Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,650
edited February 2009 in For Sale (FS) Classifieds
Well... out with the old and in with the new.

Up for sale is my beloved pair of 7u...

A speaker that has truly impressed me among all the other speakers Ive heard. They use top notch drivers -- I approx 600 dollars worth per speaker, real Dark Walnut veneer - signed by Ty Lashbrook himself.

I have two different types of grills - full length and ones that just cover the drivers. I do not have the velcro circles though to attach them. I prefer mine nekkad...

These are some of the best speakers Ive heard - period. I also have the original box and brass spikes.

As far as condition, I would give them a 8/10 --- they have two notable marks on them. On one speaker there is a mark about 1" long (hairline) - this was my fault. An amp corner hit them and marked it. Hard to see unless you look for it. And another mark I dont have a clue on how it got there is on the side of a speaker -- about 1/8" circular ding -- no clue???

Everything else looks pretty darn good.

These are hand built with 1" MDF and top of the line crossovers, no need to upgrade these bad boys.

My asking price is 2,000 shipped FIRM in their original boxes.
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • SKsolutions
    SKsolutions Posts: 1,820
    edited February 2009
    Are you replacing the Tylers with the speaker on the right? :p

    If it's cold enough, they should sound great-
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    It is quite a chilling experience to hear them, that is for sure! :)
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited February 2009
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    And another mark I dont have a clue on how it got there

    And what did you think those transformers do when you're not around????

    Great speakers here, and they could be someone's last pair. My Tylers are probably the speakers that gave me more seller remorse.

    Good luck with your sale.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    Would this be a worthwhile upgrade from the Definitive BP10B?

    Specifically, how do these sound on classical?
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited February 2009
    So does this mean the D2's have dethroned the 7u's?
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited February 2009
    Ya' think?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    The D2 is better in everyway --

    After a little bit of break in - the dynamics showed up and it was over...
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    They look like transformers too! ;)

    I sent you an email (a few days ago).
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    appadv wrote: »
    Would this be a worthwhile upgrade from the Definitive BP10B?

    Specifically, how do these sound on classical?

    The bigger question here is :

    Are you actually looking to buy a pair? ;)

    But umm yeah, these are... 4-5-6-7 times the speaker of the BP10B
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    No, I'm just looking to waste your time ;)

    Seriously, how different from the BP10B are they on classical? I don't want a speaker that sounds good only on Rock/Jazz/etc.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    Well Im not a big classical listener - so that is hard for me to answer.

    The closest thing I have to classical is a Japanese drum line and blue man group --- and with that material they are awesome. The little classical I have heard - they have the seperation to pick out individual instruments/sections, and the depth to pick out rows -- with the dynamics for transitional parts of classical.

    But anyone that has heard my system it is very much geared toward quick attack and high resolution detail. I do not like laid back, boring reproduction. Instruments are SHARP and should sound as such. I work around them all day.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    As a classical pianist, I have come to appreciate the warm sound of a Steinway - laid back, accurate sound.

    I will be honest with you - the Definitive BP10B are not really the speaker for me either, so if the Taylo is in any way similar to the DefTech that's not what I am looking for. I'm looking for less detail, more accuracy.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    On another note...

    Piano shouldn't sound "sharp" and "bright," it should sound like what it really is.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    Nah the 7u is a far more controlled, musical speaker. There really is not similarities. It is hard to describe without hearing them. They sound 4 times their size and have midrange clarity like no other... with bass to keep any bass heard happy except for that lowest octave.

    But everything wrong with the BP10B - sloppy bass, compressed mids, recessed highs with splotchy detail and confused soundstaging (things I didnt even notice until the 7u) is completely gone. These drivers are used in alot of speakers - Von S, Salk - some of the best you can buy. The excel woofer is used in the 90,000 dollar Von S flagship. It is good stuff, period.

    Piano is a warm instrument - but just like anything else in those higher octaves has a nice ping to it.

    But we can discuss piano tonality in another thread. Lets stay on track.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    I'm interested in the 7U's, although they might not be what I am looking for.

    What do you mean by compressed mids?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    The midbasses in the BP10B have such a restricted design so they produce that bass cleanly it restricts the mids. They sound incredibly flat and lifeless in comparison to those Excel woofers --- like I said, there just is no comparison. But again, these are things I didnt even realize until I heard these 7u's.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    How about this - if they sound *bright* in any way, then the 7U are not for me.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    The midbasses in the BP10B have such a restricted design so they produce that bass cleanly it restricts the mids. They sound incredibly flat and lifeless in comparison to those Excel woofers --- like I said, there just is no comparison. But again, these are things I didnt even realize until I heard these 7u's.

    The only issue I have is that the BP10B are too bright. Would the 7U's solve that problem?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    If the 7u can be called "BRIGHT" it is simply because of detail. It leaves nothing behind. No one - no one who has heard the 7u in my room has walked away not liking them. Tom (Treitz) even went out and bought a pair for himself.

    It is an amazing speaker, bar none. It really has no sound character - if a trumpet plays, it plays a trumpet - like it is supposed to, like brass sounds. If a grand piano plays, it is going to have the warmth of the recording or the attack some pianos are recorded as. That is one thing I liked about the 7u. It is a true speaker. But no I do not find it bright - but to me, a speaker that is veiled or "laid back" is not detailed - it seems to leave things behind. It is up to you - anyone interested can come by and hear them.

    I do not need to sell them - I would just hate to see these sit in the corner of my room, but if they do not sell - I will use them down the road as surrounds or a seconardy system, Im sure.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited February 2009
    Trey, you would love me and then hate me if I ever gave you my evaluation of these speakers...........that's between him and I.

    These speakers will give you precise sound staging and pinpoint imaging that many, many speakers will not produce. You may hear "the sound stage" but these actually deliver. With the right gear, these puppies will shine without a doubt!

    For those who are interested, please disregard the first statement as I am......."anal" when it comes to my sound. I dog my own rig more than most would dog others, but that's just me. These speakers can rock you and your woman's world.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    Well you like even more detail than I ---

    I think you are going to like the D2...

    with the tweeter and midbass crossed a little higher in a sealed enclosure - they are quick. Man are they quick. ;)
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited February 2009
    I'll hear it soon. We'll save that for another thread or conversation though. Good luck on the sale............

    As if you need it.............:rolleyes:
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2009
    Bump,, if you're sitting on the fence,,,better jump on em now,,, if/when they go to a'gon,,,,they will be gone in a "New York Second"

    Not that you need it,, but good luck with the sale.:)
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited February 2009
    appadv wrote: »
    As a classical pianist, I have come to appreciate the warm sound of a Steinway - laid back, accurate sound.

    The Tyler speakers are the most laid back, accurate sound I've ever heard. I've owned the monitors and my best friend had the 7u's. Everything Trey and Tom are telling you about these speakers is correct.

    Bottom line -- if I were a classical pianist, I'd buy these speakers without hesitation due to their profound accuracy.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited February 2009
    appadv wrote: »
    On another note...

    Piano shouldn't sound "sharp" and "bright," it should sound like what it really is.

    You know, amplification and source have a lot to do with it too. I just switched amps and the new amp does piano so much better (same speakers). I would think the Tylers might do piano better than the BP10........but will it be an "exact" match to the real thing, probably not.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2009
    Early B. wrote: »
    The Tyler speakers are the most laid back, accurate sound I've ever heard. I've owned the monitors and my best friend had the 7u's. Everything Trey and Tom are telling you about these speakers is correct.

    Bottom line -- if I were a classical pianist, I'd buy these speakers without hesitation due to their profound accuracy.

    Very well put Brad,, and accurate,, you and the Tylers;)
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    Still thinking about this, but in no rush to upgrade...

    I've heard the BP7000SC and BP7001SC and was impressed. I'm also interested in the LSi15 from Polk. If I'm looking for a speaker for strictly classical, what would you guys recommend? Also has to be good for HT as it will be paired up with a projector.

    Sounds like the Taylo 7U will do it, just not sure if I will like it or not.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited February 2009
    appadv wrote: »
    If I'm looking for a speaker for strictly classical, what would you guys recommend? Also has to be good for HT

    Not sure this is possible. Anything will play HT. Probably should start a new thread as this is a FS thread and it's starting to fall off track :)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited February 2009
    The 7u is leaps and bounds above the 7000sc - Ive heard that speaker with Mcintosh amps/preamp/cdp and with my humble equipment the 7u is a good notch better in accuracy and pinpoint staging.

    The 7u has far better midrange clarity than the LSi15 - with a tad better seperation in the staging. Definitely a good notch above from what I've heard.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited February 2009
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    The 7u is leaps and bounds above the 7000sc - Ive heard that speaker with Mcintosh amps/preamp/cdp and with my humble equipment the 7u is a good notch better in accuracy and pinpoint staging.

    The 7u has far better midrange clarity than the LSi15 - with a tad better seperation in the staging. Definitely a good notch above from what I've heard.

    Thanks.

    I just don't want this to be an impulse buy - I'd rather demo a few more speakers first. Can you give me some time to decide?
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