Just pulled the trigger on some MIT shotgun-3s...

Norm Apter
Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
edited February 2009 in The Clubhouse
Is this the first sign that I've gone totally insane?

A year ago if you would have told me that I'd drop this kind of coin on a pair of cables I would have told you that you were crazy. Now, I guess I'm the crazy one!

Norm
2 Ch.
Parasound Halo A23 Amp
Parasound Halo P3 Preamp
Parasound Halo T3 Tuner
Bada HD22SE tube CD Player
Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth
Magnum Dynalab ST-2 antenna
polkaudio Lsi9s (upgraded cross-overs)
MIT Shotgun S-3 Bi-wire Interface Speaker Cables
MIT Shotgun S-3 Interconnects (3)
IegO L70530 Power cords (3)

HT
Denon 2808ci AVR
polkaudio RTi A5s (fronts)
polkaudio RTi A1s (rears)
polkaudio Csi A6 (center)
Signal Cable Ultra Speaker Cables
Signal Cable Analog II Interconnects
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited January 2009
    You just made F1nut a happy man. Congrats, way to stimulate the economy.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,380
    edited January 2009
    I can call the guys with the straight jackets if you need me to...
    But I do thank you for doing your part for th eeconomy as well
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited January 2009
    Norm, you only think you're insane now...............wait 'til you hear them. Sanity will return..........then you'll do the V-8 move to the forehead and wonder why it took you so long to add them to your system :D
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited January 2009
    S3 is completely normal. Oracle, on the other hand...
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • del44
    del44 Posts: 686
    edited January 2009
    Congrats. I would like to hear your thoughts. The upgrade bug has been biting me lately.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2009
    IC's, Speakers or both?

    You know, you really need both to get MIT's best....;)
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  • Norm Apter
    Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
    edited January 2009
    Ricardo wrote: »
    IC's, Speakers or both?

    You know, you really need both to get MIT's best....;)

    Just ICs for now. I'll never say never (because -- I've learned -- its totally futile to do so) but it will be a little while until I could see myself not feeling guilty for taking the plunge on such expensive speaker cables as well.

    Actually, I'm buying these blind...never heard them before, so I'll need to sit down and compare them directly to my AQ Diamondbacks and SC Analog IIs. I figure that if I were to be dissatisfied with the MITs then I could probably find a buyer eventually. We'll see...
    2 Ch.
    Parasound Halo A23 Amp
    Parasound Halo P3 Preamp
    Parasound Halo T3 Tuner
    Bada HD22SE tube CD Player
    Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 antenna
    polkaudio Lsi9s (upgraded cross-overs)
    MIT Shotgun S-3 Bi-wire Interface Speaker Cables
    MIT Shotgun S-3 Interconnects (3)
    IegO L70530 Power cords (3)

    HT
    Denon 2808ci AVR
    polkaudio RTi A5s (fronts)
    polkaudio RTi A1s (rears)
    polkaudio Csi A6 (center)
    Signal Cable Ultra Speaker Cables
    Signal Cable Analog II Interconnects
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited January 2009
    Nope, nothing crazy at all about that. I have over 5K invested in just cables. Worth every damn penny too. Congrat's on your purchase Norm.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2009
    Make sure you break them in for at least 100 hours before you make any comparison; it takes a while for them to wake up.
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  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,621
    edited January 2009
    I just recently switched from Audioquest cables to the Shotgun S3 ICs and well, they do sound different. I'd say they have more of a fuller, robust, bassier, and less edge on the highs than the Audioquest. I'll be interested to hear your impressions.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,185
    edited January 2009
    May we have some pic's?? I enjoy looking at wire pic's.

    Dan
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  • daboyz
    daboyz Posts: 5,207
    edited January 2009
    Congrats Norm!!! Best way to go. So,when are you going to start the "Try MIT Shotgun's" thread?:D:D
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  • Norm Apter
    Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
    edited January 2009
    mantis wrote: »
    May we have some pic's?? I enjoy looking at wire pic's.

    Dan

    Hey Dan -- will certainly take some pics as soon as they arrive. It might be a little while now because I bought them on A-gon and I've had mixed luck on past purchases when it comes to sellers' ship time. Sellers are always prompt in responding when its a matter of giving you the paypal addy, but somehow things can tend to slowdown when it comes to shipping.

    I'm looking forward to seeing what these suckers actually look like.
    2 Ch.
    Parasound Halo A23 Amp
    Parasound Halo P3 Preamp
    Parasound Halo T3 Tuner
    Bada HD22SE tube CD Player
    Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 antenna
    polkaudio Lsi9s (upgraded cross-overs)
    MIT Shotgun S-3 Bi-wire Interface Speaker Cables
    MIT Shotgun S-3 Interconnects (3)
    IegO L70530 Power cords (3)

    HT
    Denon 2808ci AVR
    polkaudio RTi A5s (fronts)
    polkaudio RTi A1s (rears)
    polkaudio Csi A6 (center)
    Signal Cable Ultra Speaker Cables
    Signal Cable Analog II Interconnects
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  • Norm Apter
    Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
    edited January 2009
    daboyz wrote: »
    Congrats Norm!!! Best way to go. So,when are you going to start the "Try MIT Shotgun's" thread?:D:D

    Thanks, Dave, and all others -- you know who you are --who engaged me in conversation on the issue of ICs over the past few days. Despite my opening remarks, I actually am pretty excited about this venture. I'm totally satisfied with the main components in my system for now so just thinking of some ways to tweek it here and there.

    Will definately post my impressions after they arrive and I've had a chance to listen to them for a while.
    2 Ch.
    Parasound Halo A23 Amp
    Parasound Halo P3 Preamp
    Parasound Halo T3 Tuner
    Bada HD22SE tube CD Player
    Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 antenna
    polkaudio Lsi9s (upgraded cross-overs)
    MIT Shotgun S-3 Bi-wire Interface Speaker Cables
    MIT Shotgun S-3 Interconnects (3)
    IegO L70530 Power cords (3)

    HT
    Denon 2808ci AVR
    polkaudio RTi A5s (fronts)
    polkaudio RTi A1s (rears)
    polkaudio Csi A6 (center)
    Signal Cable Ultra Speaker Cables
    Signal Cable Analog II Interconnects
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  • Hobbyguy
    Hobbyguy Posts: 317
    edited January 2009
    Whats a good price for shotgun 3s
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  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,621
    edited January 2009
    2 Bills
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,459
    edited January 2009
    Try $300.00. If you got them for $200.00, you stole them.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,335
    edited January 2009
    Congrats Norm! MIT makes some great cables. I know that you will enjoy them.
    Carl

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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,185
    edited January 2009
    Norm Apter wrote: »
    Hey Dan -- will certainly take some pics as soon as they arrive. It might be a little while now because I bought them on A-gon and I've had mixed luck on past purchases when it comes to sellers' ship time. Sellers are always prompt in responding when its a matter of giving you the paypal addy, but somehow things can tend to slowdown when it comes to shipping.

    I'm looking forward to seeing what these suckers actually look like.

    Cool, I hope they serve your system well.

    Dan
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited January 2009
    Congrats on the MIT's Norm. Once you hear them, there is no turning back. Looking forward to hearing your assessment.
    Michael ;)
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited February 2009
    Congrats ! Don't forget to list your old ones for sale- to defray your costs on the MITs ! AQs are better than the "M" brand ICs I'm using now,so I'd be interested along with many other folks on here !:)
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  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,621
    edited February 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    Try $300.00. If you got them for $200.00, you stole them.

    yep, 2 bills from audiogon. Great deal from Woody. I believe Norm got the 2M ones from audiogon as well. Some guy was selling 3 2M S3s for 2 bills each. Mine are 1M. One left I believe:

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?cablintr&1237849191&/MIT-shotgun-s3-interconnect
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  • Norm Apter
    Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
    edited February 2009
    Polkitup2 wrote: »
    yep, 2 bills from audiogon. Great deal from Woody. I believe Norm got the 2M ones from audiogon as well. Some guy was selling 3 2M S3s for 2 bills each. Mine are 1M. One left I believe:

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?cablintr&1237849191&/MIT-shotgun-s3-interconnect

    Movin on up like George Jefferson.

    Yeah, I picked up a 2m pair for 200 on A-gon. They arrived today and I am impressed indeed. I didn't doubt that the S-3s would be beneficial to some really nicer, higher level gear than what I've got, but I didn't really know what to expect.

    Well, any doubt I had has been dispelled. I ran all sorts of back to back tests with these (vs. a basic pair of Dayton Audio RCAs from Parts Express and then against the Signal Cable Analog IIs) and the Shotguns were a clear winner...I mean in either of the shootouts...it took no longer than 5 seconds to discern the superiority of the S-3s. It pretty much hits ya over the head. I didn't pit the S-3s against the D-backs because I got only one pair of S-3s and I'll have to use the two (D-backs and S-3s) in combination with one another for a while (until I figure out my next move).

    I'm terrible at describing and comparing the sound but for lack of better words here is what I found:

    From the Dayton & SC combo to AQ & SC combo there was a noticebly crisper sound with the AQ. Then from the AQ & SC combo to the AQ & MIT S-3s combo, all of that crispness was retained but the sounds of the instruments were more focused (less disparate) and fuller, more up-front which is just what I was/am looking for, given the Parasound (neutral) and Lsi (laid back) combo.

    You know I went back and listened to different CDs with the Dayton & SC combo afterwards and I still would think, "hey this sounds pretty damn good." Its only when you can compare them back to back that you hear what the other possibilities are.

    In sum, these S-3s will be staying right where they are for a mighty long time...

    Mantis (Dan) asked that I post a pic of the cables. I took a pic, but am still having trouble adding it. I went into the Control Panel, as instructed, but I can't seem to find the link for creating a photo album for posting pics. If anyone can explain this, please do so.

    Norm
    2 Ch.
    Parasound Halo A23 Amp
    Parasound Halo P3 Preamp
    Parasound Halo T3 Tuner
    Bada HD22SE tube CD Player
    Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 antenna
    polkaudio Lsi9s (upgraded cross-overs)
    MIT Shotgun S-3 Bi-wire Interface Speaker Cables
    MIT Shotgun S-3 Interconnects (3)
    IegO L70530 Power cords (3)

    HT
    Denon 2808ci AVR
    polkaudio RTi A5s (fronts)
    polkaudio RTi A1s (rears)
    polkaudio Csi A6 (center)
    Signal Cable Ultra Speaker Cables
    Signal Cable Analog II Interconnects
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2009
    Excellent cables.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited February 2009
    Power cords are next Norm. :eek: :D:)
    Michael ;)
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    NORTH of 60°
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  • John30_30
    John30_30 Posts: 1,024
    edited February 2009
    Norm Apter wrote: »
    Is this the first sign that I've gone totally insane?

    A year ago if you would have told me that I'd drop this kind of coin on a pair of cables I would have told you that you were crazy. Now, I guess I'm the crazy one!

    Norm

    There ain't no Sanity Clause.
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  • Norm Apter
    Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
    edited February 2009
    janmike wrote: »
    Power cords are next Norm. :eek: :D:)

    Don't give me any ideas, Michael. :eek: The content in Daboyz's recent thread on CDP already has sweet visions of new players dancing in my head.
    2 Ch.
    Parasound Halo A23 Amp
    Parasound Halo P3 Preamp
    Parasound Halo T3 Tuner
    Bada HD22SE tube CD Player
    Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 antenna
    polkaudio Lsi9s (upgraded cross-overs)
    MIT Shotgun S-3 Bi-wire Interface Speaker Cables
    MIT Shotgun S-3 Interconnects (3)
    IegO L70530 Power cords (3)

    HT
    Denon 2808ci AVR
    polkaudio RTi A5s (fronts)
    polkaudio RTi A1s (rears)
    polkaudio Csi A6 (center)
    Signal Cable Ultra Speaker Cables
    Signal Cable Analog II Interconnects
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited February 2009
    If you are using stock cords Norm, let me know and I can maybe send you a little something. Nothing special, just perhaps different and maybe better.
    Michael ;)
    In the beginning, all knowledge was new!
    NORTH of 60°
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  • Norm Apter
    Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
    edited February 2009
    janmike wrote: »
    If you are using stock cords Norm, let me know and I can maybe send you a little something. Nothing special, just perhaps different and maybe better.

    Thats a very nice offer, Michael. Just sent you a PM.

    Oh, and I need especially to give a shout out and public thanks to Reeltrouble who was particularly instrumental in turning me on to these and helping me get a great deal on them. Thanks, Ted!

    Norm
    2 Ch.
    Parasound Halo A23 Amp
    Parasound Halo P3 Preamp
    Parasound Halo T3 Tuner
    Bada HD22SE tube CD Player
    Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 antenna
    polkaudio Lsi9s (upgraded cross-overs)
    MIT Shotgun S-3 Bi-wire Interface Speaker Cables
    MIT Shotgun S-3 Interconnects (3)
    IegO L70530 Power cords (3)

    HT
    Denon 2808ci AVR
    polkaudio RTi A5s (fronts)
    polkaudio RTi A1s (rears)
    polkaudio Csi A6 (center)
    Signal Cable Ultra Speaker Cables
    Signal Cable Analog II Interconnects
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited February 2009
    PM back and pc cord will be shipped next week.
    Michael ;)
    In the beginning, all knowledge was new!
    NORTH of 60°
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