Anyone heard of this challenge?

michaeljhsda2
michaeljhsda2 Posts: 2,182
edited November 2008 in The Clubhouse
SDA SRS 2.3TL's
Silk Audio MS-90-BT integrated tube amp
Yaqin MS-20L integrated tube amp
SDA 2B TL's
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited November 2008
    Very interesting...
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2008
    Contact info is down, oh well.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited November 2008
    I've skimmed it before. What speakers again?
    Make it Funky! :)
  • skipf
    skipf Posts: 694
    edited November 2008
    Ummmmm, BS. I had the opportunity to hook up Bob Carver's new tube monoblocks to my rig in place of my Silver 9t's. Trust me, you can hear a difference. If you don't believe me, ask Treitz3, TNRabbit, F1nut or Engtaz. They all heard the difference too. We can't all be wrong or not hearing properly.
  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited November 2008
    The publisher of The Audio Critic has been saying the same thing for 20 years also.

    He also says the same ABX test will apply to most CD players.
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,185
    edited November 2008
    You know blind tests are fun. I have conducted so many of these over the years and some people can and some can't.

    Most of the time when comparing quality gear to others, it's difficult to hear the differences. Most of the time it's very close. Sometimes it's not.

    When testing out speakers, this is the easiest to hear a difference. Most speakers don't sound like anything else except others in there lines. Receivers do sound different. Just about anyone can hear that. Wire and power amps it gets harder. years ago when the Rotel RMB1095 came out, I was working at Soundex. We compared it to the Krell Theater Standard amp. Both amps performed extremely well running a full 5 channel Martin Logan speaker system , then a full 5 channel Wilson system using a Krell theater Standard Preamp. All wires where Transparent. It wasn't until we ran the volume up to reference did we hear a huge difference in clarity and dynamic range. The Krell amp started to open up and have unbelievable Dynamics over the Rotel powerhouse. But at low volumes, it's was hard to hear the difference. The Krell sonic signature did show up until we cranked it.

    Wire is also hard to tell, the sonic differences is sometimes exactly the same. I have tested so much wire that I should be seeing someone about my problem. But I remember sitting there listening to 4 different analog stereo pairs and I was shocked how different they sounded. They all played the music but some made certain sounds stand out more then others. I remember my loved Monstercable M950i's missing mid range when compared to the Transparent music links. I was shocked in the difference.

    People can argue back and forth which is right wrong or indifferent, I say of you don't listen for yourself and make up your own mind, you will never truly know. No one can really tell you there is a difference or not if you can or can't hear it. It's all that matters anyway. When you are sitting in your listening chair, it's you and the system. Not any of us.

    Dan
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited November 2008
    That challenge has been around for years. If the contact info is down, google Richard Clark, hes not hard to find.
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2008
    Very well said Dan, some of those experiences are similar to mine.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche