Well the GA hospital here is nice...

ben62670

danger boy wrote: »

Debriding

Thanks Al. I will be a doctor in no time. I can't spell, and my hand writing is awful so I figure I am halfway there;)
Ben

SKsolutions

Cooked a section of my foot, while flaming off a wine sauce, and used silver sulfadiazine, aka Silvadene.
It went from a crispy black to pink in a few days. Amazing stuff. By black, I mean. . . like really black, burnt toast black.
It also prevents infection, but as mentioned may delay healing. It's pricey, but I'm sure someone in your area, or here, may have some handy. Good luck man.

ben62670

SKsolutions wrote: »

... It's pricey, but I'm sure someone in your area, or here, may have some handy. Good luck man.

A Polkie here in the "field" has hooked me up with all the dressings I need. I would like to give him credit, but I don't know if he would want me to do that. He is not a doctor... You know when I try to explain what the Polk family is like to "normal people" they just don't understand what we have going here. We have people that pray, truly care, and watch out for each other. I have met a lot of great people here.
There isn't one Polkie that I would not invite into my home with smiles on. Even the ones I argue with. We lost our drunk uncle, but I think that was for the best. You guys mean a lot to me. Another Polkie offered to take time off work to get me to appointments seeing I can't drive on my meds. The moral support via PM's, and phone calls... I could go on. I am still bummed I messed PF08. I really wanted to meet you all, and really wanted to thank Ken, MP, and Stu in person.
Ben

ben62670

Mechanical Debridement
Methods include whirlpool baths, use of syringe and catheter, or wet to dry dressings to remove dead or infected tissue. The wet to dry procedure involves applying a wet dressing to the wound. As this dressing dries, it absorbs wound material. When the dressing is remoistened and removed, some of the tissue comes with it.
Mechanical debridement and chemical debridement often produce pain. Pain medication can be given before changing the dressing to help relieve the discomfort.

I am having a hard time finding a definitive DIY saline solution:(

ben62670

Hey guys I was sent a PM about my play by play thread here. I just want to be clear of my reason for this....
Here is most of my reply

The reason for play by play is I never had a burn like this, and I have no insurance. I have gotten some good advice via PM, and phone calls. There are more than a few that have helped via phone, email, and PM. I am not looking for handouts here if that is what you are thinking. Maybe its the meds, or the pain, but I am scared about this getting infected, or permanently affected. I have had way too many injuries, and this is my master hand I am concerned about so I will continue with asking advice on this till it actually starts healing.

I hope I don't sound too pathetic here, but without insurance this does actually does scare me. The pain is nothing compared to worrying about how this is going to turn out. IDK if the doctors I have spoken to are exaggerating about taking care of this, but again at the risk of sounding pathetic I would rather take a hit to my ego than not get the help I have received so far.
If I should shut up, and sound paranoid please let me know
Thanks
Ben

SolidSqual

ben62670 wrote: »

Hey guys I was sent a PM about my play by play thread here. I just want to be clear of my reason for this....
Here is most of my reply

I hope I don't sound too pathetic here, but without insurance this does actually does scare me. The pain is nothing compared to worrying about how this is going to turn out. IDK if the doctors I have spoken to are exaggerating about taking care of this, but again at the risk of sounding pathetic I would rather take a hit to my ego than not get the help I have received so far.
If I should shut up, and sound paranoid please let me know
Thanks
Ben

Man, I saw this thread and see it as nothing more than a guy showing off his war wounds and making a little fun out of a freakin ridiculous and horrible situation. If you've been accused by someone for some of the things you've named above . . . I don't what to say.

A person like that is a basic a doosh bag and not worth a follow-up comment like this.

ben62670

SolidSqual wrote: »

...A person like that is a basic a doosh bag and not worth a follow-up comment like this.

Actually that person that sent me that is a friend(I thought). Kinda threw me for a loop. I have been through a boat load of crap in the last three years. It seems like one thing after another. I know this world test you, but that just threw me off. I have been sitting here for about 20 minutes trying to type what I felt, but screw it.

mrbigbluelight

Nothing wrong with your thread; in fact, your posting of the things you're having to go through might just prevent someone else from being in the same position.

It's not like you're advising people to put capacitors in series with their tweeters.
:rolleyes:


I'm hoping for a speedy recovery so that we can get back to more chicken pictures.

ben62670

mrbigbluelight wrote: »

Nothing wrong with your thread; in fact, your posting of the things you're having to go through might just prevent someone else from being in the same position.

Thanks bro. It's not critical, but sure does suck.
Ben

TroyD

ben62670 wrote: »

Hey guys I was sent a PM about my play by play thread here. I just want to be clear of my reason for this....
Here is most of my reply

I hope I don't sound too pathetic here, but without insurance this does actually does scare me. The pain is nothing compared to worrying about how this is going to turn out. IDK if the doctors I have spoken to are exaggerating about taking care of this, but again at the risk of sounding pathetic I would rather take a hit to my ego than not get the help I have received so far.
If I should shut up, and sound paranoid please let me know
Thanks
Ben

Me personally, while I don't mind the thread (and no, it wasn't me that sent the PM)....I think that there is such a thing as TMI. I, personally, could do without the graphic photos, but that's just me.

As for the medical advice, man, I'd stick with the doctors and nurses.

Like I said, I hope you feel better, Ben. We are all pulling for you....but, in terms of medical advice, I think that listening to the professionals is probably the wisest course of action, you know?

As for the rest of it, perhaps the individual that sent you the PM DOES care about you. I know that in my line of work I see a lot of people that work for me, good people, who always seem to be in a world of ****. Well, generally it's because they are reaping the effects of a string of bad decisions. In which case, I sit them down and I lay out for them the cause and effect relationship of poor decision making.

It's not that the person doesn't care at all. Same with me, I care about you but I would honestly say that most of your tribulations, you had (at some point) control over. Remember when you FIRST came on the forum, the whole debacle about the TV that CC sold out from under you? The whole point was that if you didn't have the fundage to close escrow, and you were having money issues, perhaps a new plasma TV wasn't what you needed. Same thing here, I feel badly about your burn, however, if that were one of my Airmen? I would have eaten his **** out royally for doing such a stupid thing. Not only did he hurt himself, which is bad enough, but he would be **** over the rest of the team because while he would be laid up, everyone else would be picking up the slack. In some cases, the best thing you can do for someone is boot them in the ****, which is what I think is happening here.

I really hope that you take this in a constructive manner, really, I do. If I didn't care, I wouldn't bring it up at all.

BDT

Fireman32

Dont worry about the thread man it's fine. We are all pulling for you to get better.

TroyD

The most important thing is that you heal and press on, broham....

BDT

NotaSuv

Is there any type of public aid availible there? Especially for such a serious burn....nice to have a friend in the ER who understands your situation.....still amazin we can even take care of our own yet take care of our own folks....yet take care of those who work illegally and pay no taxes......prayers sent for a quick painless heal...............

mmadden28

Fireman32 wrote: »

Dont worry about the thread man it's fine. We are all pulling for you to get better.

^^^^

Ditto

mmadden28

SKsolutions wrote: »

....silver sulfadiazine, aka Silvadene....

oohooho oohh ooh I know....
'Ben's Silvadene Cables'....

NotaSuv

mmadden28 wrote: »

oohooho oohh ooh I know....
'Ben's Silvadene Cables'....

nice ring to it

mmadden28

ben62670 wrote: »

I am having a hard time finding a definitive DIY saline solution:(

Not sure if its the same makeup as what they'd use in EMS/healthcare-but what about the stuff sold at the pharmacy-Contact solution (without all the fancy additives). Ask the local pharmacist.

I guess you need more than that though huh?
How about this? http://www.instructables.com/id/SUXIVRLF8RP7Z0S/
or
http://www.neti-pot.com/sinucleanse-neti-pots.cfm

ben62670

Thanks Troy. Point taken on the pics. A link would be more appropriate seeing this is a public audio forum. They won't see me at PT due to no insurance so I was kinda hoping to get a little guidance on the Debriding. I am going to have to do this myself. As for the PM there was nothing said mean spirited. I was just a little sensitive at that time going through another pain wave. It was just bad timing, and I apologize. There was no need to mention that I even received a PM. I could have should have just explained my medical updates here. I wish we could edit.
Ben

Edit: I need to learn to sit down, shut up, and go listen to some tunes when I am irritated, and not post:o

Beekyman

I hope your feeling better but I also hope that you have reconsidered getting professional medical attention for that burn. I really don't think that it is wise to DIY this issue.
Here is a small excerpt from www.burninstitute.org

Burns covering more body surface area than an arm of the victim, or if burns are on the face, hands, neck, perineum or feet are considered MAJOR and should be cared for in a special Burn Unit or Center.

I'm no doctor but I do think that your injuries qualify for professional medical attention. Large burn areas leave you wide open for scarring and infection. I hope you reconsider and get the medical attention you need and deserve, costs be damned. I'm sure that a payment schedule can be arranged in some way, gear can be sold, etc.....

If you don't have your health, you don't have anything. Take care and get well soon!

ben62670

Beekyman wrote: »

I hope your feeling better but I also hope that you have reconsidered getting professional medical attention for that burn. I really don't think that it is wise to DIY this issue.
Here is a small excerpt from www.burninstitute.org

Burns covering more body surface area than an arm of the victim, or if burns are on the face, hands, neck, perineum or feet are considered MAJOR and should be cared for in a special Burn Unit or Center.

I'm no doctor but I do think that your injuries qualify for professional medical attention. Large burn areas leave you wide open for scarring and infection. I hope you reconsider and get the medical attention you need and deserve, costs be damned. I'm sure that a payment schedule can be arranged in some way, gear can be sold, etc.....

If you don't have your health, you don't have anything. Take care and get well soon!

I did try to work out a payment option, but they want $80 everytime I go there. I can still go back to the hospital for a few more cleanings. At least that way a Doctor can keep an eye on it.
Thanks
Ben

Beekyman

Payment can't be deferred? Damn! I've had treatment for various ailments and gotten billed after the fact. Wish I could be of further help but there has got to be some sort of program for folks in your predicament.
Just take care of yourself. I would hate to see this become worse (and more expensive).
Best wishes and get well soon.

danger boy

Unless anyone has suffered serious burns like Ben's and others (mine), no one has any ground to stand on to even know what he's going through.

Your body is going through so much trying to heal itself right now.. and i kid you not.. burns are a lifelong situation. Yes the pain goes away, but the scars never do.

Ben made a dumb mistake, but so have we all. It's easy to sit back and judge someone after the fact. Everyone's situation is different of course. Beating him up isn't going to accomplish anything. He needs medical care, not a lecture.

He is going to need support the whole way through this tough journey. I don't care for the pictures either.. because it reminds me of my own burns. In my case it was not because I was being a dumbass either.

Ben check out this link for a group called the Phoenix Society for burns. Please get a hold of them.

http://www.phoenix-society.org/

You should not have to try and take care of your own medical attention. Burns are tough to treat, infection is the biggest factor right now.. but soon other things come into play.

ben62670

Thanks Al. I sent them an email. Again the pics were in poor taste, and should have had a link with a warning, but we can't edit here. Burns like this, or worse are like a back injury. Until you experience it you just don't understand. I don't feel like anyone was beating me up. It's just a lack of understanding. I don't mean that last comment in a negative way at all. My Dad had a bad back injury, and sometimes he would lay on the floor immobilized, and I did not understand why my tough guy dad was laying there like a girl scout. Not till after I broke my back, and neck did I have any sympathy, or understanding what he was going through:o I don't take this experience is such a bad thing. I am thankful that it was bad enough to wake me up, but not be a severe permanently disability. I know, and many that know me on a personal level know I have a calling, and I know it too. I have devoted way to much of my time to my selfish audio pursuits. If I devoted half the time I spend on audio to helping people that really need help I could make a difference in peoples lives. The blessings you get from putting other people first far outweigh the gratification of doing for yourself. I need to get my priorities right.
Again thanks Al
Ben

pjtime

I barely ever post but I notice Ben is always one of the first people to post with helpful advice and always putting himself out there when others are in need. Wish I could help you out ben if you think of anything pm.

ben62670

Well I did it. It came out pretty good too. I wet gauze pads with some homemade saline solution, and let them sit on the wound to soften things up a bit. After that I just scrubbed the old skin with a gauze pad. It wasn't fun, but it wasn't that bad. If I don't get infected I will be golden:)
Thanks guys
Ben

Warning the links below contain graphic pictures that should not be viewed by humans.
before
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh83/ben62670/DSCN1271.jpg?t=1225303348
after
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh83/ben62670/DSCN1279.jpg?t=1225303829
The only thing that looks nasty/weird is where the back of my hand meets my fingers

ben62670

pjtime wrote: »

I barely ever post but I notice Ben is always one of the first people to post with helpful advice and always putting himself out there when others are in need. Wish I could help you out ben if you think of anything pm.

Thanks for the kind words. I am actually feeling pretty good now that I have removed the dead skin. You know it's real weird, but my hand, and arm actually feel much better now
Thanks again.
Ben

bikezappa

I agree Ben, like many others, has always been very early to help people with technical advise.

SolidSqual

ben62670 wrote: »

Thanks for the kind words. I am actually feeling pretty good now that I have removed the dead skin. You know it's real weird, but my hand, and arm actually feel much better now
Thanks again.
Ben

Adrenaline from shock?

ben62670

SolidSqual wrote: »

Adrenaline from shock?

Nope. A couple times I felt a little light headed. I think maybe the tight dead skin was putting extra stress where it was creasing when ever I tried to twist, or flex. I feel like braiding again:) I'll have to do a little at a time, but at least I can get back on it:) I owe 2 Polkies some cables, and they have been very patient, and kind through this setback.

Joe08867

I looks alot better Ben. Prayers that infection stays away.

I had first and second degree burns on my arm when I was real young. I still remember how much it hurt when they scrubbed the dead skin off. It does feel better after all the dead is off. I think the tension from the dead skin causes extra stress on the damaged areas.

Hope it works out.