Guess im not getting it

snow
snow Posts: 4,337
edited November 2008 in The Clubhouse
I was bidding on a box for a receiver I have because this one is in a lil nicer shape than mine is and if I ever sell it I wanted to offer a nice original box to go with it. Heres a link to the auction and a pic of the receiver I have in its original box there is lots of writing etc on the outside of mine even though you cant see it from the pic.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280286675218&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=018



REGARDS SNOW
Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,986
    edited November 2008
    What's wrong with that? :eek:

    Look at it his way, at least you'll save on shipping. It's only $22.00
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited November 2008
    Wow. Just wow.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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  • KrazyMofo24
    KrazyMofo24 Posts: 1,206
    edited November 2008
    That's crazy that they don't know they are just getting a box!
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  • DollarDave
    DollarDave Posts: 2,575
    edited November 2008
    Latest bid was $360? WTH?
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited November 2008
    Yeah it's more than im willing to pay. I bid up to $151.00 and I was done when I got home and seen it at $360.00 I know the boxes are rare and hard to come by. But after a point what you gain by offering a receiver with a nice box goes away when the box costs too much.



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited November 2008
    Um ya I don't get it either
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited November 2008
    The seller has to be uber excited at that price. WOW.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited November 2008
    $360 for a box WOW just WOW is right. :eek:

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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited November 2008
    I think I will go into the box making business. Amazing!
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited November 2008
    Can anyone else here see a market in counterfeit boxes. Holy f@#%ing ****.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited November 2008
    Actually, the ad title is somewhat misleading:

    PIONEER SX-1980 ORIGINAL BOX & PACKING~HARD TO FIND~70s

    I'm guessing the winner thinks he is getting a vintage receiver in an original box. I was always surprised by the number of people who absolutely did not want to read an ad. It was always irksome to get 1 million questions about one of my eBay listings when I had provided very, very detailed information in the listing. It was always "oh, I just saw the title and the pictures and really didn't read the ad".

    For those who knew they were bidding on a box, I guess they don't know they can have a custom box made by a packing and shipping company that is much better quality than the ratty original box in the listing.

    I needed a shipping box when I sold one of my SVS CS Ultra subwoofers (41" tall x 17" diameter). A double-wall corrugated box with form-fitting foam padding cost $24.53.
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  • swegyptian
    swegyptian Posts: 316
    edited November 2008
    It's like the XBOX BOX ebay listings. OOPS!

    That also reminds me of someone selling an early 90's Lexus ES300 on ebay a few years ago. It was like they would say leather interior, no reserve, power windows, no reserve, extra, clean, no reserve, almost like new, no reverse! But they weren't kind enough to make it very clear that the cars transmission had NO REVERSE. Ah, camouflage.
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited November 2008
    DarqueKnight wrote: »
    Actually, the ad title is somewhat misleading:

    PIONEER SX-1980 ORIGINAL BOX & PACKING~HARD TO FIND~70s

    I think its more than the title that's misleading, the listing is classified with the following:
    Item Specifics - Home Audio Receivers
    Type: Stereo Receivers (2-Channel)
    Product Type : Audio
    Type : RECEIVER
    Number of Channels: 2 (Stereo)

    I don't know many boxes that are considered Audio or have 2 channels. I think this will end up as a negative for the seller simply because the ad was somewhat deceptive or misleading. HOWEVER, you would have to be blind or ignorant to not really catch on or read into the details beyond the category it was classified under. The Description does say the auction is only for a box and only a box is pictured, but it is mis-categorized.

    Its amazing what some people will sell, and even more amazing what people will buy. 31 bids on that box. :confused::confused::eek: Based on the bidders, none of them were eBay newbs-so they must know something special about that box. The last bidder even made his last manual bid less than a minute before the end of the auction but had placed a bid 5 days prior-so it was not a last minute impulse bid either. :confused:
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited November 2008
    DarqueKnight wrote: »
    Actually, the ad title is somewhat misleading:

    PIONEER SX-1980 ORIGINAL BOX & PACKING~HARD TO FIND~70s

    I'm guessing the winner thinks he is getting a vintage receiver in an original box. I was always surprised by the number of people who absolutely did not want to read an ad. It was always irksome to get 1 million questions about one of my eBay listings when I had provided very, very detailed information in the listing. It was always "oh, I just saw the title and the pictures and really didn't read the ad".

    For those who knew they were bidding on a box, I guess they don't know they can have a custom box made by a packing and shipping company that is much better quality than the ratty original box in the listing.

    I needed a shipping box when I sold one of my SVS CS Ultra subwoofers (41" tall x 17" diameter). A double-wall corrugated box with form-fitting foam padding cost $24.53.
    Agreed on the title being somewhat misleading but even if you only looked at the pics you would see there are only pics of a box and packing material no receiver.

    No doubt that you could buy a better built box but as far as a collector is concerned it isnt the same as having an "original" and they are willing to pay a premium for it. My thought when bidding was simply knowing that when an auction has the original box and packing they always go for more than a receiver in the same condition without one and seem to attract a wider range of bidders and would most likely be very easy to recoup a couple hundred bucks.



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2008
    Damm Raife, I was just asking a few questions on that e-bay auction you had...........

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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2008
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    $360 for a box WOW just WOW is right. :eek:


    the box is a bargain, lets see I paid 100 bucks a person to go into a place in your neighborhood so I could spend more dough which ended up costing me 1 large, I got to walk around all day until my feet hurt, my back hurt and my head hurt, I got to stand in endless lines experiencing wife's and husband's arguing, rude foreign tourists arguing, and thousands of little ones each believing they were special and deserved what ever other one had.

    So I could of saved 640 if I had bought the box, put a fairy fricken princess sticker on it, wrapped it in pretty pink paper with a bow gave it to my little darlling telling her it was her personal magic kingdom box.

    Come to think of it, Given the Box Buyer knows its a Box they may have a special Box party already planned for the Box. What would be really cool is if they had some other Boxes already to join in the party or even the ultimate Twin Box to the new Box.

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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,481
    edited November 2008
    experiencing wife's and husband's arguing, rude foreign tourists arguing

    Hell, flash that badge or your piece and you'd get some shutup...right?;):D


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  • ntculenuff
    ntculenuff Posts: 1,146
    edited November 2008
    WOW...with the pics that were posted you could probably have one made to order for way less...sheesh what some people will pay for things. I'm sure I'm guilty on some things myself but a box :)
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited November 2008
    Wow; I am sure all this originated at Paypal HQ's; can you believe what they come up with just to increase their 3% cut???
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,986
    edited November 2008
    I want to be the box. That way I could pimp myself out.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2008
    treitz3 wrote: »
    I want to be the box. That way I could pimp myself out.

    you never needed a box before for that..............

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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited November 2008
    once the buyer realizes he ain't getting a receiver.. the box will be relisted on Epay i betcha.
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