This site sickens me anymore!

gidrah · July 2008

WTF?????

I have been visiting this site for a few years now. I used to visit this site because I wanted to enjoy the people. Now I come back looking for it; and to be honest, am blinded by stupidity.

This site used to be about helping people. Now it's about worrying about the trolls and the guys with the "better rigs" telling other that they "should not waste their time".

There has never been an internet click (clique) that Has made my system sound better. Sure, I heard the hype, but ......

It is a subjective hobby (HOBBY)!
Post count should be taken in context.
I have A-7s and my fiance is a fox.
If you have a problem with anything I've said, PM me!

Sherardp · July 2008

with all that said, Welcome back. I think the site still is about helping people and making suggestions here and there along the way. I sure learned allot since I joined.

gidrah · July 2008

I'm just glad you didn't ruffle anybody's skirt. I miss a bunch of people too.

gidrah · July 2008

Maybe I should post more

gidrah · July 2008

Sshh. Are you sure you want to reply?

SCompRacer · July 2008

Chaff, grain, sort, ignore...

Some forums I belong/belonged to didn't show a post count. Start a thread, take a poll, put it up for vote. We could all use another useless

thread.

Welcome back. Roll the dice, post more, see what happens.

gidrah · July 2008

I've been a bystander for too long.

Please do not get me wrong, there are a bunch of members that know what they are talking about and are willing to help (I'm drunk), but damn.

Sometimes it's just better to leave it alone. Sometimes people antagonize. Around this site "sometimes" is becoming the constant (if the herd lets it).

BaggedLancer · July 2008

welcome back!

TroyD · July 2008

Mark,

Well, one thing to keep in perspective is that the forum is, IMO, larger and more diverse than it used to be. Plus, you know, we had some real doozies in the past as well. Chris/Snake, Trigg, liv4fam, HUNTER, etc etc....so, you know it's a constant to an extent.

Again, more people=more personality clashes.

There is STILL a lot of the good stuff going on. One, I haven't seen a new person come in that wasn't welcomed with open arms. Sure, there are a lot of opinionated folks but I DON'T see the new folks being offered up for slaughter. Sure we have some opinionated folks and so forth and while it may be, I dunno, intimdating for someone to break in, I DON'T see the open hostility to those who swim upstream UNLESS they are just looking to piss people off. If you are looking for controversy, you surely can find it here.

Rock on with your Altec's, man. I'll take 10 dollar Dynaco A-25's all day long.

BDT

steveinaz · July 2008

I agree with your sentiments, especially in regard to the bit of "audio snobbery" that has been going on here lately. Not everyone wants to spend their life savings on audio, they're just looking for a decent system that does the job. We, as a group, need to understand and recognize this. Be helpful, veterans; don't be critical. Sure, everyone should upgrade this, or replace that--but let's focus on answering the question the poster asked--

candyliquor35m · July 2008

Upper management and the mods have been dropping hints here for months on how they expect everyone new and old to act but they seem to get ignored, closed and/or lost in the shuffle

Imperitor · July 2008

I'm fairly new and all I can say is that I got a lot more help and useful comments here then I did on any other forums. That’s why I'm still here!

steveinaz · July 2008

candyliquor35m wrote: »

Upper management and the mods have been dropping hints here for months on how they expect everyone new and old to act but they seem to get ignored, closed and/or lost in the shuffle

That's because there is a fine balancing act between allowing people to state their opinion, without intruding too much on valuable opinion. You also have a wide variety of personalities, and where exactly (or how) do you make a judgement call on those issues? I think the staff of this forum does a good job of trying to keep it about audio--but no one AND nothing is perfect. Forum's are tough to administrate--I had one years ago. It was more trouble than it was worth.

There has been a couple of occasions where I should have been banned for blantantly breaking the rules; but luckily, I would imagine they took my contributions (as a whole) into account and cut me some slack. I have never seen a forum so close-knit as this one. The reason for this (I believe) is positive peer pressure and high expectations that we hold each other too.

F1nut · July 2008

(I'm drunk)

Never a good time to post.

dkg999 · July 2008

Overall, compared to other forums I participate in, this one is pretty tame. Which is a good thing. We should all try to treat people with respect in this forum, and if we realize we will screw up from time-to-time, but we keep that goal in mind, this forum will continue to be the great place it always has been.

From time to time we have visitors that come with an agenda not so consistent with the agenda of the overall forum. We just need to learn as the Club Polk Family not to enable them.

PhantomOG · July 2008

I don't get what all the drama is about. This is, and always has been a great forum in my opinion. Tons of great people who are always willing to help each other out. Sure, every once in awhile people get into it with each other, but that's always going to happen in life. If everytime it happens we bang the drums and start 20 threads about it, yeah, it can seem like a big deal. But IT ISN'T. If you see something you don't like here, maybe instead of whining about it, start a thread or conversation you think does belong here instead. Its better for everyone as a whole if we just enjoy/point out the good parts to our forum instead of everyone pointing a finger to the couple of warts we have on our **** just like EVERY forum has.

Jstas · July 2008

gidrah wrote: »

Maybe I should post more

DING!

Everyone who complains about the state of the forums and doesn't post or used to post often and stopped doesn't get to complain. If you aren't participating, you're not part of the problem but you're not part of the solution either. You're not part of anything and that's not good.

This place is not about Polk Audio. It's about the people involved with Polk Audio from everyone at HQ and the factories and such to the owners who come here to talk shop, socialize and help everyone out. If you aren't participating in that then stop telling me that it makes you sick and you can't believe it and so on and so forth.

Now, this is for cl's edification. First off, shut up already. Now I don't think anyone rattles cages, stirs pots and pisses vinegar here more than me. I got a big mouth and a bad attitude at times according to most people. If I can get along here, anyone can. I don't know who this "core group" is but I'm not one of them as far as I know but I still come here everyday. There are people here that rub me the wrong way and I rub pretty much everyone the wrong way at some point. But I don't have hissy fits, cry and tell everyone I'm leaving. Asshats like faster100 do that, then they undo that and then they do it all over again.

If y'all wanna take your ball and go home, see ya. It's harsh, I know but who needs it? I come here to have fun and talk to the people I have known for a long time now. I have friends here and I like helping people out. I do my best to give good, accurate info and when jackasses like cl show up and tell us that the Polk engineers are morons and that they have some better idea they just stumbled upon, I take that seriously because it's misinformation. Does it hurt anyone? Maybe, maybe not. But if participation is what makes this forum, both good and bad, then I, like everyone else, have a responsibility here. This forum is about people. If it wasn't for involved people, it'd be nothing. So when a person comes and wants to get involved great! If they get involved and make a mistake or spread false info, then it is our responsibility as a community to inform the offender of the mistake to maintain integrity of the info. When the offender refuses to listen and goes on a crusade to prove a point that is just flat out wrong to begin with, it detracts from the community as a whole and for many reasons. But it is not a reason to take your ball and go.

There are plenty of times when I could have said the same and walked off or went on a rant about how this place sucks but you know what? It doesn't suck. This is one of the best places I know online and it's associated with a great company run by spectacular people who also see the merit and value here. Hell, the VP of the company invited all you freakin' monkeys to HIS HOUSE! That is just awesome!

So, cl, quit your BS, stop quoting the forum rules and broadcasting your propaganda. You're tiresome and no one will stop giving you crap because of your posts until you stop posting your crap. You can hang around but your stubbornness and close-mindedness needs to go. Seriously.

For the rest of you, a wise man told me once, if you can't have fun at what you are doing then go the hell home, nobody needs you here. Otherwise, pop a cold one, kick up your feet and sit down for a while and just relax! It's all good! No reason for the friction.

candyliquor35m · July 2008

Jstas wrote: »

DING!

Everyone who complains about the state of the forums and doesn't post or used to post often and stopped doesn't get to complain. If you aren't participating, you're not part of the problem but you're not part of the solution either. You're not part of anything and that's not good.

This place is not about Polk Audio. It's about the people involved with Polk Audio from everyone at HQ and the factories and such to the owners who come here to talk shop, socialize and help everyone out. If you aren't participating in that then stop telling me that it makes you sick and you can't believe it and so on and so forth.

Now, this is for cl's edification. First off, shut up already. Now I don't think anyone rattles cages, stirs pots and pisses vinegar here more than me. I got a big mouth and a bad attitude at times according to most people. If I can get along here, anyone can. I don't know who this "core group" is but I'm not one of them as far as I know but I still come here everyday. There are people here that rub me the wrong way and I rub pretty much everyone the wrong way at some point. But I don't have hissy fits, cry and tell everyone I'm leaving. Asshats like faster100 do that, then they undo that and then they do it all over again.

If y'all wanna take your ball and go home, see ya. It's harsh, I know but who needs it? I come here to have fun and talk to the people I have known for a long time now. I have friends here and I like helping people out. I do my best to give good, accurate info and when jackasses like cl show up and tell us that the Polk engineers are morons and that they have some better idea they just stumbled upon, I take that seriously because it's misinformation. Does it hurt anyone? Maybe, maybe not. But if participation is what makes this forum, both good and bad, then I, like everyone else, have a responsibility here. This forum is about people. If it wasn't for involved people, it'd be nothing. So when a person comes and wants to get involved great! If they get involved and make a mistake or spread false info, then it is our responsibility as a community to inform the offender of the mistake to maintain integrity of the info. When the offender refuses to listen and goes on a crusade to prove a point that is just flat out wrong to begin with, it detracts from the community as a whole and for many reasons. But it is not a reason to take your ball and go.

There are plenty of times when I could have said the same and walked off or went on a rant about how this place sucks but you know what? It doesn't suck. This is one of the best places I know online and it's associated with a great company run by spectacular people who also see the merit and value here. Hell, the VP of the company invited all you freakin' monkeys to HIS HOUSE! That is just awesome!

So, cl, quit your BS, stop quoting the forum rules and broadcasting your propaganda. You're tiresome and no one will stop giving you crap because of your posts until you stop posting your crap. You can hang around but your stubbornness and close-mindedness needs to go. Seriously.

For the rest of you, a wise man told me once, if you can't have fun at what you are doing then go the hell home, nobody needs you here. Otherwise, pop a cold one, kick up your feet and sit down for a while and just relax! It's all good! No reason for the friction.

Don't put words in my mouth.

I'm having a great day and I hope everyone else is too.

ohskigod · July 2008

candyliquor35m wrote: »

Upper management and the mods have been dropping hints here for months on how they expect everyone new and old to act but they seem to get ignored, closed and/or lost in the shuffle

thats a 2 way street there tiger. if you dont like people's reactions, then dont post silly posts. this coming from a guy that doesnt hate all your posts, just some.

conflict takes 2 parties, not one. your part of the problem wether you know it or not, not that I care mind you, just bringing up a point

Hey John,

great point on the "Everyone who complains about the state of the forums and doesn't post or used to post often and stopped doesn't get to complain" aspect. I agree wholeheartedly.

I follow a simple principle, if I like a forum....I hang around. If it isnt worth my effort, I punch out. Life is not = to rocket science here

amulford · July 2008

You're all a bunch of freaks...This is just the sideshow.

Welcome back Gidrah.

BeRad · July 2008

I have found that when I need advice, I get advice. If I want entertainment, I read in the clubhouse (where nothing seems like it should be taken too seriously. Personally I find that the Polk forums have done nothing but greatly increase both my knowledge of, and appreciation for everything my ears hear.

I love the fact that with 10 responses here, you can have 10 unique and valid takes on the situation. In one thread there can be well over 200 years of experience and for that, I will be here 'till the grave. (The problems here pale so badly to the excellence of this site that I can forget about it the second I am done reading it.)

ohskigod · July 2008

BeRad,

an excellent post indeed. You get what you get out of the forum because you choose what to take from it. this is a hell of a lesson for people who have not been doing that as of late, instead focussing on some things they dont like and suddenly being "sickenned" from it

I'm guilty of ignoring that advise on rare occasion as well.

jakelm · July 2008

AndyGwis · July 2008

I ran into a bunch of audio snobbery when I first joined here two years ago. I think I posted my "new system" of Polk Monitor HT speakers, and while most said "nice system" or "you're on the right track," some commented I should ditch the whole thing and get some "real" HT speakers.

Kinda sucks to hear that after you spend your bonus check on the speakers.

Now, after being here and learning the ways for two years, I kind of agree with the comments that were made (positively and negatively) about my gear, the negative ones just need to be phrased much more politely as to not offend.

Most people here are very kind and will go out of their way to help another out. I've learned a ton here and like to have the forum in my peripherals while I'm at work. While I'm mostly just hear to hawk gear now, it's still a great place to visit when trying not to work

So, yeah, in all walks of life (especially in a place where thousands of strangers share their thoughts, ideas, and opinions), you'll get into some verbal wars, pissing contests, etc., but this place is still about 90% good. Take it for what it's worth and don't sweat the negative stuff. . . because, after all, it's an audio forum. And, bitching about an audio forum pretty much means we all don't have much more to **** about, so we're very lucky people.

Jstas · July 2008

candyliquor35m wrote: »

Don't put words in my mouth.

I'm having a great day and I hope everyone else is too.

Put words in your mouth? Are you reading the same post I am?

Maybe you missed this part of my post: "First off, shut up already."

It's good advice, take it to heart.

candyliquor35m · July 2008

Jstas wrote: »

Put words in your mouth? Are you reading the same post I am?

Maybe you missed this part of my post: "First off, shut up already."

It's good advice, take it to heart.

I can ignore you without even using the ignore feature

Have a good day. I know I am.

dkg999 · July 2008

Did anyone note my previous comment on not enabling the trolls & troublemakers

danger boy · July 2008

gidrah wrote: »

Maybe I should post more

I don't like your attitude

Jstas · July 2008

candyliquor35m wrote: »

I can ignore you without even using the ignore feature

Have a good day. I know I am.

No you can't.

cfrizz · July 2008

And you expected them to listen to something that wise Doug????

That's the problem in here. There are too many would be stallions who feel the need to chase off other would be stallions. A vet needs to come in and geld the whole lot who think/act with the wrong head and turn this place into a war zone.

dkg999 wrote: »

Did anyone note my previous comment on not enabling the trolls & troublemakers

NotaSuv · July 2008

Well I have learned lots from all you wonderful folks....and believe me this message board is very TAME compared to other boards I post on.....
just sign onto any hard core Jeep board and ask a stupid newbie question...lol....after they cut you off at the knees they run ya over.. lol
I actually like a few waves in the pond..keeps it all interesting...and after all variety is th spice of life.....

This site sickens me anymore!

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