Emotiva UMC-1
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Just thought it'd be fun to bring this up again. Now they're saying February 2010. I'm VERY glad I didn't bother with ordering one of these things. What a joke.
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That's more than two years late, IIRC. I bought one of the last LMC-1 units back in 2007.
Yah, at this rate, HDMI 1.4 will be out before they get this thing released.
Without starting an Emotiva fanboi flame war, can someone tell me what the point of getting this (UMC-1) over an Onkyo AVR like the 806 (for an equivalent amount of money, and only use the pre/pro section)? -
The Onkyo's musicality is very poor(as most avr's)for ht it's fine.But,I can also tell ya,many "fanboys" are gettin' wore down waitin'.
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JohnLocke88 wrote: »Just thought it'd be fun to bring this up again. Now they're saying February 2010. I'm VERY glad I didn't bother with ordering one of these things. What a joke.
They are saying Feb 2010 for in-stock orders. The units are actually shipping right now to the pre-order customers. I hope the wait was worth it. -
They are saying Feb 2010 for in-stock orders. The units are actually shipping right now to the pre-order customers. I hope the wait was worth it.
They are not shipping any units at this time.
I think integrating the HDMI 1.3a specs is proving more difficult than many people, at several manufacturers, anticipated.Proud SOPA Member since 2005! -
They are not shipping any units at this time.
I think integrating the HDMI 1.3a specs is proving more difficult than many people, at several manufacturers, anticipated.
Ya, I just saw the post from the other Friday nite. Damn, can't they get this done?
Using an HK AVR 3600 as my pre-pro...
So is this to blame on Cirrus Logic, Emotiva, or Emotiva for going with Cirrus Logic? -
I've been on the pre-order list since summer 2008. Broke down and got a Pioneer Elite SC-05 instead. The sound quality is so good I no longer feel the need for separates.
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The Onkyo's musicality is very poor(as most avr's)for ht it's fine.But,I can also tell ya,many "fanboys" are gettin' wore down waitin'.
Is the UMC-1 supposed to be more "musical?" Anyone who uses an AVR for 2-channel is obviously not going to be in the $3,000 cables club. I didn't think Emotiva's processors were known for their stellar reference quality either.
When I was first looking at it, the UMC-1 had 5 HDMI 1.3a, and a host of other cool stuff that Onkyos/Denons and such didn't have below the $1,000 price mark. Now it seems, what's the point? Unless there's some other nifty features I'm not aware of. -
I'm most excited about Dolby Volume.Proud SOPA Member since 2005!
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It is official the UMC-1 has landed. Now I just want to read a review...
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JohnLocke88 wrote: »Is the UMC-1 supposed to be more "musical?" Anyone who uses an AVR for 2-channel is obviously not going to be in the $3,000 cables club. I didn't think Emotiva's processors were known for their stellar reference quality either.
What is 'reference quality'? I will agree the Emo's pre-pro's haven't been 'all that' to date. -
What is 'reference quality'? I will agree the Emo's pre-pro's haven't been 'all that' to date.
Not sure what it means technically. All I know is that it starts a nuclear holocaust every time someone mentions reference and Emotiva in the same sentence.
On that note, let me go grab my radiation suit and retreat to my bomb shelter. -
Lol!
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I'll be interested to read the review too. My B&K REF50S2 is at its final leg, has served me well over the past 6 years. I am not going to go with REF70, based on all the issues current owners have gone through. So, the choice is down to Parasound Halo C3 (which is still not released yet). If UMC-1 review is good (assuming that HT processing is where it will shines) I'll be most interested to hear about its analog quality (i.e. pass through), and if it compares favorably against REF50.
Jinjuku, are you getting one?I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie. -
I'll be interested to read the review too. My B&K REF50S2 is at its final leg, has served me well over the past 6 years. I am not going to go with REF70, based on all the issues current owners have gone through. So, the choice is down to Parasound Halo C3 (which is still not released yet). If UMC-1 review is good (assuming that HT processing is where it will shines) I'll be most interested to hear about its analog quality (i.e. pass through), and if it compares favorably against REF50.
Jinjuku, are you getting one?
No, got tired of waiting. I have an HK AVR 3600 doing pre-pro. It helps when a buddy works at Harman...
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A couple of people have already received their UMC-1's. Check the Lounge.engtaz
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My umc1 will be delivered 1-11,Monday.As to "reference" well get out yer wallet cause you'll need to spend $5k for starters.As to hk's and the like,I'm a fan owned a 7200,7300,630,635,none of which could touch the lmc/lpa combo for music but still way ahead of Onkyo/Denon,only Marantz was =.The 7200 was actually really bad,the worst of all hk's I owned which I returned and cost me $50,a deal as far as I am concerned.And as far as buggy,if you've had an hk you should know the multitude of issues from cosmetics to memory.I also have an Onkyo 606 that has no fm on right channel,I had an 805 that burned out an hdmi input and could not be updated without a scientist assisting.
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NOBODY goes to Communist China to get the best QUALITY. They go to China to CUT COSTS and IMPROVE PROFIT MARGINS while appearing to offer "bang for the buck".
Lord knows, I don't have a problem with a "manufacturer" subcontracting the actual product assembly--Aragon, for example, used that strategy very successfully. Aragon had the product built by assembly specialists in Connecticut and California; and they PAID ATTENTION to how the product was actually built.
Subcontracting to the Communists--you know, the same people who can't make toys without illegal lead paint; can't make toothpaste without poisonous anti-freeze for sweetener; can't make Sheetrock without poisonous formaldehyde; can't make PET FOOD or BABY FORMULA without poisonous melamine; can't make ANYTHING without ignoring their own environmental laws (yeah, they have laws protecting their environment, but they don't enforce them)--how much do you think they care about your electronics? The fifty-cent-an-hour twelve-year-olds working in the plant probably get beaten if they doesn't make quota. Product quality and YOUR listening satisfaction are sure to be her first priority.
The USA needs an ABSOLUTE EMBARGO against Communist-sourced products (except raw materials) but since the Chinese and the Communist Collaborators own our government, what's RIGHT and NEEDED is most unlikely to happen.
It's unfortunate that the Communists and the Communist Collaborators in this country have already destroyed large swaths of American industry, and for some product categories, there IS NO domestic option any more. Buying Communist product when there are competitive American, North American, or Free World products available is evil. The price in dollars may be attractive; but it also costs your soul. -
NOBODY goes to Communist China to get the best QUALITY. They go to China to CUT COSTS and IMPROVE PROFIT MARGINS while appearing to offer "bang for the buck".
Lord knows, I don't have a problem with a "manufacturer" subcontracting the actual product assembly--Aragon, for example, used that strategy very successfully. Aragon had the product built by assembly specialists in Connecticut and California; and they PAID ATTENTION to how the product was actually built.
Subcontracting to the Communists--you know, the same people who can't make toys without illegal lead paint; can't make toothpaste without poisonous anti-freeze for sweetener; can't make Sheetrock without poisonous formaldehyde; can't make PET FOOD or BABY FORMULA without poisonous melamine; can't make ANYTHING without ignoring their own environmental laws (yeah, they have laws protecting their environment, but they don't enforce them)--how much do you think they care about your electronics? The fifty-cent-an-hour twelve-year-olds working in the plant probably get beaten if they doesn't make quota. Product quality and YOUR listening satisfaction are sure to be her first priority.
The USA needs an ABSOLUTE EMBARGO against Communist-sourced products (except raw materials) but since the Chinese and the Communist Collaborators own our government, what's RIGHT and NEEDED is most unlikely to happen.
It's unfortunate that the Communists and the Communist Collaborators in this country have already destroyed large swaths of American industry, and for some product categories, there IS NO domestic option any more. Buying Communist product when there are competitive American, North American, or Free World products available is evil. The price in dollars may be attractive; but it also costs your soul.
You sound like Joe McCarthey! -
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NOBODY goes to Communist China to get the best QUALITY. They go to China to CUT COSTS and IMPROVE PROFIT MARGINS while appearing to offer "bang for the buck".
Subcontracting to the Communists--you know, the same people who can't make toys without illegal lead paint; can't make toothpaste without poisonous anti-freeze for sweetener; can't make Sheetrock without poisonous formaldehyde; can't make PET FOOD or BABY FORMULA without poisonous melamine; can't make ANYTHING without ignoring their own environmental ....bla, bla, bla.
You got it wrong, truth is China CAN make quality products. But it will cost you more than so many are willing to spend; manufacturers, retailers, and consumers. Same as anywhere else, you could get that Aragon assembled here for $8/hr, or here for $25/hr, which location will have the better skilled and motivated work force?
The "Buy American the job you save may be your own" might have had a chance in the 70's, but it didn't catch on. McCarthyism didn't catch on ether and died out in the 50s'. Where have you been? -
You got it wrong, truth is China CAN make quality products. But it will cost you more than so many are willing to spend; manufacturers, retailers, and consumers. Same as anywhere else, you could get that Aragon assembled here for $8/hr, or here for $25/hr, which location will have the better skilled and motivated work force?
The "Buy American the job you save may be your own" might have had a chance in the 70's, but it didn't catch on. McCarthyism didn't catch on ether and died out in the 50s'. Where have you been?
Audio Space is a serious high end audio make from China. In fact, their statement preamp was the first Chinese company to receive an Editor's Choice Award from TAS. I'm reviewing the company's current CDP as we speak.
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^^^^^^^Sorry for the incoherency in the post above. I'd been out drinking trying to keep my bro in good spirits . . .
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I've been over at the lounge reading up on the UMC-1, I'm interested in it mostly because of the small size. Reports are it has a serious bug, when running the auto calibration it blasts out at a level so loud it damages speakers, wonder if EMO covers that? Maybe in another year and a half they will have the bugs out, like the LMC-1. Very disappointing.
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I've been over at the lounge reading up on the UMC-1, I'm interested in it mostly because of the small size. Reports are it has a serious bug, when running the auto calibration it blasts out at a level so loud it damages speakers, wonder if EMO covers that? Maybe in another year and a half they will have the bugs out, like the LMC-1. Very disappointing.
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IReports are it has a serious bug, when running the auto calibration it blasts out at a level so loud it damages speakers
That's bad. REF50 also has the tendency of doing this, during calibration (albeit manual). Good thing is my amp immediately went into protection mode when the tone level get too high.I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie. -
hearingimpared wrote: »:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
I wasn't that suprised. Other bugs are that it does not hold video or speker level settings when it's turned off. How could they miss basic crap like this with delay after delay... -
I wasn't that suprised. Other bugs are that it does not hold video or speker level settings when it's turned off. How could they miss basic crap like this with delay after delay...
Wow that's pretty bad. I guess they don't want to go the MicroSoft route and have customer debugging.:D
