Wal-Mart Worker Dies in New York ‘Black Friday’ Store Stampede

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  • krabby5
    krabby5 Posts: 923
    edited November 2008
    People are phuckin' crazy..

    Tell you want..I would give them the money they saved buying their $30 dvd players if they promise not to reproduce.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited November 2008
    That's just sick.
  • danger boy
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    edited November 2008
    Wow, it's not just some urban legend... people really do kill other people for shopping deals.

    That is sad.. that someone died being trampled by greedy shoppers the day after Thanksgiving and before Christmas. Some poor kid now may not have a daddy anymore because of it. I hope those shoppers feel guilt for the rest of their lives. :mad:

    If i was the manager at one of them stores. I'd give tazers to everyone of my employees and have them use them on anyone in the crowd that is even slightly pushy or running.

    Trampled to death by greedy shoppers. what a way to go. Man that puts a big damper on what should be a joyus time of the year.
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  • snow
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    edited November 2008
    danger boy wrote: »

    If i was the manager at one of them stores. I'd give tazers to everyone of my employees and have them use them on anyone in the crowd that is even slightly pushy or running.
    Lmaooo. Remind me never to go to your store if you become a manager :p I think your going to need extra employees and tazers everybodys at least slightly pushy and or running :D

    It's a shame that anyone has to die on there job due to greed and madness, personally I think Wallyworld should be held responsible for there part in this. They knew from past experience the types of crowds and behavior these types of sales create.



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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited November 2008
    Stomped to death at a min wage job over Chinese electronics. A stain on New York that I thought I'd never see.
  • m00npie
    m00npie Posts: 697
    edited November 2008
    Pathetic.... how the person died and the people that killed him. You would need more than tasers to control that crowd in Valley Stream.
  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited November 2008
    danger boy wrote: »
    I hope those shoppers feel guilt for the rest of their lives. :mad:


    hold out all the hope that they feel guilty to your hearts content.......but trust me, they'll sleep like babies tonight. seen mob mentality close enough to know that for a fact .
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  • jflail2
    jflail2 Posts: 2,868
    edited November 2008
    And the kicker was, as he lay dying with medical personell working on him, MORONS were still streaming into the store like nothing was going on. How about some respect for the guy and the people working on him, and STAY THE FACK OUT OF THE WAY.

    I hope they all feel great about their stupendous deals, since the cost was the price of the item AND some kid's life.......Sad.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited November 2008
    snow wrote: »
    Lmaooo. Remind me never to go to your store if you become a manager :p I think your going to need extra employees and tazers everybodys at least slightly pushy and or running :D REGARDS SNOW

    forget the slogan, "Always Low prices, always" mine would be "My fingers on my tazer trigger, ALWAYS!!" or "Hope you can run faster than my tazer can" :p
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited November 2008
    Perhaps it's time to install cattle type chutes or some similar design device/s to ensure one person gets through at a time then when 20 people have gotten through wait 60 seconds and let another 20 through repeat until there all in. There has to be a way to do this in a somewhat safe manner. All I know is that if the store managers and the corporations were held criminally and civily responsible for what occured in there stores the odds of this type of thing happening twice would go way down.



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    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited November 2008
    That is so unbelievably pathetic..... Happiness in the form of a commodity. I'll be sure to kill a hampster every time I clip a coupon.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited November 2008
    That's the worst part about the "all about me society".

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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2008
    Nothing surprises me in that neighborhood.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited November 2008
    That is so unbelievably pathetic..... Happiness in the form of a commodity...
    The sad thing is its mostly shallow women doing this crap. Me Me Me. I leave the hamsters to ZB, but I think I will punt a chicken:mad:
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,047
    edited November 2008
    What a sad commenatry on society...........the saddest thing is that they all probably got on their cell phones as they were leaving the store to tell everyone they knew how great of a deal they got; not even mentioning the poor soul that was getting trampled on their way to get it. This kind of stuff makes me ill; a family losing a son, possibly a father, uncle, etc. who is working during the holiday season over some materialistic f&ckwads too ignorant to know what the season is really about.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,986
    edited November 2008
    What a damn shame. Unbelievable, the greed of some people. My thoughts and prayers go out to the Wal-Mart worker, his family and friends. What a very sad reflection of American behavior to relay to the world.
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  • bobman1235
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  • thebluemonkey
    thebluemonkey Posts: 190
    edited November 2008
    I went to office depot and arived there at 5am and was the tenth person in line to get a laptop i wanted
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,185
    edited November 2008
    It's sick. people are horrible. I stayed home today. I didn't even leave the house. I don't need to be apart of that kind of madness. If I saw that I would freak out.

    **** **** people man,

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  • Norm Apter
    Norm Apter Posts: 1,036
    edited November 2008
    Yeah, this has to be one of the saddest stories to be made publicly known in recent times, for two reasons. Obviously, the more immediate one is the senseless and tragic dealth of an individual, and the pain his family and loved ones must be feeling.

    Second, as others have indicated this is a sad reflection on what our consumer culture has bred. It may seem trite to bemoan the ill effects of the commercialization of the holidays -- a time for family and feeling grateful for what we have not what we desire to have -- in the U.S. Movies going back to Miracle on 34th Street (?) and Its a Wonderful Life have been critiquing holiday commercialization for over 60 years.

    While this may be a rare or even isolated incident, it seems to have much deeper ramifications.

    Holiday consumer mayhem, as objectionable as it has been in the past, seems to have gone way off kilter in recent years, where the buying even trumps the holiday itself. I was away (out of the U.S.) from spring 2003 to fall 2006. I had never heard of Black Friday until after I returned to the U.S. in 2006. Is this a long tradition? Maybe it existed prior to 2003 but I swear I had never heard of it.

    Even in just the past 3 years, I've noticed a creeping pattern which is nearly as unsettling in its implications as the fact that someone was actually trampled to death by an unruly crowd that literally broke down the doors that kept them from the goods they desired. The opening times seem to be getting closer and closer to the Thanksgiving holiday itself, some opening at midnight and some even open on Thanksgiving. Whats next? Will we forgo the Turkey meal, the time with friends and family, the quietness of the holiday in order to be the first one to get in the door to get that special deal?

    Listen...I'm all for getting a good deal when I can. But these goods are for the most part luxury items; its not like its starving people busting down the doors for bread or sustenance. One must prioritize.

    We may think we're getting the deal, but in retrospect, I think we (the collective "we") might be the ones who are being taken for a ride. Black Friday sales -- getting us out to the stores by low price baiting -- both takes away from the important things and have created this set of expectations among many consumers. This is the way things SHOULD be, in their minds. And with that kind of power, stores/retailers can just keep moving the (opening) time up, to where the holiday for some will take on no extra significance than an opportunity for super deals.

    I'm not criticizing anyone who goes looking for the deals. All I'm saying is that the question every person has to ask though is: Is it worth it?

    My two cents...

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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited November 2008
    Norm Apter wrote: »
    All I'm saying is that the question every person has to ask though is: Is it worth it? Norm


    not if it means someone losing their life over a bargain.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,986
    edited November 2008
    First off I don't know whether it's true or not but I just heard on the news that the people who killed this man, all they had to do was purchase their item online. There is also already talk that Wal-Mart is going to be sued over this. Wal-Mart gave "the greedy" the option to be a part of the mayhem or to just simply purchase online. If that's the case then it's real simple......

    .......make Black Friday sales internet based only. That way the greedy only murder their own family members trying to get to their computer meanwhile helping the rest of society weed out..........well, you get the idea.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
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    I like that idea.. all black Friday sales are only available online.. if you don't have a computer or internet you're effed.. but that's how it goes. it's really the only safe way to avoid this from happening again.

    I just think that what if it had been my sister or nephew that had been killed in such a senseless way.. i'd be beside myself in anger.. and hell yeah... Wal Mart better get their lawyers working on it ASAP.
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  • fossy
    fossy Posts: 1,378
    edited November 2008
    guessing another lawsuit........no disrespect meant
  • Polk user
    Polk user Posts: 311
    edited November 2008
    If I was the store manager I would have closed the store immediately. I could not care if corporate headquarters gets pissed.
  • NotaSuv
    NotaSuv Posts: 3,848
    edited November 2008
    Macys in NYC was wall to wall crazy women..........but it was a great day to see a movie in NYC...Regal on 42nd was maybe 1/8 full for the new Bond film which we really enjoyed...lots of action in this one compared to the last one....we did 90% of our shopping online............
  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited November 2008
    We need to quit blaming the system. Commercialization of the season, Wal-Mart, greed, black Friday, limit to internet, etc, etc, etc, was not the reason this man was killed. He was killed because a bunch of human beings had NO REGARD for another human life. I called them human beings...but in reality they were no more than a herd of mindless aninmals. Things like this and the sensless mass murders by another group of animals in Mumbai make me sad that I'm even part of the human race sometimes. I'm beginning to think that a bad economy is the least of our problems...the lack of basic human decency may be our biggest hurdle for survival. Too many **** up people on this planet. :mad:
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited November 2008
    treitz3 wrote: »
    First off I don't know whether it's true or not but I just heard on the news that the people who killed this man, all they had to do was purchase their item online. There is also already talk that Wal-Mart is going to be sued over this. Wal-Mart gave "the greedy" the option to be a part of the mayhem or to just simply purchase online. If that's the case then it's real simple......


    First off that is a shame.


    Now let's say Walmart put in an electronic door lock system so employees didn't need to manually unlock doors. Could they be sued if people trampled other shoppers getting to the hot sale item?

    Sure they could. They provided a situation in which this could of happen a idea X at a super low price, a no win situation IMHO.

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  • treitz3
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    edited November 2008
    I hear you man but apparently they provided the alternative of purchasing the same items online for the same price. The greedy were responsible for a death today, not Wally World IMO.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited November 2008
    It's possible that those shoppers are not able to get on-line?

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