RTA 12 (A) schematic?

w1jim
w1jim Posts: 8
edited August 2008 in Troubleshooting
How / where can I get a schematic for the crossover on my RTA12s. These are the original version and I want to upgrade / replace the caps. These are awesome speakers (much to the chagrin of my other speakers).
Tnx,
JimB
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited August 2008
    First welcome to Club Polk. Also I would suggest changing the resistors too. Those couple mods will bring them back to better than new specks.
    Enjoy
    Ben
    schematic
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38755
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    Ben
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  • w1jim
    w1jim Posts: 8
    edited August 2008
    Ben,
    Thanks big time. I have some high quality instrumentation resistors on hand here. Values from 0.1 ohms to 1,000,000,000,000 ohms (that's a freaky glass thing). Any type of construction I should steer towards or away from?
    JimB
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited August 2008
    The values of the resistors are typically 2.7r to 15r, and you should use 10w or better noninductive resistors. What caps are you looking to use?
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  • w1jim
    w1jim Posts: 8
    edited August 2008
    For the tweeter circuitry I'll use the Dayton Metallized Polypropylene caps from parts express (250 volts - 10%). For the low frequency circuits I'll be using their bi-polar electrolytics (at least for now); they're 5% and rated for 100 Volts. I may upgrade these later but for now the bi-polars will have to do.
    BTW, some have suggested not using the bypass caps as these modern caps don't need that. I notice that the schematic doesn't show them so I'll plan on leaving them out.
    I'll be powering these with a Harman Kardon HK690i which is rated at 60 watts per channel. I also have a Sony STR-GX90ES receiver which I think is rated at 90w per in the other system. I have no plans to go for "big power" anytime soon.
    I see on the schematic that R is 1.69 ohms but I can't make out the value of R3; can you help me on that (else I can just measure the ones on the PCB.
    Thanks again,
    JimB
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited August 2008
    I would go poly on all caps. The cheap caps I have tried, and there was no improvement over the 20 YO caps that were originals. Its best to double check your XO boards with a meter anyways. Polk liked to mix things up a bit.
    Ben
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  • w1jim
    w1jim Posts: 8
    edited August 2008
    I just installed the poly caps in one of my crossovers and am comparing it with the other (stock) one. I think there is a significant improvement. I'll have to listen for a while like this and then swap their positions (one of my ears is certainly going to have a different response curve then the other from years of driving with my driverside window open. I guess the Brits and Japanese would have the situation with their right ears versus the left in most of the world. Hmmm, I wonder if anyone ever did a study of that and adjust with different specs for left versus right speakers?
    The Dayton Caps are larger. I siliconed them on the underside for support. There's also one 2uf cap on the underside of the PCB (making the 25 a 27)..
    So, I'm about $85 poorer but even happier with the performance of my beautiful RTA 12A speakers. Wow, now I've got a total of $135 invested in them. Works for me! (See attached pix.)
    JimB
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited August 2008
    Nice job!
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • jimmyward
    jimmyward Posts: 1
    I also have the RTA 12s and the sound has degraded. I can not find a schematic or parts layout of the crossover. Could someone provide me with a copy so I can replace the caps as mine are not all labeled. thanks
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  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 4,500
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