Tiger Woods to miss the remainder of 2008 Golf Season

TKOTED
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edited June 2008 in The Clubhouse
Looks like he is going to go under the knife again. This time to repair the ACL in the same knee that he just had arthroscopic surgery on.

Full story: http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=3450453
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited June 2008
    Kinda effs with the Fed-Ex Cup/PGA Player of the Year awards. Should he still win even if he doesn't participate in the season end final tourneys?

    He will still be ranked World No.1 and highest in points regardless of what happens.............could make this years Cup totally worthless.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited June 2008
    I don't think he's going to be a lock for the Cup points, not with the way they have it set up. If he doesn't play those tournaments I don't think he'll win, unless noone else on Tour can step up and win a couple.

    As for World rankings, I don't know how logn he'd have to sit out in order to slip there.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,739
    edited June 2008
    How the hell can someone be ranked No.1 without actually participating in their sport for the entire season? Sounds like total BS to me.
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited June 2008
    He has won 4 of 6 tournaments he played in this year. Unless someone jumps out of the pack and wins 3-4 times, he could be a lock for No.1 since he is so far ahead.

    At 22k points so far, he is 50% more than Phil and almost 100% more tha No. 3 Justin Leonard.
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  • Fireman32
    Fireman32 Posts: 4,845
    edited June 2008
    It sucks that he has to miss the rest of the season. But look at it in the long run if he kept playing his careear could be over.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited June 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    How the hell can someone be ranked No.1 without actually participating in their sport for the entire season? Sounds like total BS to me.
    Isn't that the way racing was for years, someone could lock up the championship halfway through the season, and that's about where we're at right now in the golf season.

    Being number 1 isn't about playing, it's about winning, and if you can win more in 4 events than other guys can in 20, then good on you.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,213
    edited June 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    How the hell can someone be ranked No.1 without actually participating in their sport for the entire season? Sounds like total BS to me.

    Same system as tennis. It's a points thing with huge emphasis given to the top 4 or 5 events. Win those and your a lock. I followed tennis for a long time and never figured out it out. Individual sports are much different than team sports. I'm sure you see some of this in the F1 series.

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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited June 2008
    of course, lets not forget the fact that Tiger is just so the best player in golf today from every logical standpoint.

    honestly, even if they gave someone else the number 1 ranking, what would that mean?

    hey, your ranked number 1.....congrats. when Tiger heals he's gonna d*ck slap you into next week on the course....LOL
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  • kingkip
    kingkip Posts: 401
    edited June 2008
    Tiger is so far ahead that Mickelson would have to win the next 10 majors to be ahead of him. The guy is a freak.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited June 2008
    It would have been a much better story if they had amputated his leg during the round and then he had gone on to win. HOWEVER...I doubt the announcers could have gushed over him any more. One might think that they actually DID amputate his leg to hear them talk, all the while he cured cancer, slayed a couple of dragons...and oh by the way...beat Rocco Mediate to win the US Open Golf Championship.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited June 2008
    shack, do you read Deadspin?

    I only ask because I just read a comment here that said something about Tiger winning with an amputated leg. :)
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited June 2008
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    shack, do you read Deadspin?

    I only ask because I just read a comment here that said something about Tiger winning with an amputated leg. :)

    No. I believed it to be an original thought....but maybe not.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,085
    edited June 2008
    You know, I'll admit that Tiger is bar none the most dominant golfer ever. I'd say that he might even be the most dominant figure in sports, ever. I know that is subject to debate but he's right there.....and some of the things he did in the Open were beyond description, but JAYZUZ, the on air commentary was ridiculous. I would have bet five bucks that Roger Maltbie, Gary Koch (sp) and Dan Hicks went down on Tiger in the locker room after the tournament.

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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,092
    edited June 2008
    We're talking about golf here!! You mean to tell me that people actually give a hoot!! About as exciting as watching paint dry.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited June 2008
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    We're talking about golf here!! You mean to tell me that people actually give a hoot!! About as exciting as watching paint dry.

    You can say that about any sport / activity you don't like.

    I can't understand how people watch cars turn right (or left or whatever direction NASCAR turns) for 4 hours, but... it's also one of the most popular things in the country, so if you enjoy it, have at it.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,213
    edited June 2008
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    We're talking about golf here!! You mean to tell me that people actually give a hoot!! About as exciting as watching paint dry.

    You should have watched Tiger's back nine in the third round on Saturday. That's about as exciting as it gets!! :)

    H9

    P.s. I also feel to a certain extent you have to be a avid golfer to appreciate how difficult the sport can be and the pro's make it look so easy.
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    jflail2 Posts: 2,868
    edited June 2008
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    You can say that about any sport / activity you don't like.

    I can't understand how people watch cars turn right (or left or whatever direction NASCAR turns) for 4 hours, but... it's also one of the most popular things in the country, so if you enjoy it, have at it.

    Exactly. I'd rather pluck my **** hairs out 1 by 1 than watch 4 hours of NASCAR, but it is HUGE here in NC so I have learned to live (ie ignore) with it.

    And Dennis, not only has he won 4 of 6 tournaments, if I recall correctly, hasn't he also finished in 2nd place in the other 2 tournaments? (one of which was the masters....)

    Like him or not (or the sport or not) he is ludicrously incredible...
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,092
    edited June 2008
    I can think of about a million things I could be doing rather than wasting 4 hours on a golf course (watching NASCAR ain't one of them either). To each his own but in my book golf is far from being a sport.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited June 2008
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    I can think of about a million things I could be doing rather than wasting 4 hours on a golf course (watching NASCAR ain't one of them either). To each his own but in my book golf is far from being a sport.

    You probably haven't played golf, then. I used to think the same way until I foolishly bought some clubs and tried to play it a few years ago. Since then, I acquired a completely new respect for the game. It's a lot more physical than it appears to be. Golfers get the same kind of injuries as other pro athletes who play football, basketball, or tennis.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited June 2008
    pearsall001 wrote:
    I can think of about a million things I could be doing rather than wasting 4 hours on a golf course .To each his own but in my book golf is far from being a sport.

    Golf is one of the top 2 or 3 activities I like to do. It is a sport. I would be willing to bet there is something you like/do that I think totally sucks. Ying-Yang-whatever. :rolleyes:
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,842
    edited June 2008
    I would much rather play golf than watch golf. Although when there is a foot of snow on the ground, the wind is howling and the clouds are dumping freezing rain on us, watching a nice, sunny golf course is nice.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited June 2008
    Playing golf is an odd mixture of exertion and relaxation. It's a great excuse to get outside, have a few beers, break a sweat but still feel relaxed (unless you take it too seriously).

    If you play it enough (I don't) watching it probably becomes more tolerable just because you "relate" more. I only watch the highlights (or sometimes parts because it just looks so damn nice in HD).
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,092
    edited June 2008
    Early B. wrote: »
    You probably haven't played golf, then. I used to think the same way until I foolishly bought some clubs and tried to play it a few years ago. Since then, I acquired a completely new respect for the game. It's a lot more physical than it appears to be. Golfers get the same kind of injuries as other pro athletes who play football, basketball, or tennis.

    Yes, I've swung many a club back in the day. I never said that the "game" of golf was easy, actually it's damn hard. And believe it or not, I wasn't half bad.

    But still it's nothing more than a game/activity (not a sport) that appeals to a lot of people. Great for getting out of yard work or whatever. My opinion still stands...plain "ole boring!

    Injuries do certainly happen to golfers...same as any body else.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited June 2008
    pearsall001 wrote:
    But still it's nothing more than a game/activity (not a sport) that appeals to a lot of people. Great for getting out of yard work or whatever.

    So you have now redefined what a "sport" is?

    The following is the definition from several different dictionaries...

    It certainly seems golf would fall under this definition.
    SPORT - NOUN:

    -Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.

    -A particular form of this activity.

    -An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.

    -An active pastime; recreation.
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    pearsall001 Posts: 5,092
    edited June 2008
    shack wrote: »
    So you have now redefined what a "sport" is?

    The following is the definition from several different dictionaries...

    It certainly seems golf would fall under this definition.

    I'll give you my definition in a minute...in the meantime read this article, it's even way over the top for me. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-hollander/is-golf-a-sport-seriously_b_100906.html

    This topic has been argued forever & a day. But let me put my spin on the meaning of a "sport"

    For me it must include a defense along with an offense. In other words I should have the opportunity to stop you dead in your tracks by my physical contact & mental moves. In golf there's not a damn thing I can do to stop you. Hell, they even make the crowd be quiet...shhhhh, shhhh he's getting ready to putt, shhhh let's not rattle him!! Cut me abreak. I say bring out the basketball fans with their towel waving as a guy gets ready for a free throw. Now that's pressure. Could you imagine Tiger or Phil confronted with that as they lined up to putt??? :eek:

    I'm just old school...break his leg, shove him, hit him, just try to hit my 100mph fastball. It goes both ways, now you get to hit me back.

    That's my take anyway. Golf can be a fun game in my book but never a sport. Unless I get to tackle the other guy as he's ready to tee off!! :D
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited June 2008
    I gotta tell you...I really don't care what YOU consider golf to be. By literally all published definitions of "SPORT"...golf is a sport. One may want to argue if a golfer is an athlete...but it is definitely a SPORT!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,213
    edited June 2008
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    I'll give you my definition in a minute...in the meantime read this article, it's even way over the top for me. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-hollander/is-golf-a-sport-seriously_b_100906.html

    This topic has been argued forever & a day. But let me put my spin on the meaning of a "sport"

    For me it must include a defense along with an offense. In other words I should have the opportunity to stop you dead in your tracks by my physical contact & mental moves. In golf there's not a damn thing I can do to stop you. Hell, they even make the crowd be quiet...shhhhh, shhhh he's getting ready to putt, shhhh let's not rattle him!! Cut me abreak. I say bring out the basketball fans with their towel waving as a guy gets ready for a free throw. Now that's pressure. Could you imagine Tiger or Phil confronted with that as they lined up to putt??? :eek:

    I'm just old school...break his leg, shove him, hit him, just try to hit my 100mph fastball. It goes both ways, now you get to hit me back.

    That's my take anyway. Golf can be a fun game in my book but never a sport. Unless I get to tackle the other guy as he's ready to tee off!! :D

    Golf, as in most individual sports, is an intensely mental game. There is more mental stamina required than most if not all team sports. The way to get back at your opponent is to consistently make better shots than him. That will rattle all but the most disciplined golfer. Tennis is the same way, extremely mental and you have to make better and better shots than your opponent in order to win and those shot making abilities (in all situations) does get into your opponents head.

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    heiney9 Posts: 25,213
    edited June 2008
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    Cut me abreak. I say bring out the basketball fans with their towel waving as a guy gets ready for a free throw. Now that's pressure. Could you imagine Tiger or Phil confronted with that as they lined up to putt??? :eek:

    I'm just old school...break his leg, shove him, hit him, just try to hit my 100mph fastball. It goes both ways, now you get to hit me back.

    That's my take anyway. Golf can be a fun game in my book but never a sport. Unless I get to tackle the other guy as he's ready to tee off!! :D

    I suppose bowling, billiards/pool, tennis, etc. aren't sports. All the sports you advocate with fan interaction have some distance between the fans and the players. I can't imagine trying to hit a golf ball with screaming people less then 5 feet away from me trying to make me miss. Some sports are fan interactive some aren't. Doesn't make them any less of a sport.

    H9
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,092
    edited June 2008
    shack wrote: »
    I gotta tell you...I really don't care what YOU consider golf to be. By literally all published definitions of "SPORT"...golf is a sport. One may want to argue if a golfer is an athlete...but it is definitely a SPORT!

    If you didn't care what my opinion was...why did you ask?? :rolleyes:

    According to your published definition...a spelling bee & a chili cook-off are also "SPORTS". Golf has good company.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited June 2008
    shack wrote: »
    I gotta tell you...I really don't care what YOU consider golf to be. By literally all published definitions of "SPORT"...golf is a sport. One may want to argue if a golfer is an athlete...but it is definitely a SPORT!
    Agreed...
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