Tiger Amazing Again
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you can watch the tourney on usopen.com live tomorrow.
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audiobliss wrote: »Oh, he most definitely is! He's a great golf player, but he's waaaay over-hyped and has a bad attitude and a filthy mouth. I enjoy seeing him make some great shots (as he just about always does), but I really can't get into pulling for him.
AB, How long have you been watching golf? Tiger is the Michael Jordan of golf and will most likely be considered the best to ever pick up a club. Quit complaining and keep watching because someone like him probably won't come a long again in your lifetime.
Me personally I have always been a huge Jack Nicholas fan, still am, but Tiger is definitely in a league of his own and is simply one of the greatest athletes out there. Not over hyped, the real thing. I do agree that some of the media gets a little annoying, but that's not Tigers fault.
The only other athlete I can think of that has that iron will and the skill to perform beyond the rest of the field was Michael Jordan. I just recently re watched the playoff game against the Utah Jazz where Jordan had the flu and Tiger had the same iron will Jordan did in that game. Jordan's playoff game is one of the greatest sports moments I've seen.
Your younger AB, all I'm saying is take stuff like this in and enjoy it because you may never see someone like Tiger again in your lifetime.
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It should, at least I hope so, be a good playoff.Michael
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audiobliss wrote: »Oh, he most definitely is! He's a great golf player, but he's waaaay over-hyped and has a bad attitude and a filthy mouth. I enjoy seeing him make some great shots (as he just about always does), but I really can't get into pulling for him.
Almost everyone of the PGA pros have "filthy" mouths."SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
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avelanchefan wrote: »Tiger was not great today. He had a great finish but overall he was average (for tiger) at best. Rocco played the better golf game today. He was under more pressure, and he played the coarse at even par.
Oh and I swear if I ever go to a golf tourney an I hear that effing bozo next to me scream "get in the hole" on a 500+ yard par five, I will straight kick that guy in the nuts. Eff him and eff everyone else that screams that. It is now officially old! Effing jackoffs.
+100 I cant stand those idiot's. I went to the nationwide tour last weekend here in Raleigh and had to listen to a few of those people. I think that they do it so they can hear themselves on TV. I hope for a wild ball to hit them in the throat. -
If you write someone off for having a potty mouth, you might as well write off 98% of the population.
You know, I've never been a huge Tiger fan. I was always a Fred Couples kinda guy.....however, there has never been anyone that can play like Tiger. I'd even go as far to say that head to head, in thier primes, Tiger would be a fair shade better. Only because Tiger has a much better short game that Jack ever did and I think the courses today are much more demanding inside 150 yards. That's just me though.
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There are three main points brought up I'd like to address:Tiger is way over-hyped
Wow, are you serious? Did you even watch Friday or Saturday? He's clearly the best golfer in the world, how can someone at that level be 'over-hyped'. Maybe he get's too much media coverage in relatiion to the other guys, but over-hyped is a poor choice of words IMO.He has a bad attitude
Not at all. On the course he's obviously a very intense player, especially at a major, and from time to time I think his perfectionism gets the best of him, but that's about as far as I'd go with it. Of course that drive is also what makes him who he is, and the day we see him out there plodding from hole to hole laid back not really focused or caring what goes on is the day his game is going to slip to a lower level. Tiger tends to wear his emotions a bit more externally than most other golfers, but that goes both ways - you can see it when he gets pissed but you also see the great excitement like on 18 yesterday when he sank that birdie. I'd MUCH rather watch someone who's excited and emotionally invested, and is upset when they don't play well, than someone who's just like "Oh well, didn't play well today, maybe next week will be better"Tiger has a filthy mouth
What are you, like 12 years old? First, see the point above. Second, it's not like he's out there screaming obsenities at the top of his lungs, let's not blow that out of proportion. Yeah, you can pick up on plenty of 'fould' words if you watch or listen, but's it's not THAT bad, and you would catch that with basically every player out there, you just see it more with him because, well, you see more of him.
Is Tiger a good role model? In my opinion he is. He seems like a decent enough guy off the course, does alot of good thing with his money. He's intense on the course, but he's also a good sport. In my opinion he's a great competitor - really hard on himself and wanting to be perfect on every shot, and never gives up or gives in - but also gracious in defeat and doesn't throw a fit when he doesn't win.
If I were teaching someone how to compete, he's the model i would work from. I might teach them to do a little better job of hiding their frustration at times, but everyone's human. -
Oh, and Mickelson is a complete jackass. One thing I've heard over and over is that Mick is an ****, and I've seen it before a few times on TV. The general consensus is that Tiger is much more liked among the guys on tour than Mick.
He has millions of dollars, doesn't need the money, and yet when he's out there everytime he still has the emotion and excitement like he's trying to win his first tournament. How can you not like someone who loves his job that much. -
Polkmaniac wrote: »Oh, and Mickelson is a complete jackass. One thing I've heard over and over is that Mick is an ****, and I've seen it before a few times on TV. The general consensus is that Tiger is much more liked among the guys on tour than Mick.
Phil Mickelson is a complete jerk, and I am embarrassed that he went to school here in Arizona. He is known in my golfing circle as Mill Phuckelson. What idiot does not bring a driver? I understand why he did it, but your a professional man. You should know when to use the driver and when not to. And if you have to completely leave the driver at the hotel because you are afraid of using it in the wrong situation, then you have no self control as a golfer.
AND that is why Mill Phuckelson will never be great. He does the stupidest things at the most important times in his career. 2006 he busted out driver at the Open and hit it in the grandstands on the 17th or 18th hole? The commentators were literally screaming at him when he got the driver out of the bag. And then sat and watched in horror as he actually hit it, and screwed himself out of a major championship. -
Update: after 7 Woods is 1 under and Mediate is 1 over.
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tiger is up by 2, but is in bad shape on 10
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Tiger wins in sudden death....OMG, I'm exhausted just following this.
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Yes what a great US open. One that will be talked about for years. It's just to bad that Rocco could not win it.
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Watched it while at work. Boss was watching it to so I could get away with it. What a match.
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Effing fantastic, what an awesome tournament. My guy won, but I'd be posting the same thing had Rocco won, was just an awesome tournament.
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Watched it while at work. Boss was watching it to so I could get away with it. What a match.
I did too despite the recent request to not watch streaming video or audio. My supervisor actually came to my desk and watched with me for a little bit. Great competition and great match to watch. I thought it was also cool seeing Tiger holding his daughter out there right before accepting his trophy. Pretty cool dad moment for him considering he lost his father not too long ago.I know just enough to be dangerous, but don't tell my wife, she thinks I'm a genius.
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I'm not big on network TV as of late. The stupid stories they do and such. Always trying to create some type of controversy or some odd sappy moment. But I have to say that I gained a huge respect for the NBC crew this weekend. They were very professional on ESPN, and on NBC they just shined. What I loved most was the intense quiet before those huge putts. It was golf TV at its best, no stupid commentary, they let the viewer feel it.....just a remarkable job. Miller was huge. I have never been a fan of the guy, but he was spot on at every call.
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This one will go down as a great finish for sure. I just wish I had heard more about Rocco from Tiger and the media. After all, he only lost by 1 stroke over 91 holes. Great match.Michael
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Ditto, an awesome round. The GM came into my office and we watched for 45 minutes. I really didn't care who won. It would have been awesome either way.
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That is pretty amazing.Michael
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That is pretty amazing.
If there is no longer term damage, yes amazing. He should have done rehab and taken time off so he could compete the rest of the season. There is having an iron will and high threshold of pain, then there is just being stubborn and stupid. He's borderline here, but it's not my body or my choice to make for him.
Still an amazing gutsy performance and if he would have lost it would have made the announcement that much more even more telling."Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
I agree H9, probably not the smartest career move. He doesn't need the money, but is there now permanent damage as the result of the will to play. Time will tell.Michael
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It's nice to see someone come out and put on a gutsy performance - you don't see that as much as you used to, people are often too quick to sit out injured nowadays.
There's not going to be 'permanent damage' that he can't come back from. People come back from ACL injuries all the time, and those are just 'normal' people. You know someone like Tiger is going to have the drive and do whatever it takes to come back.
Maybe it wasn't the 'smartest' move, but people criticizing him for it is ridiculous. It would have been easy to do the smart thing and stay out, but how about having some balls and toughing it out from time to time. Granted in this instance it cost him the rest of the season, but I'd rather see someone go for it than sit it out. -
Polkmaniac wrote: »It's nice to see someone come out and put on a gutsy performance - you don't see that as much as you used to, people are often too quick to sit out injured nowadays.
There's not going to be 'permanent damage' that he can't come back from. People come back from ACL injuries all the time, and those are just 'normal' people. You know someone like Tiger is going to have the drive and do whatever it takes to come back.
Maybe it wasn't the 'smartest' move, but people criticizing him for it is ridiculous. It would have been easy to do the smart thing and stay out, but how about having some balls and toughing it out from time to time. Granted in this instance it cost him the rest of the season, but I'd rather see someone go for it than sit it out.
Because you have the inside track on his injury your sure it's not serious and he'll make a full recovery :rolleyes:. I don't know either, but I can tell you if he lost the Open there would be a hell of a lot more scrutiny as to why he came back so early.
Don't get me wrong I'm a huge Tiger fan; it just seems a wee bit short sighted to put your entire career in jeopardy for one major. As I said before I'm not him and he made the decision to play based on what his body was telling him.
I don't think it's ridiculous at all to discuss why and if he should have done it."Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Well, after 3 events it looks like he's back, another great round yesterday. Granted he had some help from O'Hair, but an excellent round of golf nonetheless.Because you have the inside track on his injury your sure it's not serious and he'll make a full recovery .
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Yep, yesterday just added to his legacy. I was glued to the TV set all day and part of the evening. I just KNEW he was going to make that putt..............just like you KNEW Micheal Jordan was going to beat you at the buzzer.
Great stuff.............glad I can be a part of it becuase once he's gone it may be awhile before we see another. Last guy that had me this interested in sports was MJ and I really have never gotten into professional basketball since he retired.
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Watching Tiger standing over a putt in that scenario is like watching Vinetari lining up a 50 yard field goal to clinch a win, you just KNOW it's going in.
Sure he doesn't make the putt 100% of the time, but you never know when he's going to make it happen and you can't count him out.
That's what makes it so interesting and so exciting.