Butt Shakers??

trinidesignz
trinidesignz Posts: 97
edited September 2009 in Electronics
Anyone one ever use buttshakers / Aura Pro Bass Shaker
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...606137#reviews

I was just sitting here looking online for DEALS and ran across this and fellas I was BLOWN:eek:AWAY by how much excellent reviews it got.

I posted this in speakers section and 1 post so I thought I would try it here.
Hope you guys don't mind.
Samsung-55 LED
Denon 3808ci
RTi A5 (Fronts)
CSi A6 (Center)
FXi 5 (Rears)
Velodyne DPS-12 (Sub)
EMOTIVA XPA-5 :D:cool::p;):)
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited January 2009
    I don't use the Auras, but I do have Guitammer's Buttkicker LFE mounted to the couch. Tactile transducers work really well if dialed in properly, and definitely add to the experience. I've got mine set to subtly fill in subsonics as my SVS 20-39CS+ reaches its native rolloff, and I love it.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,229
    edited January 2009
    We carry Buttkickers and we just Installed one last week in a basement. Concrete underneath the padding and rug and it worked good for 3 chairs with only 1 kicker. I believe if we had 4 chairs it would have been fine. It's fun to dial in 2. Add alittle or take a little away. It's like feeling your sub a lot more. It also I felt helped the overall experience due to the concrete floor underneath. I like a floating floor out of wood. You feel the sub a lot more.

    Well worth the asking price and you get a cool little amp to put in your rack.

    Dan
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited January 2009
    can u demo me the buttkickers??

    I plan to buy few but would like to demo them first..
    I am 100% BORN DEAF and No I am not kidding! :D Why am I here? My wife's hearing! :p

    My Home Theater Rig || Television: 58" Panasonic TH-58PZ800U Viera Plasma || Power Conditioner: Power Monster HTS 3600 MKII || Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR805 || Blu-Ray/Gaming: 60 Gigabytes Playstation 3 || Amplifier: Emotiva XPA-5 || Fronts: Polk Audio RT800i || Center: Polk Audio CS245i || Surrounds: TBA|| Subwoofer: TBA
  • bigred7078
    bigred7078 Posts: 477
    edited January 2009
    i've always thought buttkickers were stupid, that is until my buddy got some and i actually got to try them out. For a movie they are alot of fun to have. They really add that extra thump.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited January 2009
    I've never gotten to try those out before...it sounds like it would be awesome though.
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  • trinidesignz
    trinidesignz Posts: 97
    edited January 2009
    I have looking up online & I see some people saying they have to get a separate receiver jus for the butt kicker. Do you guys think my denon will be good enough?
    Samsung-55 LED
    Denon 3808ci
    RTi A5 (Fronts)
    CSi A6 (Center)
    FXi 5 (Rears)
    Velodyne DPS-12 (Sub)
    EMOTIVA XPA-5 :D:cool::p;):)
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2009
    Fake and Ridiculous are two good words for them.
  • trinidesignz
    trinidesignz Posts: 97
    edited January 2009
    ok thanks NJ lolol.
    Samsung-55 LED
    Denon 3808ci
    RTi A5 (Fronts)
    CSi A6 (Center)
    FXi 5 (Rears)
    Velodyne DPS-12 (Sub)
    EMOTIVA XPA-5 :D:cool::p;):)
  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited January 2009
    I have looking up online & I see some people saying they have to get a separate receiver jus for the butt kicker. Do you guys think my denon will be good enough?

    You will need amp for it. Buttkicker power Amplifier

    1000 Watts @ 4 ohms
    • 1900 Watts @ 2 ohms
    • Can power 1, 2, 3, or 4 ButtKicker LFE transducers
    • Class D switching technology
    • Variable high cutoff, 40 - 160 Hz
    • Low cutoff, 25 Hz switchable
    • RCA and 1/4” inputs with 160m Volt and 1.25 Volt sensitivities
    • Either 120v or 240v versions. NOT SWITCHABLE


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    12" wide, 12" deep by 4.625" off the ground.
    I am 100% BORN DEAF and No I am not kidding! :D Why am I here? My wife's hearing! :p

    My Home Theater Rig || Television: 58" Panasonic TH-58PZ800U Viera Plasma || Power Conditioner: Power Monster HTS 3600 MKII || Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR805 || Blu-Ray/Gaming: 60 Gigabytes Playstation 3 || Amplifier: Emotiva XPA-5 || Fronts: Polk Audio RT800i || Center: Polk Audio CS245i || Surrounds: TBA|| Subwoofer: TBA
  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited January 2009
    Yeah, you don't have to get a separate receiver. You just need an amp. I'm running my Buttkicker LFE off of one channel of a Samson 1,000w rackmount amp that I already had 'cause my SVS 20-39CS+ is running off the other channel.

    I won the Buttkicker in a contest over at Secrets Of Home Theater And Hi-Fi... and I was gonna sell it, but then I tried it out and couldn't bring myself to part with it.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,229
    edited January 2009
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    Fake and Ridiculous are two good words for them.

    SO I will assume you never watched a movie with them huh? Not a movie lover? Not into feeling the movie?

    When properly setup , they are a really cool devise. When not properly setup they are very annoying.

    I find them to work well in all situations but the one I enjoy doing the most is a basement or slab theater. This is where the sub or subs don't shake the ground. You feel the pressure from the subs but don't actually shake from them like if you where on a floating floor. The butt kicker adds that experience back in. They are not necessary in a well designed floating floor theater with multi subs as you can tune the room for the correct amount of "shake" if you will.
    Don't frown on which you do not understand.

    Dan
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    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • NotaSuv
    NotaSuv Posts: 3,869
    edited January 2009
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    Fake and Ridiculous are two good words for them.

    yes maybe those are good words for one who hasnt experinced them set up correctly..for movies i was quite impressed , theyadded to the fun of watching........but then again there are those who say cables make no difference either :rolleyes:
  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited January 2009
    got 2 word for it. Less Cops
    I am 100% BORN DEAF and No I am not kidding! :D Why am I here? My wife's hearing! :p

    My Home Theater Rig || Television: 58" Panasonic TH-58PZ800U Viera Plasma || Power Conditioner: Power Monster HTS 3600 MKII || Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR805 || Blu-Ray/Gaming: 60 Gigabytes Playstation 3 || Amplifier: Emotiva XPA-5 || Fronts: Polk Audio RT800i || Center: Polk Audio CS245i || Surrounds: TBA|| Subwoofer: TBA
  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited January 2009
    For me, the Buttkicker recreated the slight vibration I feel in most movie theaters. I've got mine dialed back so it's very subtle and blends nicely with my subwoofer (though my sub is solid down to 18Hz). You don't really pay attention to it until a movie has some deep gut-wrenching room-pressurizing bass, then it adds just that little extra touch that makes it feel like you are there in the movie. Mantis is right about it making a carpet on slab floor feel like a floating wood floor.

    I've also really loved mine for music. You get just enough of it with bass guitar and kick drums that it recreates that feel of being at a concert, and feeling the bass resonate through your body. I occasionally spin the DVD-A of Beck's Sea Change just to experience it.

    Now, if you have them dialed up so much that it's constantly shaking your couch like an amusement park ride, you aren't "wrong"... but you're SO missing the point.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2009
    The only reason I have voiced my opinion is because I have had the experience. In my opinion its sooooo very fake its ridiculous. Gimmick is another good word by the way.
    Children would enjoy it for awhile then after maybe 10 minutes they would find it annoying.

    Mantis, a real cool devise? For me its a fake, a gimmick and unreal oh yeah silly too.
    My opinion and I am happy for you guys who like it.
    Drew
  • michaeljhsda2
    michaeljhsda2 Posts: 2,186
    edited January 2009
    mantis wrote: »
    SO I will assume you never watched a movie with them huh? Not a movie lover? Not into feeling the movie?

    When properly setup , they are a really cool devise. When not properly setup they are very annoying.

    I find them to work well in all situations but the one I enjoy doing the most is a basement or slab theater. This is where the sub or subs don't shake the ground. You feel the pressure from the subs but don't actually shake from them like if you where on a floating floor. The butt kicker adds that experience back in. They are not necessary in a well designed floating floor theater with multi subs as you can tune the room for the correct amount of "shake" if you will.
    Don't frown on which you do not understand.

    Dan


    +1, I think the bass shakers work great, plus the neighbors can't hear em'.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,229
    edited January 2009
    NJPOLKER wrote: »
    The only reason I have voiced my opinion is because I have had the experience. In my opinion its sooooo very fake its ridiculous. Gimmick is another good word by the way.
    Children would enjoy it for awhile then after maybe 10 minutes they would find it annoying.

    Mantis, a real cool devise? For me its a fake, a gimmick and unreal oh yeah silly too.
    My opinion and I am happy for you guys who like it.
    Drew

    I believe you had a improper demo. you have to dial them in so you don't get this kind of experience.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • CaligulaPolk
    CaligulaPolk Posts: 1,650
    edited January 2009
    mantis wrote: »
    I believe you had a improper demo. you have to dial them in so you don't get this kind of experience.

    lol, u never got back to me if there's buttkicker demo at your work.
    I am 100% BORN DEAF and No I am not kidding! :D Why am I here? My wife's hearing! :p

    My Home Theater Rig || Television: 58" Panasonic TH-58PZ800U Viera Plasma || Power Conditioner: Power Monster HTS 3600 MKII || Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR805 || Blu-Ray/Gaming: 60 Gigabytes Playstation 3 || Amplifier: Emotiva XPA-5 || Fronts: Polk Audio RT800i || Center: Polk Audio CS245i || Surrounds: TBA|| Subwoofer: TBA
  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited September 2009
    I was thinking about adding a couple of these to my back deck that has 3 chairs. When you guys are saying you need to "dial them in", what exactly do you mean? How much calibrating is required, or, what kind of calibrating?
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited September 2009
    Basically, you don't want them to be noticeable ALL THE TIME. If you have them turned up too high, every bass note in music will shake you and the perceived effect will be kinda like you have your subwoofer way overcranked. People don't even notice mine until something explodes in a movie.

    You know that feeling you get in the theater with deep bass where you feel the seats vibrate? That's what you're trying to achieve. You're basically trying to dial it to a level where it complements your subwoofer such that it seems your subwoofer can go WAY deeper than normal. I can run a bass sweep and not notice my Buttkicker until around 40Hz... where it seems to take over from my subwoofer. It's just a matter of finding a level that makes it feel less like you have a tactile transducer and more like your subwoofer has really deep extension.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
  • Gaara
    Gaara Posts: 2,415
    edited September 2009
    Ron-P wrote: »
    I was thinking about adding a couple of these to my back deck that has 3 chairs. When you guys are saying you need to "dial them in", what exactly do you mean? How much calibrating is required, or, what kind of calibrating?

    For myself "dialing them in" meant not making it a seamless transition from sub to buttkicker, but having no transition at all. IMO if you can tell where the sub leaves off and the buttkicker kicks in then they are set to high. I have mine set where they don't really notice them unless the bass is <20hz.

    As for how to do this, I use frequency sweeps / test tones, and movies. My main one recently is War of the Worlds, the lighting strike scene has bass from 5hz-50hz, the pod emergence scene has lots of <20hz, and the heat-ray scene is strong at 30hz.

    The heat-ray scene is great because if the buttkicker is set to high then the couch shakes and its gimicky, set just right it shakes slightly and you feel it hit your chest. The lightning scene if set to high you can hear the buttkicker rumble from the single digit bass, set perfectly every strike makes the room shudder (from my SVS) as well as the loveseat.