Computer memory help

disneyjoe7
disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
edited July 2009 in The Clubhouse
Hello,

I was to upgrade my computer memory which is a desktop, how can I figure what memory to buy as in number of pins?

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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited June 2008
    Best way is to get the model number for your motherboard. Know what that is? Can you open up the case and find out?
  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited June 2008
    Chek out your computer manufacturers website, they will usually tell you what exactly is needed to upgrade. Amazon also has a "memory finder" option that will list the one needed for your type of computer.
  • demaples
    demaples Posts: 266
    edited June 2008
    Check this site out. I've used them several times.
    http://www.4allmemory.com/

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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited June 2008
    The truth I built this computer 4 years ago, but I work on a lot of computers so not 100% sure what's in it as the motherboard. Is that in on MB somewhere?

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  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited June 2008
    This is a nice little program that will tell you about your mainboard, CPU and memory: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited June 2008
    Shut the computer down and take back apart. Pull the memory module out and see what the label says.
  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited June 2008
    tcrossma wrote: »
    This is a nice little program that will tell you about your mainboard, CPU and memory: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

    Ding!

    Best bet right there.


    If you built the computer yourself though, wouldn't you kinda remember what you put in there?

    Also, memory isn't always labeled, especially if it's generic stuff. However, SDRAM and DDR ram look similar but they should have pins numbered at the corner SDRAM doesn't have more than 168 pins and should have a 168 at one of the corners. DDR has 184 pins and should be labeled similarly. DDR2 and newer versions of DDR aren't always labeled that way though.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited June 2008
    Well I knew it was a SLI board I remembered MSI, found MSI K8N SLI on the board. So DDR not the DDR2 chips.

    Any care to tell me why memory chips / cpu pins and everything else seems to change everyday.

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  • MKZ
    MKZ Posts: 1,068
    edited June 2008
  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited June 2008
    MKZ wrote: »
    http://www.crucial.com/

    scan your computer there.

    What MKZ said, been using Crucial for years and they've been spot on every time with their memory. No problems at all with what they've sent me.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited June 2008
    Ok more questions can I use a dual channel memory chips for a non dual channel computer?

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  • Roy Munson
    Roy Munson Posts: 886
    edited June 2008
    I'd recommend Crucial also.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited June 2008
    I just purchased a Crucial memory chip last week. They're great.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited June 2008
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Ok more questions can I use a dual channel memory chips for a non dual channel computer?

    Absolutely. There's really nothing different with them other than they're a matched pair...
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited June 2008
    Thanks all for being an older computer guy up to speed a little, its amassing just how fast things change in computers. Great info guys this thread has helped me immensely.

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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited June 2008
    Jstas wrote: »
    Ding!
    Best bet right there.
    If you built the computer yourself though, wouldn't you kinda remember what you put in there?

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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited June 2008
    So with some computer parts to update some computers around me. I had a chance to try this I put 4 simm memory slots 1g memory chips in my main computer. I did this to see if if 4g would be a nice update in the future for me. When I put 4g memory in the computer it would only see 3.25g not 4g, when I removed the first memory slot chips the computer would see 2g ok, so it see 2g 2x1g chips in 1&2 or 3&4 slots but not 4g 1,2,3, &4 slots. :confused:

    So if a computer can work with 4g of memory chips 4x1g does it see it all?

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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited June 2008
    All the 32-bit Windows versions will not recognize more than 3.25GB, so you could put 8GB in there if you wanted to, it would still show up as 3.25 (the maximum).

    If you went with a 64-bit version of windows (assuming you have a 64-bit processor) then you could get 4GB, though there are a lot of problems with that solution too (such as a lot of drivers and whatnot not written for XP64 or Vista 64).
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited June 2008
    Ok I understand it's a windows 32bit issue, but I remember that even the motherboard did see 4g either but something like 3.4g is this a bottleneck too?

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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited June 2008
    Try looking up the specs for your motherboard, see if they have a maximum. Shouldn't be too hard to find online.
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited July 2008
    MKZ wrote: »
    http://www.crucial.com/

    scan your computer there.




    Ok so I'm at my mother in laws house with same computer model which I use for also but this one is a spare computer. The computer scaned for 2g mem possible with was to remove the 256mb stick and install to 1g sticks. The compter will not see the 1g sticks why? If the scan software says a go the computer says no go.


    :mad:


    Now I stuck with 256mb mem. When I pulled a 256mb stick from mine, and replaced it with 2x 512mb. That works but now I'm 85 miles away and the 256mb is home, at least I could put 512mb in there. :rolleyes:

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  • MKZ
    MKZ Posts: 1,068
    edited July 2008
    Sorry to hear that. It looks like your computer accept up to 1GB and Crucial messed up. What kinda computer is that? My HP workstation, I have to add as a pair of Rambus RDRAM.
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited July 2008
    Bios update maybe? Have you checked for any firmware updates?

    What memory are you trying to put in and what is in there now?
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited July 2008
    The computers are used old corporate computers Disney Compaq Evo 510 the memory is 256mb the new is Corsair DDR3200 3-3-3-8 if that makes any difference. Thanks for the Bios update thing I could try that. :)

    I was up here to upgrade the monitor, memory, the software (many viruses and we decided to reformat and reinstall windows). I just redid the computer so I need to get some drivers to make it work as XP doesn't see everything on this computer model.

    Steve

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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited July 2008
    Small form factor or convertable mini-tower? What OS are you running?
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited July 2008
    Small form factor XP Home I think it's now a "System Builder"?

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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited July 2008
    when you install the memory, do you just get beep codes, or does it give another error?
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited July 2008
    Just beep codes, I couldn't even get into bios. Bios doesn't even see the 1m stick with a 256mb stick in either slot, but this was the only way I could get into bios / setup with the stick in the computer.

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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited July 2008
    Did it work with just the 1gb stick? (or a pair of them)
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    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited July 2008
    From Crucial...

    Q: How much memory can my computer handle?

    A: 2048MB.

    Adding the maximum amount of memory will improve performance and help extend the useful life of your system as you run increasingly demanding software applications in the future.

    Q: Do I have to install matching pairs?

    A: No.

    No, you can install modules one at a time, and you can mix different densities of modules in your computer. But if your computer supports dual-channel memory configurations, you should install in identical pairs (preferably in kits) for optimal performance.
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    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)