Drill here. Drill Now. Pay less.

MacLeod

F the caribou!!! DRILL DRILL DRILL!!!

dave shepard

Yesterday I seen on the news we had asked other country leaders what they thought about the elections (as if we should give a fu*k what they think) Saudi Arabia was one of them asked (which my dad worked over there for 10yrs and the gas price was $.45 a gallon mabey cheeper I can't remember exactly) and they replied that they are concierned because they need our troops over there to help with the posing threats they have with other countries. Now WHAT THE FU*K... Bush went over there and asked for help with the price and they said "no if you want more buy more". Now if they need us over there for their benifet as they stated then there is our leverage to get the price down on oil/gas. Our officials need to look them straight in the eye and say here is the way things will be.... if you need us hear then we want the oil a hell of alot cheeper or we are now done assisting your country and will leave as fast as we came if not faster and they can also pay China back for all the money we had to barrow for this mess of a so called War.
I don't think we need to distroy the polar area just keep what we already produce and allow more offshore digging as our lovely EPA will not allow us to do but will not say a thing as China digs just off our coast.


My2cents

Dave

treitz3

miner wrote: »

I was personallly involved with getting Congress to allow offshore drilling in the Gulf offshore Florida. This was a 2 yr battle that unfortunately Florida won. We can not drill for oil within 100 miles of the coastline (and some case 125 miles). Yet, the state of Florida is one of the top 4 states for energy consumption. How's that for sate politics? I could go on forever but would bore you with statistics. BTW, the well we wanted to drill was 98 miles from the coastline.

I was falling in and out of sleep the other night and I heard something to the effect on a national news station that federal waters start at 200 miles offshore and that "someone" is trying to make drilling legal out there because of all the state's BS.

treitz3

BTW, where did that thread go about the Bakken oil reserves? I couldn't find it the other night after a long time of searching. It's got some links I put in that I researched for a couple of days to obtain that I would like to investigate further.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

F1nut

This one?

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66541&highlight=Bakken

obieone

I signed the petition! I'm sure it won't do squat, but I can atleast say I tried.....
Until they start issuing hunting permits for tree huggers:)

treitz3

Damnit, thank you. Yes. That's the one.

Joe08867

Done,

The Gulf of Mexico will look nice with a shiny film on the water!!!

Demiurge

Kris Siegel wrote: »

While it should help with the price of oil, keep in mind that when / if this moves forward we will see absolutely no benefits to it for at least 6 years.

It will affect the futures market immediately.

tonyb

Demiurge wrote: »

It will affect the futures market immediately.

Ding Ding....spot on Demi.Once they know we mean buisness,prices will drop like a hot potato.

miner

treitz3 wrote: »

I was falling in and out of sleep the other night and I heard something to the effect on a national news station that federal waters start at 200 miles offshore and that "someone" is trying to make drilling legal out there because of all the state's BS.

Ffed. waters start 9 miles from Florida's coastline. Youcan see about 12 miles offshore witht he human eye - due to curvature odf the earth. The HS&E requirements by the MMS are very strict which allow almost no chance of an enviromental disaster of epich porportions to hapeen in the Gulf. The reserves are there - have been found - but FL won't allow prodution.

amulford

f#ck Florida...

disneyjoe7

F#ck Jersey...


Why not.

Jstas

disneyjoe7 wrote: »

F#ck Jersey...


Why not.

I wouldn't mess with Jersey if I was you. Jersey is a scrapper, Jersey'll kick any other state's butt!

disneyjoe7

It's ok my wife from Jersey, I F#ck Jersey when ever I can

mrbigbluelight

Than I agree ! Let's f**k Jersey !!






.....uh......should I have not said that ?



I better pull over.

bobman1235

I wouldn't mess with Jersey either, you might get some on you.


(I keed).

doctor r

Petition signed!

disneyjoe7

Subject: Think about it...

The OPEC minister may look you in the eye and say,
'We are at war with you infidels and have been since
the embargo in the 1970s. You are so arrogant you
haven't even recognized it. You have more missiles,
bombs, and technology; so we are fighting with the
best weapon we have and extracting on a net basis
about $700 billion/year out of your economy. We will
destroy you! Death to the infidels!
While I am here I would like to thank you for the
following: Not developing your 250-300 year supply of oil
shale and tar sands. We know if you did this, it
would create thousands of jobs for U.S. citizens,
expand your engineering capabilities, and keep the
wealth in the U.S. instead of sending it to us to
finance our war against you infidels.

Thanks for limiting defense department purchases of
oil sands from your neighbors to the north. We love
it when you confuse your allies.

Thanks for over regulating every segment of your
economy and thus delaying, by decades, the
development of alternate fuel technologies.

Thanks for limiting drilling off your coasts, in
Alaska, and anywhere there is an insect, bird, fish, or
plant that might be inconvenienced. Better that your
people suffer. Glad to see our lobbying efforts have
been so effective.

Corn based Ethanol. Praise Allah for this sham
program! Perhaps you will destroy yourself from the
inside with these types of policies. This is a gift
from Allah, praise his name! We never would have
thought of this one! This is better than when you
pay your farmers NOT TO GROW FOOD. Have them use
more energy to create less energy, and
simultaneously drive up food prices.
Thank you U.S. Congress!

And finally, we appreciate you letting us fleece
you without end. You will be glad to know we have
been accumulating shares in your banks, real estate,
and publicly held companies. We also finance a good
portion of your debt and now manipulate your
markets, currency, and economies for our benefit.

THANK YOU AMERICA!'

demaples

Well Put!!!!

nspindel

I'm more a fan of biofuel from pond scum, it seems this shows a lot of potential. You can yield many more times the amount of fuel from an acre of land dedicated to algae production than you can get ethanol from an acre of corn. There's been a lot of hype about this lately.

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/story?id=47237

It also doesn't compete with the food supply like corn ethanol does.

Oh, and it just so happens that I have a pond.

petrym

Just saw this:

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obieone

Nuke the liberals. Problem solved.

madmax

I think we could use up our "300 year supply" in a short time. Instead of drilling we should find other alternatives to oil and tell the middle east to go f%$k themselves. Some day we may need that oil to survive as a country. If it turns out we can make oil out of ground up polar bears, carribu and liberals thats fine with me.
madmax

amulford

The man is dead on.

Admittedly it's stopgap, but it would be immediate. Combine it accelerated alternative development, and now your talkin'.

If we just tapped the methane we produce in all of our landfills it would have an impact.

Nuclear reactors can be built in five years, but it takes ten years to get the permits.

A new refinery would take about the same amount of time, given the newer skid process construction.

That's just to start...

madmax

amulford wrote: »

The man is dead on.

Just for the record, its dangerous to agree with me on political stuff, I'm out there. 3/4 republican, 1/3 democrat and mostly on the conservative side but with a heart.
madmax

sucks2beme

We were supposed to drive smarter and conserve. We did, for a couple of years.
Then we went nuts again. We need to make a real plan instead of that feel good crap.
If we had done that 25 years ago, we wouldn't be in the
fix we are in now. Maybe we could get the idiots to stop talking about
abortion and go to an issue we all have in common.
Nobody's got a plan that's real. That would take vision.
Drilling will take years to ramp up. But it would help.
We'd better plan for something on the 100 year scale right now. Hard core planning now,
or we are going to repeat this over and over.

MacLeod

madmax wrote: »

I think we could use up our "300 year supply" in a short time. Instead of drilling we should find other alternatives to oil and tell the middle east to go f%$k themselves. Some day we may need that oil to survive as a country. If it turns out we can make oil out of ground up polar bears, carribu and liberals thats fine with me.
madmax

We've got more oil than we could shake a stick at. 30 years in ANWR, just recently found 60 years worth in the Gulf and thats not counting the couple hundred years worth in oil shale. 80% of our oil reserves are off limits. We've got plenty. Theyve been saying for decades how we're running out of oil and itll be gone any day now but yet we keep finding 50 years worth of deposits left and right. Not using our oil reserves because "we may need it later" just isnt logical to quote Mr Spock. When oil was $20 a barrel, it was ok to leave it sitting in the ground, but when its $140 and climbing and gas is getting close to $5 a gallon and is threatening to shut down our economy, I cant think of a better time to use it especially considering that we've got more oil than we could use in several lifetimes!

Now I dont think anybody would argue that we dont need to look for alternative energy sources but I maintain that rather than screw ourselves by not using oil and trying to force another energy source is a bad idea. Look at ethanol. We ram rodded that down everybodys throat and now food prices have skyrocketted because we're using our food supply for gas!! Thats just insane! Leave alternative energy sources to science and the free market and I guarantee you something will come along eventually. But until that time comes, it is foolish to not make use of the super abundant and efficient energy source we have sitting right here at our fingertips in oil and nuclear power.

amulford

madmax wrote: »

Just for the record, its dangerous to agree with me on political stuff, I'm out there.
madmax

Not that I don't agree with the jist of you're point, I was talking about the guy in the video, ya wacko:p

madmax

The only thing that will force new options is a benificial cost comparison with present options. I see this whole "we got enough to last xx years" then we can worry about it the same as the guy who uses up his credit assuming he will be making more in years to come. It usually works out but if a problem crops up, he is screwed. Lets say the middle east people know we have 20 years to go. They will patiently wait until the appropriate time, cut us off then go for the gold. Until then they will allow us to fund them with every gallon whether it be $2 a gallon or $5 a gallon. Our usage of oil is insane and will continue to escalate as it has. There really is no perceived need to find alternatives right now and americans are not willing to give up anything until the supply ends. This may be our future undoing. Without the black fuel we are nothing.
madmax