4 tube sets for Jolida JD100

treitz3
treitz3 Posts: 19,029
edited March 2009 in 2 Channel Audio
Ok, I know a lot of you have had or have a Jolida JD100 tubed CDP. I am currently running Sovtek12AX7LPS tubes. What I would like is to have 4 different [recommended] tube sets to play with. Price is not a concern but keep in mind I'm not looking for a rare set that costs thousands of dollars. All suggestions are welcome.

If you remember why [sound wise] you would recommend a particular tube set, throw me some of your knowledge. It's time to start some tube rolling. ;)
~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited July 2008
    The best 12AX7s I've used, imo, were Telefunken smooth plates w/ diamond bottoms. The only thing is, they tend to be a little salty.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited July 2008
    Salty?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited July 2008
    Expensive
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited July 2008
    Tom, I have two "The Fisher" Telefunkens I bought from Russman some time ago. No idea if they are in good/bad condition and I have no tube gear right now. I'll ship them to you if you PM me your addy.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited July 2008
    That's a very nice offer Ricardo, thank you. I believe that I will take you up on it. PM on it's way there, bro'.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited July 2008
    Jesse and I had a discussion about this yesterday. Both he and I keep going back to the EI Gold Pins. I have the same Sovtek's. I put them in every once and a while but always put the EI's back in.

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited July 2008
    I have a pair of Yugoslavian Ei 12AX7's, but the pins damn sure ain't gold. If memory serves, this is the one [Ei gold pin] that Jesse has recommended to others in the past.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    edited July 2008
    try the tungsol reissue ecc803s or ge 5751 5 star, i use them in my jolida 502a integrated amp.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited July 2008
    EI elite gold pins! They are the bomb in the Jolida CDP! I have the Sovtek LPS tubes, and they are good, just not as big of soundstage as the EI elites. I have some CBS Hytron black plates, but I couldn't really tell a difference between them and the EI elites.
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,338
    edited July 2008
    I would go with the vintage tubes. Telefunken smooth plates, Bugle Boys, RCA clear tops and Mullards. The 12 AX7 family is filled with different flavors of tubes to enjoy. I tend to stay away from the new tubes, that's just me.
    Carl

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,561
    edited July 2008
    I think I've tried just about everything, old and new including 5751's. The Ei's are still my choice.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited July 2008
    ND13 wrote: »
    The best 12AX7s I've used, imo, were Telefunken smooth plates w/ diamond bottoms. The only thing is, they tend to be a little salty.

    what he said. I like the Telefunkens in mine and the IE's are good too.

    You can find the Telefunkens on the Bay at times cheap. Also look for ECC83's.

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  • bikerboy
    bikerboy Posts: 1,211
    edited July 2008
    I dont know how they will work in your cdp, but the Mullard re issues work very well for drivers in my Jolida 502 amp. Very balanced top to bottom and great mid range.
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited July 2008
    I agree about the Tele. It's the best X7 I've used.
    If you want the complete opposite of Telefunken, try Mullard. They're warm, laid back and more full bodied.
    For new production, the Ei is a Tele copy. They're made on Telefunken's machine.
    JJ is also very good. Similar to Mullard.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited July 2008
    Any others before I order?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Roy Munson
    Roy Munson Posts: 886
    edited July 2008
    Ei Elite gold pins...you won't be disappointed!
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited July 2008
    The Gold pins are becoming harder to find since Ei is no more (purchased by Western Electric). The regular golds are just as good.
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited July 2008
    I did not like the Bugle Boys in mine at all. Way too laid back on the treble end. I liked the Svetlana and the Sovtek LPS.
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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited July 2008
    Out of all the tubes I tried. The Solvtek LPS were the best IMO.



    Nick
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  • 55LS70
    55LS70 Posts: 184
    edited August 2008
    For 12AX7's, smooth plate Telefunkens sound pretty good in my rig. As far as new production goes the Sovtek LPS gets my recommendation. When compared to each other the Teles have considerably more detail and smoothness, but the Teles also cost about four or five times as much money. I've yet to try a Mullard, Phillips or EI, but plan to do sometime in the future. (I have tried Mullard 12AU7 variants and they've help produce some of the best results on my equipment so far.) I also experimented with JJ's and RCA gray plates (the ones with the getter material on top) and both ended up deeply buried in my tube stash. While the JJ's were acceptable the RCA's were unlistenable. Nothing but grain, thinness and lack of detail. Just my 2 cents worth. Good luck in you search.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited August 2008
    Thank you for your input 55LS70, it's appreciated. Thanks to all of you. Any more suggestions?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited August 2008
    nikolas812 wrote: »
    Out of all the tubes I tried. The Solvtek LPS were the best IMO.



    Nick

    Same here,Ei Elite GP's,Electro-Harmonix,and I keep going back to the Solvtek.

    Although I just put a pair of Amperex 12AU7A's in my pre...and I'm liking what I'm hearing.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited March 2009
    Hot damn, finally found a set of 12AX7 Ei gold pins thanks to someone on this board who was lookin' out for me. AWESOME!!!! Thanks! [You know who you are]
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited March 2009
    I forgot the RCA/GE/Raytheon Blackplates. I replaced the Teles with them and was very pleased. Never tried the gray plates.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited March 2009
    Damn, damn, damn. The daggum things were sold already. AAARRRRRGGGHHHH!!!!

    From the A-gon seller...."Thanks for your offer--However, I have already sold them. I have been without power, and was not able to mark them as sold."

    Damn. Damn. Damn. I need a beer now. Damn.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited March 2009
    Damn. Damn.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited March 2009
    that is frustrating about the gold pins. I would like to know if there is a big difference on the gold pins vs the Ei.

    So so far, what is your fave tube in there that you have tried. I am on day 3 of the EI ( not gold pin) and it is a bit more mellow in the bass over the Sovtek but it is starting to kind of loosen up and fall into place. I do like the mids and highs on it but the Sovtek had more boom. The Ei though seem more controlled in he bass not lacking it but more laid back in a way. Still letting them sing for another week or 2 before changing back to see the difference.
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