Tiger Woods to miss the remainder of 2008 Golf Season
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Tennis is the same way, extremely mental and you have to make better and better shots than your opponent in order to win and those shot making abilities (in all situations) does get into your opponents head.
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Tennis is absolutely a sport, having both offense & defense. I have a say in how well you'll perform by controling how I hit the ball back & handle your returns.
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There's a fatal flaw in your argument, a couple actually:
One, I think most people would agree that Olympic track and fields events, for example, are sport. If you won't grant me that then there's no need to read further. Your definition of sport would then be so limited that only a few things would be considered 'sports' and the definition of 'sport' really becomes meaningless and whether something is considered a sport or not is insignificant, and no further discussion is necessary.
However, if you're willina to accept the Olympic games as sport, then continue. There's no defense in hurdles, high jump, or any of those other events that I can think of. I could research and find all the Olympic events with no active defense, but I think you get my point. So, by your own definition these wouldn't be considered as sports - doesn't that strike you as odd?
Two, the argument that there is no defense in golf is just ludicrous. Tiger may not be trying to tackle you while you putt, but just him standing there looking at you is quite a defense, and has been effective against almost everyone against whom he's played. The fact that my mere presence can affect how well you perform is a pretty damn good defense in my opinion. -
pearsall001 wrote: »If you didn't care what my opinion was...why did you ask?? :rolleyes:shack wrote:So you have now redefined what a "sport" is?
If this is the question you are referring to...it was a rhetorical question...which by definition does not elicit a response. I didn't care then and don't now.
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Polkmaniac wrote: »There's a
Ummmmm.....I think you misread my post (or perhaps meant to quote someone else's post). I'm FOR golf being a sport as well as other individual types of games. I'm not arguing against it so your first sentence shouldn't apply. I agree with you. It's basically Pearsall001 that doesn't see the value of some individual games like golf as a sport.
I also never stated anywhere there is no defense in golf. A good offense is the best defense, IMO."Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Man. it doesn't take mush to ruffle feathers around here!!
Take a chill!!
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Yeah, meant to copy pearsall's original post, wierd.Ummmmm.....I think you misread my post (or perhaps meant to quote someone else's post). I'm FOR golf being a sport as well as other individual types of games. I'm not arguing against it so your first sentence shouldn't apply. I agree with you. It's basically Pearsall001 that doesn't see the value of some individual games like golf as a sport.
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During football season we have 17 weeks of 'games', football not a sport either???pearsall001 wrote: »Man. it doesn't take mush to ruffle feathers around here!! Take a chill!!
Oh, I wonder why they call them the Olympic Games???
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Polkmaniac wrote: »Yeah, meant to copy pearsall's original post, wierd.
After reading it again I figured that's what you meant. No harm, no foul "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
pearsall001 wrote: »Man. it doesn't take mush to ruffle feathers around here!! Take a chill!!
Oh, I wonder why they call them the Olympic Games???
I wouldn't say my feathers are ruffled, just some good natured discussion.............even though you're wrong!
;). "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
I wouldn't say my feathers are ruffled, just some good natured discussion.............even though you're wrong!;).
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Polkmaniac wrote: »During football season we have 17 weeks of 'games', football not a sport either???
Next...?
It most surely is...it's just that golf surely isn't."2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up. -
pearsall001 wrote: »Man. it doesn't take mush to ruffle feathers around here!! Take a chill!!
Oh, I wonder why they call them the Olympic Games???
I'd really like to see you make a serious argument that those in the Olympics are not athletes. Pffffffffffffffffffffft.
You are splitting hairs, here. I think that the premise that you are driving at is that there is no competition in golf which doesn't hold water. I'd actually say it's the most competitive in terms of relying on individual skill. No pressure? A couple of weeks ago, I needed to make about a 7 footer to win twenty bucks......I'd really hate to think about having to make that putt in front of millions of people for a million or so dollars.
Anyway, it's a stupid premise, stupid argument.
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pearsall001 wrote: »It most surely is...it's just that golf surely isn't.
There's a difference between opinion and fact and you've got the 2 horribly confused.
Opinions are like ****; everyone's got em, some just stink worse than others. I can smell yours from here man.....
Go back to being king of whatever it is your are king of. I won't go into a nascar thread and piss on the "sport", don't see why you would in regards to golf.2007 Club Polk Football Pool Champ
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Any logic or reasoning behind that, or or we just to take you at your word? Not that I would argue that the NFL is a sport, I'm just using you own 'logic' against you is all...pearsall001 wrote: »It most surely is...it's just that golf surely isn't.
Actually you haven't presented a compelling argument, and the one piss poor attempt you threw up I believe I refuted with two points, neither of which you've addressed.
I'm sorry, but this is thread-trolling at it's best. There's a thread about golf, which you enter only to say that golf isn't a sport and stir **** up, and then ask why people get so worked up?
Really? Are you honestly that clueless? If you can't see this then I suppose there's nothing I can do to help...
Now if you'd like to have an intelligent discussion in which we each bring up good points and address those of the other, then I'm all for it. I've already started, so feel free to address my points, it's your turn now.
I can actually think of one conceivable argument for a definition of the word 'sport' where golf may not be included, and that appears to pass all the logical tests I can think of at the moment, but I'm not gonna give it to you, you'll have to come up with your own.
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Let's back up a little here. First off, I simply stated that in my opinion golf is not a sport. Simple enough to understand because an opinion is only a personal belief or judgement & is by no means a fact.
I never challenged the dictionary in it's wording as to what a sport is. According to the definition golf most certainly falls under the sport category. I have absolutely no problem with that as it is written.
However, I can form my own opinion on the subject which does not detract from the original fact that golf is classified as a sport.
And my opinion is that golf is not a sport but simply a game. We can argue till the cows come home on this one but the end result will be the same.
According to the dictionary: golf is a sport.
According to my opinion: golf is not a sport.
An opinion can never be considered a fact. Seems fairly simple to me.
At least this isn't as bad as the old cables make a difference discussions!
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pearsall001 wrote: »According to the dictionary: golf is a sport.
According to my opinion: golf is not a sport.
In order for this to work you would need to give us your reasons why you think golf is not a sport(according to the dictionary).
Or you need to give your own refined definition of the word sport so we would all understand what you are saying. You might even consider your own word since sport is already taken and well known.Setup:
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