LSiC center speaker is not working.

kasuza
kasuza Posts: 29
edited May 2009 in Troubleshooting
One of two speakers of LSiC center speaker is not working. I don't hear any sound from the left speaker; however, i able to hear sound from the right speaker of LSiC. How do i fix broken speaker? and How much does it cost to fix it?
Samsung UN46C8000
Integra DTR-70.2 9.2 channels receiver
Martin Logan Source Special Edition Front (Dark Cherry)
Polk LsiC Center speaker (Ebony) (no Cherry):frown:
Polk Lsi9 Surround (Dark Cherry)
Polk Lsi7 Back Surround (Dark Cherry)
Polk Micro PSW3000 Subwoofer
Sony Playstation 3
Thermaltake DH 103 case HTPC
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited August 2008
    Is it still under warranty?
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited August 2008
    Isn't this just the issue of the cascading driver system the LSiC uses?
    Speakers: Polk LSi15
    Pre: Adcom GFP-750 with HT Bypass
    Amp: Pass Labs X-150
    CD/DVD Player: Classe CDP-10
    Interconnects: MIT Shortgun S3 Pro XLR
    Speaker cables: MIT MH-750 bi-wire
    TT:Micro Seiki DD-35
    Cartridge:Denon DL-160
    Phono Pre:PS Audio GCPH
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited August 2008
    tcrossma wrote: »
    Isn't this just the issue of the cascading driver system the LSiC uses?

    I am working on one now. The drivers appear to be fine. I think its in the XO. I'll post my findings.
    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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  • candyliquor35m
    candyliquor35m Posts: 2,267
    edited August 2008
    You can swap the working driver with the non-working driver and see if the problem follows the driver.
  • kasuza
    kasuza Posts: 29
    edited August 2008
    My LSiC is no longer under warranty. I don't know how to swap driver or open the speaker. I think it's best for me to send to polk audio repair center; however, i don't know how much it costs to fix it. I hope under $100. If not, i am going to deal with it.
    Samsung UN46C8000
    Integra DTR-70.2 9.2 channels receiver
    Martin Logan Source Special Edition Front (Dark Cherry)
    Polk LsiC Center speaker (Ebony) (no Cherry):frown:
    Polk Lsi9 Surround (Dark Cherry)
    Polk Lsi7 Back Surround (Dark Cherry)
    Polk Micro PSW3000 Subwoofer
    Sony Playstation 3
    Thermaltake DH 103 case HTPC
  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited August 2008
    kasuza wrote: »
    My LSiC is no longer under warranty. I don't know how to swap driver or open the speaker. I think it's best for me to send to polk audio repair center; however, i don't know how much it costs to fix it. I hope under $100. If not, i am going to deal with it.

    Are you sure the speaker is faulty? The LSiC has a cascading crossover design the runs one driver much more than the other. Do a search on this forum and you'll see a LOT of people who have posted thinking their speaker was broken when it was in fact working as intended. How are you diagnosing that your speaker is not working? If it's just by playing something and seeing if both drivers are operating at the same time, that's not going to cut it.
    Speakers: Polk LSi15
    Pre: Adcom GFP-750 with HT Bypass
    Amp: Pass Labs X-150
    CD/DVD Player: Classe CDP-10
    Interconnects: MIT Shortgun S3 Pro XLR
    Speaker cables: MIT MH-750 bi-wire
    TT:Micro Seiki DD-35
    Cartridge:Denon DL-160
    Phono Pre:PS Audio GCPH
  • kasuza
    kasuza Posts: 29
    edited August 2008
    tcrossma wrote: »
    Are you sure the speaker is faulty? The LSiC has a cascading crossover design the runs one driver much more than the other. Do a search on this forum and you'll see a LOT of people who have posted thinking their speaker was broken when it was in fact working as intended. How are you diagnosing that your speaker is not working? If it's just by playing something and seeing if both drivers are operating at the same time, that's not going to cut it.

    Thank you very much! I put my fingers on both speakers to test the vibration and sound. Sometime, i feel both of them vibrate and produce sound; however, speaker on the right side vibrates and produce more sound than on the left side.
    Samsung UN46C8000
    Integra DTR-70.2 9.2 channels receiver
    Martin Logan Source Special Edition Front (Dark Cherry)
    Polk LsiC Center speaker (Ebony) (no Cherry):frown:
    Polk Lsi9 Surround (Dark Cherry)
    Polk Lsi7 Back Surround (Dark Cherry)
    Polk Micro PSW3000 Subwoofer
    Sony Playstation 3
    Thermaltake DH 103 case HTPC
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited August 2008
    One of them only operates in the low bass region;)
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited September 2008
    tcrossma wrote: »
    Are you sure the speaker is faulty? The LSiC has a cascading crossover design the runs one driver much more than the other. Do a search on this forum and you'll see a LOT of people who have posted thinking their speaker was broken when it was in fact working as intended. How are you diagnosing that your speaker is not working? If it's just by playing something and seeing if both drivers are operating at the same time, that's not going to cut it.

    cool and of course definete example of how post count titles mean so little now.

    always great to be edumacated.

    RT1
  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited September 2008
    cool and of course definete example of how post count titles mean so little now.

    always great to be edumacated.

    RT1

    Is there something wrong with my post? I believe it was accurate information and I believe it turned out to be his issue. Maybe I'm taking your post wrong, but I always try to be helpful and make relevant posts -- I've never once boosted my post count with useless posts. What do you have an issue with specifically?
    Speakers: Polk LSi15
    Pre: Adcom GFP-750 with HT Bypass
    Amp: Pass Labs X-150
    CD/DVD Player: Classe CDP-10
    Interconnects: MIT Shortgun S3 Pro XLR
    Speaker cables: MIT MH-750 bi-wire
    TT:Micro Seiki DD-35
    Cartridge:Denon DL-160
    Phono Pre:PS Audio GCPH
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited September 2008
    nope your post is excellent.

    RT1
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited September 2008
    Well the one I am working on definitely has issues. After running for a while it starts to distort....
    Thanks Ted:rolleyes:
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
  • woweu2006
    woweu2006 Posts: 68
    edited May 2009
    i have the same problem. the left speaker of my LSIC not make any sound. all the dialogue is from the right speaker of the my LSIC.
    Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100
    Polk Audio LSI15 - Front
    Polk Audio LSIC - Center
    Polk Audio PSW10 - Sub
    Polk Audio R50 - Surround
    Playstation 3 80GB - Blu-Ray Player
    Denon AVR-989
    Denon 758
    http://californiammo.com/
    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited May 2009
    woweu2006 wrote: »
    i have the same problem. the left speaker of my LSIC not make any sound. all the dialogue is from the right speaker of the my LSIC.

    While I do make it a point to try and ignore your posts - I will quote a reply (or two) I have given to others when this question comes up. (at least once every couple of weeks).
    McLoki wrote: »
    first things first - welcome to club polk. Pull up a chair and look around. You just may like it here. (then again you may not... )

    Now on to the question - Are you sure you have a problem? The reason I ask is listed in the following threads from some of the many times people ask about the left speaker working in thier LSiC.
    McLoki wrote: »
    Here is a start

    And another

    And another

    And another

    And another


    long story short - I think you are fine.

    If the left side is not just less volume than the right, what is the problem that you think it is broken?

    Let us know and we will help whereever we can.

    Michael
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • zeppage2
    zeppage2 Posts: 196
    edited May 2009
    the speaker runs about $50
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited May 2009
    woweu2006 wrote: »
    i have the same problem. the left speaker of my LSIC not make any sound. all the dialogue is from the right speaker of the my LSIC.

    Did you read through the thread before you posted in it? Did you try playing something that has a wide frequency range through the center channel?

    The LSiC uses a Cascade Tapered Array XO design. The two drivers work together over some of the frequency range, but one of them is essentially a low bass driver. The vast majority of the sound and nearly all of the dialogue will come from only one of the drivers.

    I'm guessing your speaker is just fine.
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • woweu2006
    woweu2006 Posts: 68
    edited May 2009
    i picked up a another brand new LSIC, and found the same problem. A guy at Fry's shows me a LSIC, the left speaker not make any sound. Most of the dialogue is from the right speaker of the LSIC.

    So, i totally tested 3 LSIC, and they are all the same.

    So, I think that maybe this is the original design of LSIC. Right?

    i also tested a CSI A6, and both speakers ( left and Right ) they all works at the same time.

    The guy at fry's also think it's wired. I have no idea why the left speaker and right speaker of the LSIC not balanced.

    Supposed the 2 speakers should be balanced.
    Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100
    Polk Audio LSI15 - Front
    Polk Audio LSIC - Center
    Polk Audio PSW10 - Sub
    Polk Audio R50 - Surround
    Playstation 3 80GB - Blu-Ray Player
    Denon AVR-989
    Denon 758
    http://californiammo.com/
    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited May 2009
    That's how it's supposed to work.

    One of the drivers is essentially a dedicated low bass driver, where as the other driver reproduces the upper bass, and all of the midrange. That's the driver that will carry the majority of the center channel information. Think of it as a 3-way speaker if that makes it simpler.

    The CSiA6 uses an entirely different XO design, which is why both of the drivers produce the same sound.
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2009
    Did you bother to read this thread, the manual or Polk's description: http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/center.php#lsi
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • woweu2006
    woweu2006 Posts: 68
    edited May 2009
    my conclusion is that lsic is very special. it's like nothing else.
    Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100
    Polk Audio LSI15 - Front
    Polk Audio LSIC - Center
    Polk Audio PSW10 - Sub
    Polk Audio R50 - Surround
    Playstation 3 80GB - Blu-Ray Player
    Denon AVR-989
    Denon 758
    http://californiammo.com/
    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited May 2009
    Either that or you're just trying to find some more information so you can sell some more stuff at a price higher than retail.:rolleyes:

    Really though...was it even necessary to ask those questions? This thread answered the very same question before you even posted in it.
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • woweu2006
    woweu2006 Posts: 68
    edited May 2009
    retail for LSIC is $559.

    I bought mine for $320.

    So, a lot retailers are scamm customers, right?

    IMO, especially in the av world, most stuffs are over-priced.

    I bought a Monster 5 channel amplifier for $700. Do you know what's the retail price? $3500. lol

    They just over-price eveything and then these stuff on sale, and you can get it cheap, even 70% off. Do you know both the manufacturer and the retailer, they all can also make money even sell it 70% retail price.

    They think ppl like above guys are "Smart", deep pocked, lol
    Sony BRAVIA W-Series KDL-52W4100
    Polk Audio LSI15 - Front
    Polk Audio LSIC - Center
    Polk Audio PSW10 - Sub
    Polk Audio R50 - Surround
    Playstation 3 80GB - Blu-Ray Player
    Denon AVR-989
    Denon 758
    http://californiammo.com/
    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited May 2009
    woweu2006 wrote: »
    retail for LSIC is $559.

    I bought mine for $320.

    So, a lot retailers are scamm customers, right?

    IMO, especially in the av world, most stuffs are over-priced.

    I bought a Monster 5 channel amplifier for $700. Do you know what's the retail price? $3500. lol

    They just over-price eveything and then these stuff on sale, and you can get it cheap, even 70% off. Do you know both the manufacturer and the retailer, they all can also make money even sell it 70% retail price.

    They think ppl like above guys are "Smart", deep pocked, lol

    1. Pray that the Monster amp will not fall apart within 3 months.

    2. Don't sell the stuff they are nearly falling apart with a lot more than what you paid for to other folks. :)

    3. New in Box is New in Box, Used is Used! So, just advertise the stuff for what it is. I am sure you wouldn't want to buy New in Box that looks used. :)

    4. Why insult others when you don't have a cent out from your pocket? It's him money and he pays for the fair price. If you buy cheap, consider yourself you are doing better than others.
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited May 2009
    woweu2006 wrote: »
    retail for LSIC is $559.

    I bought mine for $320.

    So, a lot retailers are scamm customers, right?

    IMO, especially in the av world, most stuffs are over-priced.

    I bought a Monster 5 channel amplifier for $700. Do you know what's the retail price? $3500. lol

    They just over-price eveything and then these stuff on sale, and you can get it cheap, even 70% off. Do you know both the manufacturer and the retailer, they all can also make money even sell it 70% retail price.

    They think ppl like above guys are "Smart", deep pocked, lol


    How is this even remotely related to YOU selling a USED product at over the cost of the retail price of a NEW product?

    Never mind the fact that you advertise something for sale as "new in box" and then show a picture of it hooked up in your room with various knick-knacks sitting on top of it.:rolleyes:

    Sure, a lot of things in the audio/video world are very high priced. You get what you pay for. For those of us who aren't "deep-pocket", there are plenty of affordable options out there as well.

    These are companies that are in the business of making money. There's a difference between that and you going and buying something and trying to sell it for higher than retail price.
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
    PolkAudio LSi9's/PolkAudio SDA 2A's/PolkAudio Monitor 7A's
    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's