Is SACD here to stay?

Motzart
Motzart Posts: 1,075
edited December 2008 in Electronics
Don't know much about it. :o

Before I start replacing some of my Cd's my damn kid took...is SACD just a passing fad?
Maybe it already passed?


One of the Cd's that I need to replace that "Mysteriously disappeared" Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon!! :mad:

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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited November 2008
    DSOTM is a good place to start. ;)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • Motzart
    Motzart Posts: 1,075
    edited November 2008
    george daniel wrote: »
    DSOTM is a good place to start. ;)

    What's that in english?
    I don't speak technoies very well. :)

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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited November 2008
    Dark Side Of The Moon ;) on Sacd it was my first SACD/multichannel/hybrid
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • Motzart
    Motzart Posts: 1,075
    edited November 2008
    george daniel wrote: »
    Dark Side Of The Moon ;) on Sacd it was my first SACD/multichannel/hybrid

    Holy brain ****!! peepwall.gif




    UMMMM back to post #1 :o

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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,236
    edited November 2008
    DUDE don't put to much stock in SACD. It's not exaclty a format thats mainstream or easy to find. Many guys in here still buy them and know some cool websites, I'm sure they will chime in. I kinda left it on the waste side. I care about it but I don't k=have time to put energy into it.

    Good luck and I hope SACD comes back from the grave, or the waste side.

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  • Motzart
    Motzart Posts: 1,075
    edited November 2008
    mantis wrote: »
    DUDE don't put to much stock in SACD. It's not exaclty a format thats mainstream or easy to find. Many guys in here still buy them and know some cool websites, I'm sure they will chime in. I kinda left it on the waste side. I care about it but I don't k=have time to put energy into it.

    Good luck and I hope SACD comes back from the grave, or the waste side.

    Dan


    Sounds like I'm better off getting the remastered copy eh?

    I'd get the Gold MFSL edition but it's BIG BUX!!
    From what I understand the MFSL stuff is more collectable than anything.
    Sound quality doesn't warrant the big dinero....least that's what I hear.

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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited November 2008
    here one link,,
    http://www.musicdirect.com/search/advanced.php
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,236
    edited November 2008
    Motzart wrote: »
    Sounds like I'm better off getting the remastered copy eh?

    I'd get the Gold MFSL edition but it's BIG BUX!!
    From what I understand the MFSL stuff is more collectable than anything.
    Sound quality doesn't warrant the big dinero....least that's what I hear.

    Don't get me wrong, if you have SACD and can find a copy in by all means man, SACD is superior to cd in my opinion any day of the week. I was a early adapter to SACD and DVD AUDIO and wanted nothing more then there survival .
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,563
    edited November 2008
    With more and more SACD releases coming out every month, it seems unlikely that it will fade. Not to mention, some of the high end manufactures are coming out with SACD models when they have not in the past.

    Sonically, SACD kicks some serious ****.
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  • Motzart
    Motzart Posts: 1,075
    edited November 2008
    No I don't have a SACD player yet....just wondering if it's worth it?
    Esp the extra dinero it'll cost over time.

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,563
    edited November 2008
    Ask yourself this. Is the sound quality worth the extra dough to you?

    I know it is for me, but only you can answer that for yourself.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,236
    edited November 2008
    Motzart wrote: »
    No I don't have a SACD player yet....just wondering if it's worth it?
    Esp the extra dinero it'll cost over time.

    Hell effin yeah. lets say you don't get many sacd's and spin cd's, guess what?? Most sacd players play cd's better then same level cd players.

    Go for it man, there are many titles out there and you will find something you like or a lot. I hold on to my 2 Sacd player and always look and see if there is one for me. I got on early and very fustrated when they would not release everything new in Sacd, I love so many different kinds of music and sacd doesn't offer everything. It sucks for me actually but don't cut yourself short man, go for it.

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,144
    edited November 2008
    It's been around for over 6 years with over 5500 releases.

    http://www.sa-cd.net/
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  • Motzart
    Motzart Posts: 1,075
    edited November 2008
    Since SACD works on a regular CD player....maybe I'll pick some up here and there.
    Then next year after the holiday bills have cleared up I'll get a player.

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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited November 2008
    Motzart wrote: »
    Since SACD works on a regular CD player....maybe I'll pick some up here and there.
    Then next year after the holiday bills have cleared up I'll get a player.

    Only the Hybrid SACD discs will work in a regular (Redbook) CD player. Some will only work in an SACD player.
    Some are stereo and some are surround and some are both.
    But all SACD playesr will also play regular (Redbook) CD's
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  • Motzart
    Motzart Posts: 1,075
    edited November 2008
    Keiko wrote: »
    Check this out Motzart...

    http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/486974189/pioneer-dv-48av?s_c=site_search

    For that price you could afford to get your feet wet and snag it in time for the Holidays. Couple other Polkies grabbed this and claim it's a solid player. IMO, that's an unbeatable price for everything that player does. Hybrid SACD's require a player capable of playing the Super Audio layer. A standard CD player will only playback the redbook layer of the hybrid.

    Gosh that is tempting!
    I gotta sell something first to pay for the sub I just bough or the Wife will kill me!!!!

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  • Motzart
    Motzart Posts: 1,075
    edited November 2008
    Keiko wrote: »
    There's always manwhorin' if ya need $$$ for gear :D

    Be lucky if I got a dollar a trick! LMAO

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  • xandra
    xandra Posts: 291
    edited November 2008
    Motzart--

    If audio quality matters, go for it. Just be sure buy Hybrid SACD's: that way you can always play the disc on any player, copy music to your computer, etc. - MOST SACD's now are. The nice surprise is that the quality of Redbook layer (the standard stereo CD part of a Hybrid disk) often tends to be of pretty darn good quality.
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  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,414
    edited November 2008
    I have had several copies of DSOTM. The original vinyl, regular CD, 20th anniversary digital remix and recently a SACD copy. The digital remix does sound better than the original CD but the SACD (stereo) is superior. The first thing you notice is that you hear all those background voices that you normally strain to hear.

    I got this copy to try out my new universal disc player (Denon DVD 2910) that I picked up off ebay. I am only using it for 2 channel audio and am very pleased with the sound quality, especially for $160.

    I don't know if it is worth replacing my CD collection with SACD or DVD-A but as I add to my music collection I'll strongly consider the higher definition format.
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  • jhw59
    jhw59 Posts: 348
    edited November 2008
    I don't have a SACD player yet but have been picking up some SACDs at BMG for cheap. My oppo does play DVD audio and the Rough Mix dvd audio sounds wonderful through my HT rig. I just got the Tommy SACD remixed and remastered by PT on ebay for $12. at that price why not? The new oppo blu ray will play SACD and I hope they keep the DVD audio format as well.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited November 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    It's been around for over 6 years with over 5500 releases.

    http://www.sa-cd.net/

    It's SACD's 10th anniversary in 2009!!
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,796
    edited November 2008
    jhw59 wrote: »
    I don't have a SACD player yet but have been picking up some SACDs at BMG for cheap. My oppo does play DVD audio and the Rough Mix dvd audio sounds wonderful through my HT rig. I just got the Tommy SACD remixed and remastered by PT on ebay for $12. at that price why not? The new oppo blu ray will play SACD and I hope they keep the DVD audio format as well.

    Which model Oppo? As far as I know, they all play SACD.
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  • Motzart
    Motzart Posts: 1,075
    edited November 2008
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    It's SACD's 10th anniversary in 2009!!


    Figures......I've been out of the electronics/cd scene for awhile now! :rolleyes:

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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited November 2008
    Motzart,

    I think you should definitely get into SACD. The Pioneer Elite player seems like a great buy (I am very tempted myself but awaiting gov't bailout), along with the Oppo 980. Have to tell you that many SACD titles, like those from the Rolling Stones and Bob Dylan, have already gone out of print, but you can still pick them up on ebay. However, one listen to a well-produced SACD, like Steely Dan's "Gaucho", you will be hooked.

    Btw, don't look to replace your entire CD collection with SACD. When you buy a CD, just check whether a SACD version is available. SACD is, and will remain, an audiophile-oriented format....that just happens to play on almost all regular CD player.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,144
    edited November 2008
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    It's SACD's 10th anniversary in 2009!!

    I gladly stand corrected.
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited November 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    It's been around for over 6 years with over 5500 releases.
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    It's SACD's 10th anniversary in 2009!!
    F1nut wrote: »
    I gladly stand corrected.

    Well you did say over 6 years ;)
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  • Igo
    Igo Posts: 411
    edited November 2008
    6 years? Since Sony created SACD (I think) then it is quite possible that I have the very first SACD player ever marketed. Can anybody tell me how close to first my still working Sony SCD-CE595 is?
    ...Link to my System Showcase...
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  • Igo
    Igo Posts: 411
    edited November 2008
    I just bought a scratch and dent Sony ES line SACD player for $250. I can't find a scatch or dent and it's the finest cd player I've ever heard. Bought at Crutchfield scratch and dent.
    ...Link to my System Showcase...
    "ES - Kind'a simple but I like it"

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    Sony 400 Disc CD CDP-CX455
    Infinity BU-2 Sub-Woofer
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    Polk Audio CS400i Center
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    DH-Labs T-14 Speaker Cables
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,796
    edited November 2008
    Lasareath wrote: »
    I have two players that play SACD's, one is an OPPO and the other is a Denon. The Denon far surpases the OPPO in playback.

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtlplay&1231040328&/Denon-DVD-3910-Silver-Serpent-

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtlplay&1229572681&/Denon-3910-sacd-/-universal---

    Don't know what that had to do with my post, I was just curious which Oppo he had that wouldn't play SACD's. No comment on quality.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited November 2008
    Igo wrote: »
    6 years? Since Sony created SACD (I think) then it is quite possible that I have the very first SACD player ever marketed. Can anybody tell me how close to first my still working Sony SCD-CE595 is?

    The SCD-CE595, which I also have, is nowhere near being the first SACD player marketed. In fact, the SCD-CE595 is still in production and is listed on Sony's current lineup in the US.

    My current primary SACD player, the $180.00 Sony DVP-NS500V SACD/DVD/CD player, actually predates the SCD-CE595.
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