SDA SRS 2.3TL...oh boy...

Ethancf
Ethancf Posts: 458
edited October 2008 in Vintage Speakers
See my sig for what I currently have...pretty much a match all around.

I trolled around the web tonight and someone has some 2.3TL's for 6 bills. I haven't seen them yet, but if the condition is there, would this be a good buy? What would I need to look for? Isn't there a cable that the SRS series needed that is rare and hard to come by? Can x-overs/drivers still be had? Would the 2.3's be a good match as mains to my current setup? I know NOTHING about these. Your wisdom would be appreciated.
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Polk Audio LSiC Center
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited September 2008
    If they are in decent shape,,get em.. ;)
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited September 2008
    Good price, even cheap. They will not match anything you have.
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited September 2008
    time to set up some two channel action. just like i'm doing finally.

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    MAINS: RTI8'S
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    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited September 2008
    $600 sounds like a good deal.
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited September 2008
    no special cable is need for SRS's. they use the same SDA cable that other SDA's use. you can make one for not much $ or if they use the blade/blade connections. polk still sells them. if it's pin/blade which they prob are.. just make your own.

    Cool.. hope you get them. :)
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  • Ethancf
    Ethancf Posts: 458
    edited September 2008
    Can replacement drivers still be obtained through Polk?

    F1...would they sound terrible in my 5.1 setup then? The front stage is my main concern. Around the web, looks like a few guys had the CS-350LS in their systems with the 2.3TL's.
    THE SYSTEM
    Polk Audio LSi25 Mains
    Polk LSiF/X Surrounds
    Polk Audio LSiC Center
    Definitive Technology PowerField 1800 Subwoofer
    Parasound Classic 7100 Pre/Pro
    Parasound 2205A Amplifier
    Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD Blu-ray Player
    Monster HTS 2600
    Microsoft XBox 360
    Samsung PN64D550 64" Plasma
  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited September 2008
    You would be better served using them in a 2 channel setup seperate from the Home Theatre.

    You are right others have done this with the cs350 but then you need different surround speakers as well.

    That 6bills can get alot higher fast.

    IMHO SDA's should be enjoyed for music not movies.
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited September 2008
    Joe08867 wrote: »
    You would be better served using them in a 2 channel setup seperate from the Home Theatre.

    You are right others have done this with the cs350 but then you need different surround speakers as well.

    That 6bills can get alot higher fast.

    IMHO SDA's should be enjoyed for music not movies.

    + 1,,good point
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • Herfnwolf
    Herfnwolf Posts: 52
    edited September 2008
    Ethan,
    I was going through the same thought process recently when I bought my 3.1TLs. But after listening to them and ejoying the massive sound stage they present, I believe they would be a little dysfunctional and incompatible with the 7.1 processing. So, I am going to keep my LS90s,CS350,LS/FX as my 7.1 system and use the 3.1TLs as my designated two channel system.

    On the other hand, I could simply disconnect the SDA cable when using them as a 7.1 system but the timbre matching would not compare to the LS90s/CS350 setup.


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    original Monitor 10Bs
    Original Rosewood LS90s,
    SDA 3.1TL,
    LS/FX
    CS350
    NHT 2 x SW3P/SA-3
    B&K Ref 30,ST125.2,AV5000
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited September 2008
    SDAs are awesome in a combo rig. People come away with their mouth open after hearing mine. Others are using the CS350 with good results. I find the CS400i very close. No discernable dropoff for HT use, maybe slightly chesty for multi-channel music. For surrounds, I've tried Mon 5jrs(modded to timbre match), RTA 8Ts (same driver/tweeters), SDA-CRS+(timber match) and now SDA 2Bs(timbre match). $600 is a very good price unless they are in poor shape.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • Ethancf
    Ethancf Posts: 458
    edited September 2008
    So the word is that they are about a 6.5 out of 10, nicks and dings on the cabinet, grilles are not perfect, and there is no interconnect cable. Also the back of the speaker says per the back of the speaker: L SDA SRS 2. What's your opinion now? Drivers are apparently ok.
    THE SYSTEM
    Polk Audio LSi25 Mains
    Polk LSiF/X Surrounds
    Polk Audio LSiC Center
    Definitive Technology PowerField 1800 Subwoofer
    Parasound Classic 7100 Pre/Pro
    Parasound 2205A Amplifier
    Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD Blu-ray Player
    Monster HTS 2600
    Microsoft XBox 360
    Samsung PN64D550 64" Plasma
  • stewdog8660
    stewdog8660 Posts: 1
    edited September 2008
    anyone need nib sl3000 tweeters.just picked up 4 last ones at polk dealer in my area,only used 2,will sell other 2,make offer.
  • Ethancf
    Ethancf Posts: 458
    edited September 2008
    anyone need nib sl3000 tweeters.just picked up 4 last ones at polk dealer in my area,only used 2,will sell other 2,make offer.

    I think my post was just hijacked. :eek:
    THE SYSTEM
    Polk Audio LSi25 Mains
    Polk LSiF/X Surrounds
    Polk Audio LSiC Center
    Definitive Technology PowerField 1800 Subwoofer
    Parasound Classic 7100 Pre/Pro
    Parasound 2205A Amplifier
    Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD Blu-ray Player
    Monster HTS 2600
    Microsoft XBox 360
    Samsung PN64D550 64" Plasma
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited September 2008
    anyone need nib sl3000 tweeters.just picked up 4 last ones at polk dealer in my area,only used 2,will sell other 2,make offer.

    Hey thread jacker, knock it off. Play by the rules here and we'll be nice.




    Sorry about that rude interruption Ethancf.
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited September 2008
    Ethan,

    Tough call...price is ok even for 6/10s, but no cable, no provinence. If they are close, go look/listen and make an offer. Maybe the seller will go to $450 if you can make your case. Cable, cabinets, crossovers, tweeters are going to cost more than he's asking now...you need a deal ;)

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • Ethancf
    Ethancf Posts: 458
    edited September 2008
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    Ethan,

    Tough call...price is ok even for 6/10s, but no cable, no provinence. If they are close, go look/listen and make an offer. Maybe the seller will go to $450 if you can make your case. Cable, cabinets, crossovers, tweeters are going to cost more than he's asking now...you need a deal ;)

    So what's the purpose of the cable? If it doesn't come with the cable, do the speakers not work without it?
    THE SYSTEM
    Polk Audio LSi25 Mains
    Polk LSiF/X Surrounds
    Polk Audio LSiC Center
    Definitive Technology PowerField 1800 Subwoofer
    Parasound Classic 7100 Pre/Pro
    Parasound 2205A Amplifier
    Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD Blu-ray Player
    Monster HTS 2600
    Microsoft XBox 360
    Samsung PN64D550 64" Plasma
  • John in MA
    John in MA Posts: 1,010
    edited September 2008
    The speakers won't produce the SDA crosstalk cancellation without the SDA cable. Otherwise, they'll work like standard 2ch speakers although the imaging won't be as good as it can be.

    I'd make sure you're actually getting 2.3TLs before jumping on these. People tend to mis-ID big Polks with some frequency.

    $600 also sounds like a lot for a beat-up pair. I know they often go for a lot more, but they also sometimes go for less. Although in your neck of the woods they're probably a lot more rare than in other places.
  • Ethancf
    Ethancf Posts: 458
    edited September 2008
    As I mentioned, he said SDA 2...not 2.3...is there such a thing? Here is a photo...can anyone id for certain? Can the cable be purchased any longer?
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    THE SYSTEM
    Polk Audio LSi25 Mains
    Polk LSiF/X Surrounds
    Polk Audio LSiC Center
    Definitive Technology PowerField 1800 Subwoofer
    Parasound Classic 7100 Pre/Pro
    Parasound 2205A Amplifier
    Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD Blu-ray Player
    Monster HTS 2600
    Microsoft XBox 360
    Samsung PN64D550 64" Plasma
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited September 2008
    Those are the older 2.3's with the donut drivers. Yes the left speaker is where the left should be, and the right is where the right should be;)
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • John in MA
    John in MA Posts: 1,010
    edited September 2008
    Those are not 2.3TLs. Not SRS 2s, either. They're original SDA-SRS 2.3s with the SL2000 tweeters. Depending on your ears, you may feel like replacing them with silk domes.
  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited September 2008
    John in MA wrote: »
    Those are not 2.3TLs. Not SRS 2s, either. They're original SDA-SRS 2.3s with the SL2000 tweeters. Depending on your ears, you may feel like replacing them with silk domes.

    I tried silk domes for awhile but the ears I was born with feel more natural.;)
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  • stubby
    stubby Posts: 723
    edited September 2008
    Those are SRS 2.3's. NOT 2.3TL's. They have the mass loaded mid woofers. Probably early models since the rear ID calls them SRS2. TL's would have SL3000 tweets and the stereo/dimensional arrays would be reversed. IOW, the inboard array should have four drivers and the outside array would have two. Hope that makes sense!!

    stubby
    SRS 3.1TL
    Harman Kardon Citation 5.1
    Anthem AVM2



  • Ethancf
    Ethancf Posts: 458
    edited September 2008
    Regarding the new discoveries regarding model...what's a fair price?
    THE SYSTEM
    Polk Audio LSi25 Mains
    Polk LSiF/X Surrounds
    Polk Audio LSiC Center
    Definitive Technology PowerField 1800 Subwoofer
    Parasound Classic 7100 Pre/Pro
    Parasound 2205A Amplifier
    Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD Blu-ray Player
    Monster HTS 2600
    Microsoft XBox 360
    Samsung PN64D550 64" Plasma
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited September 2008
    well,, now that we know they are 2.3's,,IIRC the cable is a pin/blade,,, you can take two rca jacks,,connect a good guage wire to each,, strip/peel off the "collar",,and you have an interconnect,, the blade on the p/b cable was used mainly as support,, the "pin" is the key to your SDA sweetness,,without it,,you are not getting the desired effect?Or,, you can stick the bare wire ends into the round pin hole from each speaker. good luck,,let us know how it turns out.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited September 2008
    They are still very nice speakers. $600 is still a good price. Most change out the tweeters any way. THE BIG THING IS THEY ARE LOCAL. With limited number of SDA's you might not be able to score on big boys again.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited September 2008
    $600 is fair to me.. anything less and it would be a steal of a deal. ;)

    oh yeah.. the SDA cables activates the dimensional array drivers in each speaker. without the cable... they are silent.. the speakers would great without the cable. and are pretty incredible with the cable. so get the damn cable ;)
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,735
    edited September 2008
    2.3's, beat up, $600.00 is too much. Get them for less or pass.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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    President of Club Polk

  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited September 2008
    If he was in NY, NJ, Cali... , but he is in Boise, Idaho. If you really want SDA's snag them up. You can always sell them. It may take a while, but you will get your money back.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited September 2008
    ben62670 wrote: »
    If he was in NY, NJ, Cali... , but he is in Boise, Idaho. If you really want SDA's snag them up. You can always sell them. It may take a while, but you will get your money back.
    +1

    Make an offer, but even at full boat, you won't find anything else nearly as good for $600.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • Ethancf
    Ethancf Posts: 458
    edited September 2008
    Decided to pass. The guy was a condescending **** and wouldn't go below 600. Since the cable was missing, and the condition was pretty bad, it felt better to pass. They are rare in my neck of the woods. Tough choice for sure.

    Perhaps a round of LSi would ease the pain. But would I see much improvement from my current RT gear?
    THE SYSTEM
    Polk Audio LSi25 Mains
    Polk LSiF/X Surrounds
    Polk Audio LSiC Center
    Definitive Technology PowerField 1800 Subwoofer
    Parasound Classic 7100 Pre/Pro
    Parasound 2205A Amplifier
    Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD Blu-ray Player
    Monster HTS 2600
    Microsoft XBox 360
    Samsung PN64D550 64" Plasma