need a sub. A sub will "enhance" the speakers but as mentioned before, it's not necessary. These speak's also do well for HT [mine are currently pulling double duty] and they will not ever have boom at the bottom, they are too accurate to do so.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    Early B. wrote: »
    appadv -- stop comparing Def Techs to the Taylos. That's like comparing a Hyundai to a big body BMW. It's futile.

    Not trying to argue here, but I am not the only one using my system so the 75% HT is important.

    I only listen to music in 2ch, everyone else uses it for HT.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    The 7u is great for HT --- I've watched a ton of movies are very loud volumes and have never heard them bottom due to much bass -- and in 2 ch HT they can envelope the room in "surround sound"
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    Okay, so consider this a serious inquiry.

    Does Ty give demos? I would be interested in hearing the speaker first.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    Sure, but I doubt he has a 7u to hear - he may have a D3 (the replacement) which sells for like 3,200 bucks - and after hearing the D2's - it would not be a similar demo at all. The 7u is a very different speaker.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    You've got me very interested in Tyler speakers, maybe I should contact the man himself? The D3 may be what I am looking for.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    Maybe it is? Who knows? Contact Ty --- Please take further responses to this thread to PM or EMail. Thanks - it is getting so far off track it is not even funny.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    Sure. You got email.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    Only bump! No interest?

    I will entertain SERIOUS/NO LOW BALL offers.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2009
    You should post pictures of yourself, next to the speakers, in various superhero costumes.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2009
    :)Guy's these things are a steal at this price,,I have a pair just like Trey's,made about the same time as well,,I know what they cost,(an we got a deal),,so if you're "fence sitting",better jump off now,, these may be the last speakers you buy. Good luck with the sale. Enjoy your new speaks.:)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    You should post pictures of yourself, next to the speakers, in various superhero costumes.

    Now thats an idea....

    If only I had spandex and assless chaps! :)

    Yeah, George and me copied each other - all the way down to the wood color - but mine are signed! :p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2009
    mine are signed,,,,,,and dated:p:p:p:p:p:p
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    No way? Yours are aftermarket and you know it! ;)
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