snow slide in your car

danger boy

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I never get tired of watching this. I'm easily amused I guess... Ooo look, something shiny.

comfortablycurt

Ah yes...the many joys of wintertime.

One of my friends cars got totaled a few days ago when they were at a stop sign. They pulled up behind someone and stopped, then some lady in a Chevy Suburban came sliding into the back of them at like 20 mph...his trunk was basically in his back seat. No one got hurt though at least...

I've been seeing cars sliding everywhere lately though...

ViperZ

"Normal" winter conditions... more snow tomorrow!

Kex

comfortablycurt wrote: »

... They pulled up behind someone and stopped, then some lady in a Chevy Suburban came sliding into the back of them at like 20 mph...his trunk was basically in his back seat. ...

The sheer weight of that thing, with a rigid frame construction, is going to be pretty unforgiving for any car with crumple zone shock absorbtion. When our Chevy truck starts to slide, it doesn't really stop for anyone.

leroyjr1

Just watched the video and was wondering why in the hell would you jump out a slidding car

zingo

You guys have been dominated by snow overthere lately! Luckily, I've only seen one person in the ditch lately.

danger boy wrote: »

I never get tired of watching this. I'm easily amused I guess... Ooo look, something shiny.

disneyjoe7

I'm amassed that there are so many people who are clueless to drive on the snow. Car's will not steer when wheels are locked up. And to think these people live and drive in area's which snow.

danger boy

true.. even though it looks like 1963 here. trust me this was just yesterday downtown. :rolleyes:

comfortablycurt

Kex wrote: »

The sheer weight of that thing, with a rigid frame construction, is going to be pretty unforgiving for any car with crumple zone shock absorbtion. When our Chevy truck starts to slide, it doesn't really stop for anyone.

His car was a 1990 Chevy Cavalier...not exactly a big car. I saw some pictures of it...and it was bad. The Suburban wasn't really that messed up though. It still had a decent amount of damage, but I doubt it'll get totalled.


And why were some of these people jumping out of their cars when they got stuck in a slide? That's like the dumbest thing you can do in a situation like that.

disneyjoe7

Just shows us that people in general rely on those "Anti-Lock" brakes to much. Sad I think people forgot how to drive if that fails, or it seems let least "Snow" messes the Anti Lock brakes up a lot.

audiobliss

Wow, people are idiots!!

They think they should jump out of the car and try stopping the sliding car behind them with their body instead of stay in it and take the (small!) impact of sliding into the car in front of them??

And, oh yeah...you're BOUND to regain traction with that brake pedal on the floor and the wheel cocked to one side!

Gosh!

lightman1

Dummies!
It's a balmy 18 degrees here in Mooresville NC. No snow or ice yet. Knockin' on wood!

Fireman32

comfortablycurt wrote: »

And why were some of these people jumping out of their cars when they got stuck in a slide? That's like the dumbest thing you can do in a situation like that.

I was thinking the same thing. That one person who jumped out almost got hit by another car.

ViperZ

Holy cow! Beautiful almost empty highway this morning. The road is (seems to be) very clean, the temperature is -10C (cccold), no snow, clear and sunny.

The guy in brand new Nissan Versa (dealers plates on it) wiped out right in front of me (doing 65-70 mph)... he got sooo lucky there were snowbanks on the sides of the highway.

bobman1235

I was trying to see where those license plates were from in the video. No way that was a "normally" snowy area, in my 28 years in New England I've never seen someone jump out of a sliding car. That's got Darwin award written all over it.

disneyjoe7

I thought that license plates looked like New York not sure by any chance, but looked like it to me.

snow

bobman1235 wrote: »

I was trying to see where those license plates were from in the video. No way that was a "normally" snowy area, in my 28 years in New England I've never seen someone jump out of a sliding car. That's got Darwin award written all over it.

Actually there were 2 jumpers a girl first then a guy who was dragged on the sidewalk



REGARDS SNOW

disneyjoe7

What's with the cars going up hill, but they can't stop or steer down hill?

nadams

That looked more like snow-covered ice. It can be even worse than regular ice to drive on. Still... jumping out of your car? C'mon!

My trucks ABS is currently disabled (bad speed sensor), and I haven't had any problems driving in the snow so far. You have to get a feel for the pedal and where the tires are going to lock up. Then, just stay on the right side of that limit

disneyjoe7

Ok watching it again, there are people who can drive on "Snow" and others who are clueless. There's cars in the other lane making it down the hill with no problems one is a minivan which got to hard to drive down that hill. There are others driven up the hill.

All in all that is the strangest video I ever seen.

snow

disneyjoe7 wrote: »

What's with the cars going up hill, but they can't stop or steer down hill?

Physics lol It's easier to keep momentum going uphill on a slippery surface than it is to slow down on a slippery surface going downhill. Part of the reason why no one could either stop or steer is that everyone had there vehicles in gear and there brakes on at the same time instead of neutral it's almost impossible to stop on ice and steer if your drivetrain is pushing or pulling you, put it in nutral then you can steer and slow down much quicker. Also if you use your handbrake you can turn the car a different direction with a slide



REGARDS SNOW

disneyjoe7

Ok explain the minivan going down hill ok, then there's a small car doing it.

snow

disneyjoe7 wrote: »

Ok explain the minivan going down hill ok, then there's a small car doing it.

They didnt have there brakes on and there transmissions in drive at the same time, the ones that lost control where the ones that used there brakes. Once you hit your brakes then you have lost all grip/traction Far easier to steer and drive than to try to steer and stop without losing traction. And it looks a lot slicker in the right versus middle lanes.



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Jstas

The biggest thing about ice is to keep the wheels rolling. If the wheels are rolling, you have enough traction to control the vehicle. Of course, extreme and/or jerky steering and braking inputs will upset the apple cart enough to lock up wheels and lose traction. If I was on that hill though, the transmission would be in the lowest gear and using engine compression to slow the vehicle, not brakes.

If you have the car in gear and you need to slow down on ice, you have to push too hard on the brakes to overcome the engine torque AND the forward momentum to slow the car. You end up locking up a wheel or two and sliding. If the transmission is neutral, you only have to slow momentum and that takes less than half the braking force and the necessary force reduces exponentially as the vehicle slows.

If the vehicle is not in gear, you can lightly touch the brakes and slow down. If the vehicle is in gear, use down-shifts to slow the vehicle. Brakes should only be used to come to a complete stop.

Stopping on ice is a bad idea. Especially on a hill. Mainly because ice has a thin layer of water on it to lubricate the surface and it's probably one of the few times where locking up the wheels on your car can, under certain conditions (like on a hill), actually cause the vehicle to increase speed.

If you do have to stop and then start again, most automatics will allow you to select 2nd gear and lock the transmission in 2nd gear. It is not as low as 1st and does not multiply torque as much. It allows you to use your engine's power over a wider range. It also allows your engine to rev to it's power band without over torquing the tires and breaking traction. Manuals of course allow you to select any gear.

In all cases of foul weather driving in extreme conditions like snow/ice or heavy rain, it is a good practice to idle away from a stop. Most vehicles have enough power to get the car moving at around 3-5 MPH. Once the car is moving with momentum, you do not need as much traction to apply power because your momentum is working for you.

If you get stuck, well, there is no sure fire way because every "stuck" is a different "stuck" and it really matters what you are stuck in and what is underneath what you are stuck in. I will say though that it takes a real talent to rock an automatic equipped vehicle!

Remember folks, obey physics, it's the law!