Opinion: A respectable starter speaker cable

Igo

Thank goodness. So it is proven. A 30 foot wad of 1967 Arthur Fulmer 28 awg wire will work just fine with any audiophile grade streo speaker. Far out. LOL

ben62670

gdb wrote: »

Something to either inform or amuse you :
http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#reviewdares

Happy wiring

Yawn:rolleyes:
Those who know know. Those who don't know don't know they don't know;)
AudioQuest Type 4 used, or in the plain wrapper:)
Ben

MLZ

I keep seeing posts to buy Bluejeans cables, but for speaker cables BlueJeansCables is just a reseller of Canare StarQuad 4s11 and Belkin 5000 Series with the only value add being terminations. Never do I see a recomendation for a either brand and I wonder why since I don't think Canare and Belkin are equivalent. FYI: I did buy Canare from them because I wanted to try Bi-wiring which did nothing for me

gdb

Igo wrote: »

Thank goodness. So it is proven. A 30 foot wad of 1967 Arthur Fulmer 28 awg wire will work just fine with any audiophile grade streo speaker. Far out. LOL

Igo, until I get everything else up to par, I'm just using 12awg outdoor lighting cable (multistrand copper zipcord). Before I worry about speaker cables, I'm going to improve my ICs because I think they are more of an influence on sound qual. than spk. cables(as long as you're not using 28ga:D)
Then it's on to spk. cables!! I'll probably buy used ones to get a higher grade for less $$$, hopefully MITs of some sort. Whatever you do, DON"T buy MONSTER cable products that are new, that will enrich that A'hole company. I've bought some used ICs, so my money didn't go to Monster corp.;)

Igo

ben62670 wrote: »

Yawn:rolleyes:
Those who know know. Those who don't know don't know they don't know;)
AudioQuest Type 4 used, or in the plain wrapper:)
Ben

Point me in the used direction and I will follow.

Igo

gdb, I have 12 or 14 awg Monster Cable speaker wires that are very old and they are all I've used for years. Not a good or a bad thing, it's just what I have. One end is bare wire aand the other banana. They were a leap from lamp cord and a great leap at that. I'm ready for the next leap.

dorokusai

Signal Cable.

NJPOLKER

Igo
I have the pair of 10' AQ4's with spades all around I bought on Audiogon. How would you like to try them out and see if you like them? If so I will let you borrow them for awhile just send me a PM with your address and I'll send them to you.
Drew

skrol

I haven't paid too much attention to my speaker cables. I have 14 awg Esoteric (very basic stuff that looks like clear zip cord) for ~ 25' run for each channel. Is there an economical upgrade that I should consider?

Lowell_M

dkg999 wrote: »

+1 on the canare 4s11 star quad recommendation.

+2....

Igo

NJPOLKER wrote: »

Igo
I have the pair of 10' AQ4's with spades all around I bought on Audiogon. How would you like to try them out and see if you like them? If so I will let you borrow them for awhile just send me a PM with your address and I'll send them to you.
Drew

There you are. Hey, I answered this on your thread good sir.

Conradicles

ben62670 wrote: »

Yawn:rolleyes:
Those who know know. Those who don't know don't know they don't know;)
AudioQuest Type 4 used, or in the plain wrapper:)
Ben

I just listened to my new audioquest type 4 for a little while and my 1st impression...sweet.:cool:
Definite upgrade from what I had before (Monster Z2).
Buy them. These guys at Club Polk like them for a reason.
Great cable at a not too expensive price.:D

Igo

I'm still riding the fence at coming off the wallet this hard for a set of wire. I'm getting up the corage though I think.

Poee7R

You should look in the flea market right now. There is a listing for some DH Labs T-14, at $1.50 a ft.

I personally run a set of the DH labs Q-10's, which are the same wire but a thicker gauge. And to be honest, really really really honest. To my ears and in my different rigs over the years, through different brands and lengths, I think DH Labs makes the best sounding wire I've ever had. And that includes everything from MIT and Kimber, to Straightwires, AntiCables, AudioQuest, Tara Labs, Monster, Home Depot electrical cord etc.

I would think that you should jump quick at $1.50 a ft before its all bought up, it usually goes for $5.00 a ft everywhere else.


Dave

comfortablycurt

mantis wrote: »

My wire of the year on a budget and I have proved it right in my own system is the Audioquest Flex series in wall rated 14-2. Currently I have my mains(Dynaudio Audience 82's) wired with it and I use them for 2 channel music. I have used it on the job and found it to be a really good sounding or non sounding cable. I like it a lot.
I found it at Crutchfield for sale and that price is awesome. I challenge any bulk cable at or slighty above hell go a lot higher and you'll be hard pressed to beat this wire.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_703142250I/AudioQuest-FLX-14-2-14-Gauge-In-Wall-Speaker-Cable-250-feet.html?tp=1432

I might have to pick some of that up. I love the price tag on it particularly. I've been looking at the Canare 4S11, and this looks like it's pretty similar. Are the two comparable, or would the 4S11 blow this stuff away?

The 4S11 would cost almost twice as much as that stuff does...and I'm trying to save a few bucks wherever I can. I may end up getting a spool of this instead of the Canare. Thanks for the suggestion.

Igo

Poee7R wrote: »

You should look in the flea market right now. There is a listing for some DH Labs T-14, at $1.50 a ft.

I personally run a set of the DH labs Q-10's, which are the same wire but a thicker gauge. And to be honest, really really really honest. To my ears and in my different rigs over the years, through different brands and lengths, I think DH Labs makes the best sounding wire I've ever had. And that includes everything from MIT and Kimber, to Straightwires, AntiCables, AudioQuest, Tara Labs, Monster, Home Depot electrical cord etc.

I would think that you should jump quick at $1.50 a ft before its all bought up, it usually goes for $5.00 a ft everywhere else.


Dave

I don't know this cable but then again I don't know any high-end cables outside of the 12 awg Monster Cable I've run for many years. I'm sure this will be an improvement and I've tossed my hat into the ring at 50 feet. Thanks for the heads up!

Igo

I found my answers:
Front trio, DH-Labs T-14
Surrounds, Belden 12awg Twisted pair
I'll let you know how this goes.

vonnie123

Canare 4s11. www.bluejeanscable.com

bsoko2

vonnie123 wrote: »

Canare 4s11. www.bluejeanscable.com

Agree!

Bill

Igo

I didn't want 4 wire for my surrounds.

ben62670

AQ is better than Canare 4s11 IMHO.

Conradicles

Anybody know where I can buy some audioquest type 4 color white unterminated by the foot?

dorokusai

www.audioadvisor.com

Conradicles

dorokusai wrote: »

www.audioadvisor.com

All I see there is blue. That is O.K. but I wanted white.

Am I missing the white at audioadvisor?

dorokusai

The photo is generic, you may have to call and query. You cand find white in-wall rated cable on Amazon.

daboyz

ben62670 wrote: »

AQ is better than Canare 4s11 IMHO.

I'm with Ben on this one. I've owned both and like the Type 4 better. Sorry RAS

daboyz

Ooop's

285exp

NJPOLKER wrote: »

Igo,
Let me tell ya, I ran regular ole speaker wire for a a long time. I bought a pair of Audioquest Type 4's and a set of Morrow audio cables/wires. As I remember I paid $60. for the Type 4's and $130. for the Morrows. Both are a HUGE improvement over the 16 guage wire. Anyone who tries to dispute wire/cable performance is a fool. Now for the costs!! Keep searching for deals here and Audiogon you'll find them eventually.
I'll save my thoughts as to which one performs better for another thread but one does out perform the other by a wide margin IMO
Drew

Unless you have done a true double blind comparison test of those "premium" cables vs the equivalent sized plain old wire, and were able to scientifically rule out chance, you should probably refrain from calling anybody a fool.

dorokusai

He's from Jersey....fool is a just a friendly slap on the back up there.

NJPOLKER

285exp wrote: »

Unless you have done a true double blind comparison test of those "premium" cables vs the equivalent sized plain old wire, and were able to scientifically rule out chance, you should probably refrain from calling anybody a fool.

FOOL FOOL FOOL
Drew from New Jersey