Def Tech speakers...any feedback.

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  • Murray1
    Murray1 Posts: 193
    edited March 2009
    Mantis,

    Looking to purchase LSi 15's or 9's on Polk's ebay refurbished site. Should I re-consider and purchase Definite Tech speakers? I am building a HT system but will also likely enjoy music via blueray music videos (i.e. HD audio). If I should be looking at DT's, what is the best price you have seen for a pair - factory refurbs ok?
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,204
    edited March 2009
    MikeC78 wrote: »
    Does it matter which mythos model, don't they all sport the same exact tweeter down the line?

    I'm just talking about in general, I don't base my speaker purchase around the electronics personally. The LSi's to me are are more "laid back" speaker, regardless of the electronics.

    Seriously, I'm really interested in the ST's, just the price on them kinda steered me in a different direction. I also don't care for powered towers either.
    The Mythos St's are $4000.00 so they are a lot more then the Lsi's. But you have your subs built in so it's a trade off there. Add a sub to the Lsi's and your getting close to the same price.
    Again speakers are personal. I like both companies for what they offer. I don't really care for Def tech BP line. I sat with them and found them to be alittle bright and forward. I liked the Revel F32's much better when I directly compared them. But the Mythos St's keep me coming back and wanting more.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,204
    edited March 2009
    Murray1 wrote: »
    Mantis,

    Looking to purchase LSi 15's or 9's on Polk's ebay refurbished site. Should I re-consider and purchase Definite Tech speakers? I am building a HT system but will also likely enjoy music via blueray music videos (i.e. HD audio). If I should be looking at DT's, what is the best price you have seen for a pair - factory refurbs ok?
    You should listen to both lines and decide which one you like better. Lsi's in my opinion are for a music first sytem that does HT. Def Tech speakers are for a HT system first then music as well. Lsi's are hard to drive and require a power amp or a really high end receiver that supports 4 ohm load without running out of gas, Def Tech can be ran off of regular receivers as they are 8 ohm load and in the 90's db. So this is a consideration when purchasing any speakers. Rti speakers are great for Home theater and they can play music as well.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited March 2009
    mantis wrote: »
    The Mythos St's are $4000.00 so they are a lot more then the Lsi's. But you have your subs built in so it's a trade off there. Add a sub to the Lsi's and your getting close to the same price.
    Again speakers are personal. I like both companies for what they offer. I don't really care for Def tech BP line. I sat with them and found them to be alittle bright and forward. I liked the Revel F32's much better when I directly compared them. But the Mythos St's keep me coming back and wanting more.

    Thanks. I am familiar with the price, I just believe they are a little steeply priced, IMO. It's seems pretty difficult in getting a better deal than MSRP with Def Tech, something I'd never pay.

    For HT, I'd personally want a seperate sub anyway than whats in the ST. For music the ST would serve its purpose. I'm almost thinking that the Mythos 1's with a kick **** sub would be better suited for me. Remember, you can always move subwoofers around to get the best in room response, it's a little difficult getting the towers dialed in correctly, the reason I'm not digging the built-in subwoofers.

    BTW, I've never heard them at high volumes, but a review I read on them stated there was some compression due to the cabinet volume I believe. I'll find the link and post it.
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,204
    edited March 2009
    MikeC78 wrote: »
    Thanks. I am familiar with the price, I just believe they are a little steeply priced, IMO. It's seems pretty difficult in getting a better deal than MSRP with Def Tech, something I'd never pay.

    For HT, I'd personally want a seperate sub anyway than whats in the ST. For music the ST would serve its purpose. I'm almost thinking that the Mythos 1's with a kick **** sub would be better suited for me. Remember, you can always move subwoofers around to get the best in room response, it's a little difficult getting the towers dialed in correctly, the reason I'm not digging the built-in subwoofers.

    BTW, I've never heard them at high volumes, but a review I read on them stated there was some compression due to the cabinet volume I believe. I'll find the link and post it.
    The St built in woofers give you 2 as you know. 2 subs placed exaclty where your mains are will provide smooth even bass in a wider area then 1 sub. One sub does a sweet spot very well but doesn't cover as well. I would add 1 Supercube to the mix in the back of the room for even more even bass response.
    O the mighty 1's yes I like them alot. I have listened and listened. Shame you don't like close I would invite you to our showroom where I would demo them for yeah. They are very musical and smooth. I really dig that speaker. Almost enough to take them home. We have a pair of Silver on the floor which we are blowing out cheap. Boss just wants to move them as Silver is no longer is style at least in the custom world. I beg to differ as they are sexy as hell in Silver. We have a matching center and rears in the 6 I believe. They are connected to a Pioneer ELite vsx03txh and I can sit there and listen for hours. No sub just the ones. The bass is very smooth and go kinda deep. They are rated at 20hz but I think there is no usable bass down there.
    We have good deals on Def Tech right now. If you find a model you really want, before you buy, talk to me, maybe I can get you a better deal.

    Dan
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited March 2009
    Thanks! PM'd

    Mike
  • mcs2000si
    mcs2000si Posts: 57
    edited March 2009
    I havea def tech pro 80 sub and its okay. It makes clean bass but when pushed the vent in the back hums a bit from air moving through it. They might have fixed this with recent models but just wanted to give you the feedback.

    -Matt
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,204
    edited March 2009
    mcs2000si wrote: »
    I havea def tech pro 80 sub and its okay. It makes clean bass but when pushed the vent in the back hums a bit from air moving through it. They might have fixed this with recent models but just wanted to give you the feedback.

    -Matt

    I think all feedback is good feedback. This forum is full of ups and downs with polk speakers so yeah man, let it rip.

    Dan
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited March 2009
    mantis wrote: »
    Do you mean a full range speaker without built in subs? because the Mythos St and STS hit below 20hz. This is considered full range. 20hz to 20khz is a full range speaker no matter how it's achieved. Personally I think the Mythos St and Sts smoke the lsi series for theater and it's a battle for music. Klispch and Rti series need not apply. This is my opinion.
    Mythos do not lack bottom end unless your referring to the Mythos 1. They don't dig to deep but what they do is incredible. I was listening to them just a few days ago and man I would be very happy with them with the right power and setup. Man very nice sounding speakers. Really nice.

    I auditioned Mythos 1.

    Don't get me wrong, they are nice speakers.
    Do you hear that buzzing noise? :confused:
  • von
    von Posts: 1
    edited September 2010
    mantis wrote: »
    They are very different. I would not replace my Audience series with Def Tech but I have different needs. I like a Music first speaker and Def Tech is all about the movies first then music.

    Some may say a speaker is a speaker but there are speakers that excel at theater and some excel at music. Rare will you find a one that does both well. Dynaudio speakers to me are the best sounding speakers in the world. I have yet to hear a better sounding speaker at any price. Dynaudio covers the entire spectrum. I would say there weakest point would be theater but they do it extremely well. Def tech may have a edge in that department not in clarity or detail but in impact and brute force. They excel at those areas. The voice I feel is better on my center but the Def Tech centers are amazing. I really like them.

    If I was building a theater first system, Def Tech would be very high on my list. Easy to drive and sound great with receivers.

    Dan

    Hello Dan,I have 15 year old BP-20's and they Sound Great for Music.They are Powered with a Crown DC-300-A,Preamp with a IC-150-A Played with a Sony CA8ES CD Player. The Low End kicks Butt
  • lakesailor
    lakesailor Posts: 319
    edited September 2010
    I had a Def. Tech Mythos system. I think you have to keep the Mythos in context. For a speaker that is extremely aesthetically pleasing and really is quite compact when you look at driver size and cabinet volume they really do a fairly decent job in your home theatre system.

    If room cosmetics and speaker size are considerations they Mythos system is a contender, but you are paying for the aesthetics and the relatively compact size. However don’t kid yourself, put the Mythos up against a similar costing system that uses quality drivers and more cabinet volume and it will thoroughly annihilate the Mythos. There will be no comparison.

    Depending on your needs the Mythos may or may not work for you.
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited December 2010
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    lakesailor wrote: »
    I had a Def. Tech Mythos system. I think you have to keep the Mythos in context. For a speaker that is extremely aesthetically pleasing and really is quite compact when you look at driver size and cabinet volume they really do a fairly decent job in your home theatre system.

    If room cosmetics and speaker size are considerations they Mythos system is a contender, but you are paying for the aesthetics and the relatively compact size. However don’t kid yourself, put the Mythos up against a similar costing system that uses quality drivers and more cabinet volume and it will thoroughly annihilate the Mythos. There will be no comparison.

    Depending on your needs the Mythos may or may not work for you.



    Don't let the size fool you, they play a lot bigger than there size.(ST/STS)
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,019
    edited December 2010
    If you don't like powered towers, why even consider the Mythos then ?
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited December 2010
    tonyb wrote: »
    If you don't like powered towers, why even consider the Mythos then ?


    They actually make non powered towers also, but will need a sub.
  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,606
    edited December 2010
    My Dad runs the BP2000's for his mains. He also has the BP2001TL's in another rig. I was always very impressed with them for HT. Never had a chance to listen to much 2 channel with them though.
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited December 2010
    ST's and STS's are both awesome speakers for HT. Music not my thing but HT. ROCK.
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited December 2010
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    ST's and STS's are both awesome speakers for HT. Music not my thing but HT. ROCK.


    With the right setup they rock. I was never able to listen to music with my RTI's in my HT room, now I can. Every store I listened to the st's at hadn't set them up properly. In house they're much much better.

    Funny thing when I went to Ultimate Electronics to hear them they had the ST's and some focals side by side and the whole time they were setup no one realized that one ST and one focal was playing together as a pair.

    At Flanner Audio they had a cheap denon avr and DVD player with the treble up all the way. I was wondering why they sounded so bright.