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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited July 2008
    update please!
    What's the seller say?
    I hope he's not inclined to duck his part of the deal.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited July 2008
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    update please!
    What's the seller say?
    I hope he's not inclined to duck his part of the deal.

    So far he has been very responsive. He needed some additional info from me to file the claim. Time will tell. If I don't get satisfaction from him directly then I can dispute it thru PayPal. Having him file a claim is by far the easiest. It's just a waiting game right now.

    It's ironic that my new job is with a trade association called AMPC (Association of Mail and Parcel Centers) I'm the operations manager so I have an "in" as far as how all this stuff works from both sides. I'm fairly new to the parcel and mail business so I'm getting up to speed very quickly.:p Plus, I have a wealth of knowledge to draw from.

    At this point it's really he who has to initiate everything since the package origin resides with him. Even if I stick my nose in the middle UPS won't give me any info. They send all the forms, info and finally payment of the claim to him, and it has to go thru him. If he used a "parcel shop" to ship this (which I believe he said) they actually take the ball and start the process on his behalf.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited July 2008
    heiney9 wrote: »
    It's ironic that my new job is with a trade association called AMPC (Association of Mail and Parcel Centers) I'm the operations manager so I have an "in" as far as how all this stuff works from both sides. I'm fairly new to the parcel and mail business so I'm getting up to speed very quickly.:p Plus, I have a wealth of knowledge to draw from.



    H9

    Why didn't you tell us this in the first place.:rolleyes: That's why you didn't get your shipment. It's a conspiracy I tell ya!!!:D:eek:
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited July 2008
    ND13 wrote: »
    Why didn't you tell us this in the first place.:rolleyes: That's why you didn't get your shipment. It's a conspiracy I tell ya!!!:D:eek:

    I know!! Actually I haven't been in the "industry" long enough for a conspiracy against me......................but it certainly is ironic.

    Why I didn't take the extra time to add an additional verified shipping address to my PayPal account, I don't know. I honestly believe it's lost/mis-delivered rather than stolen, but who the hell knows.

    I'm pissed because I missed out on a pair of LSi 7's for $99. I'd rahter have the package than the cash!!!!!

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited July 2008
    My experience has been that it takes the shipper's between 3-6 months to settle claims, they encourage the claiment to "go away". Basically its a stall as some folks will just forget about it and the hassle.

    Bottom line is its on the seller, I can understand his needing info and checking things out but after a couple weeks I would just send you your dough back. Sorry you may have lost out on a killer deal.

    RT1
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited July 2008
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    My experience has been that it takes the shipper's between 3-6 months to settle claims, they encourage the claiment to "go away". Basically its a stall as some folks will just forget about it and the hassle.

    Bottom line is its on the seller, I can understand his needing info and checking things out but after a couple weeks I would just send you your dough back. Sorry you may have lost out on a killer deal.

    RT1

    I will say if I don't get too much feedback not only from the seller but UPS I will file a claim thru PayPal towards the end of the grace period. I'm not going to be out the money and the merchandise.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited July 2008
    Brock you just said the the evil word. Dont even get me started on PP and there claim process.

    We must always remember that Paypal is replete with suckiocity.

    Hopefully the fellow will just give you the dough or speaks will somehow show.

    RT1
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited July 2008
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    Brock you just said the the evil word. Dont even get me started on PP and there claim process.

    We must always remember that Paypal is replete with suckiocity.

    Hopefully the fellow will just give you the dough or speaks will somehow show.

    RT1

    Yes, I know Ted. They did me right once and it's probably way to much to ask for them to do me right again.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited July 2008
    Lasareath wrote: »
    I have a Friend, He lives in Baltimore, they do this to him as well, He takes it inside and fills out a claim with UPS that he never received his package and that's not his signature. And he gets his money back every time from the insurance.

    He says when they stop doing it he will stop!

    I'm told on good authority that the UPS process for "lost" packages is easier and gets paid much more than a damage claim. We'll see.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • petrym
    petrym Posts: 1,912
    edited July 2008
    Lasareath wrote: »
    I have a Friend, He lives in Baltimore, they do this to him as well, He takes it inside and fills out a claim with UPS that he never received his package and that's not his signature. And he gets his money back every time from the insurance.
    Sounds like fraud to me... no matter what the UPS procedure. :confused:
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    UPDATE:

    Seller contacted me on Friday and UPS sent him the paperwork for the entire claim (what he insured the item for) so it looks like at this point I'll get all my money back and the seller won't be out anything either.

    This seller was on the ball and did what he was supposed to do in a very efficient and polite manner. TODDCO aka Dylan are you reading this.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    Here we go, not able to edit my previous post.

    Toddco and dylan are not the same person. I got my deadbeat seller mixed up.

    Sorry :o
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    Final update:

    Just got a full refund (minus) PAYPAL fees from the seller. It's nice to know you can do business with honorable, responsible people on Ebay. Still would rather have the LSi 7's but this worked out for me.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited August 2008
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Final update:

    Just got a full refund (minus) PAYPAL fees from the seller. It's nice to know you can do business with honorable, responsible people on Ebay. Still would rather have the LSi 7's but this worked out for me.

    H9

    Outstanding. But somewhere there is a new LSI-7 owner lurking in the shadows.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited August 2008
    Congrats on getting your dough back, still sucks that you didn't get the 7's. Take it as a sign that you should be seeking 9's.:D
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    LessisNevermore wrote: »
    Congrats on getting your dough back, still sucks that you didn't get the 7's. Take it as a sign that you should be seeking 9's.:D

    Maybe, except I used to have 9's and sold them for my SDA's. The LSi 7's would have been a nice secondary speaker to my 5B's for the office rig. The price was right. Ahhhhhh well........

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited August 2008
    Money back in your pocket sounds good to me. Now you can buy us a few beers during happy hour on Oct 16. ;)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited August 2008
    Ricardo wrote: »
    Money back in your pocket sounds good to me. Now you can buy us a few beers during happy hour on Oct 16. ;)

    I can buy ONE beer for all of you to share................how many straws?:D;)

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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